"Roy" > wrote in message
...
On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
> As
> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>
> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
> lemon
> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
> the
> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>
> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
> so
> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
> there.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
> and
> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.

You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as you
describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.

I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
a thing and BUY one.

This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
===

No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put it
in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste is
composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>> As
>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>>
>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>> lemon
>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>> the
>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>
>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>> so
>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>> there.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>> and
>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>
>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as you
>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>
>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>a thing and BUY one.
>
>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>===
>
>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put it
>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste is
>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.

So problem solved then.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>>> As
>>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>>> don't
>>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot
>>> weather!
>>>
>>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>> lemon
>>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it.
>>> They're
>>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>>> the
>>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar
>>> crystals.
>>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>
>>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags,
>>> I
>>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>> so
>>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole
>>> in
>>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>>> and
>>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here
>>> will
>>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>
>>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as
>>you
>>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>>
>>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>>a thing and BUY one.
>>
>>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>>===
>>
>>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put
>>it
>>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste
>>is
>>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.
>
> So problem solved then.

Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
problems with fruit flies before but never this.

On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>
> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
> problems with fruit flies before but never this.

Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
it again.

Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
news
> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>
> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
> it again.

Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe respiratory
problems.
>
> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.

That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in. I
can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies and
quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with some
sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then that would
likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with bugs of all
kinds this year.

On 6/26/2015 5:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>
>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and
>> wash it again.
>
> Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe
> respiratory problems.
>>
>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>
> That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in.
> I can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies
> and quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with
> some sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then
> that would likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with
> bugs of all kinds this year.

Never heard of pesticides?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/26/2015 5:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have
>>>> had
>>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>>
>>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and
>>> wash it again.
>>
>> Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe
>> respiratory problems.
>>>
>>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>>
>> That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in.
>> I can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies
>> and quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with
>> some sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then
>> that would likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with
>> bugs of all kinds this year.
>
> Never heard of pesticides?

I suppose those are blatantly used where you live. Here, we try not to use
them. I do have to use them on occasion though.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>
>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
>> it again.
>
>Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe respiratory
>problems.
>>
>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>
>That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in. I
>can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies and
>quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with some
>sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then that would
>likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with bugs of all
>kinds this year.

You've been told how to solve the problem - but you don't want to
actually do it. You appear to be looking for a magical or supernatural
solution that requires little to no effort, and not one that will
actually result in effectively solving the problem.

And despite your protestations, NO reason you couldn't do what I
suggested. You can't find free newspaper, cardboard or dry leaves?
Really???

Washing the bin out (or whatever it is) is an exercise in futility if
you don't address the core problem.

So WTF is the point of this thread... attention-seeking trolling, as
per usual.

On 6/26/2015 7:49 PM, wrote:
> So WTF is the point of this thread... attention-seeking trolling, as
> per usual.


Which, if by any stretch true, you are oh so willing to provide, you
rabbit-killing hypocrite.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have
>>>> had
>>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>>
>>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
>>> it again.
>>
>>Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe
>>respiratory
>>problems.
>>>
>>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>>
>>That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in. I
>>can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies and
>>quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with some
>>sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then that
>>would
>>likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with bugs of all
>>kinds this year.
>
> You've been told how to solve the problem - but you don't want to
> actually do it. You appear to be looking for a magical or supernatural
> solution that requires little to no effort, and not one that will
> actually result in effectively solving the problem.

He told me to use bleach. But I can not do that. Two days worth of chest
pains is not worth it to me.
>
> And despite your protestations, NO reason you couldn't do what I
> suggested. You can't find free newspaper, cardboard or dry leaves?
> Really???

There very much is a reason. I did say that bleach causes me severe
respiratory problems.
>
> Washing the bin out (or whatever it is) is an exercise in futility if
> you don't address the core problem.

My husband?
>
> So WTF is the point of this thread... attention-seeking trolling, as
> per usual.

No. This was something new to me. And my friend who lives in a different
but nearby city said that she too is having this problem for the first time
ever.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jeßus" wrote:
> > So problem solved then.
>
> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
> problems with fruit flies before but never this.

So how often do they pick up your trash (bio-bin), Julie? You said you
are supposed to compost it but then you said you didn't have to do
that. ?

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>> > So problem solved then.
>>
>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>
> So how often do they pick up your trash (bio-bin), Julie? You said you
> are supposed to compost it but then you said you didn't have to do
> that. ?

The food waste is to be composted but we do not have to have our own compost
pile. If we do not have our own (and from the looks of it, no one does), we
are to put it in the green bin and it is picked up weekly.

This is not normally a problem but we are having freak hot weather and it's
only getting worse. Farmer's Almanac said it was to be cooler than usual
with a high of 67. It is 84 today and will be in, over or around the 90's
for the next 10 days. That is highly unusual for this area. If we do get
that kind of heat it is not usually until August, aside from a rare day here
and there.

I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that. I think it
is the heat that is causing things to ferment. We don't normally go through
fruit like we are now either.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:00:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
>freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that.

Free up some space in your freezer by using some of the food in there.
I believe you have said you have a lot of "frozen treats" that you
keep for your family. I'd start by not replenishing that stockpile.

I have a storage container that I keep in my freezer for
non-compostable food waste. It gets emptied into the trash every time
I'm going to put out a bag of garbage, then the storage container gets
washed out and put back in the freezer.

I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out, and
we generate *very* little trash other than cat litter. We either
compost or recycle everything, but you can't compost meat bones and
scraps around here because it attracts coyotes. By freezing my meat
scraps, I can get away with only putting out a bag of garbage once a
month.

Doris

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:00:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
>>freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that.
>
> Free up some space in your freezer by using some of the food in there.
> I believe you have said you have a lot of "frozen treats" that you
> keep for your family. I'd start by not replenishing that stockpile.

There isn't much food in there. There is a lot of ice. And I have the
frozen treats because it's very hot here. We need them.
>
> I have a storage container that I keep in my freezer for
> non-compostable food waste. It gets emptied into the trash every time
> I'm going to put out a bag of garbage, then the storage container gets
> washed out and put back in the freezer.

What is non-compostable food waste? Everything we have here is compostable
except for fat and I rarely ever have that.
>
> I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out, and
> we generate *very* little trash other than cat litter. We either
> compost or recycle everything, but you can't compost meat bones and
> scraps around here because it attracts coyotes. By freezing my meat
> scraps, I can get away with only putting out a bag of garbage once a
> month.

Bones and scraps are fine here. We do have coyotes. We generally have a
full can when my husband is home. We can't recycle lids and I often get
things like Styrofoam that I can't recycle.

On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 10:42:31 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:

> I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out,

That made me want to estimate how much I pay per bag. Not, you know,
to make you feel bad, but to get a feel for things.

We pay $17.02 per month (it's called out as a separate line item
on our water bill, but we don't have a choice about paying it).
We've been provided with a 95-gallon garbage can (on wheels) and
another that same size for recycling. They're picked up by a hydraulic
arm on the truck, but apparently if we have more than 95 gallons in
a single week, we can set bags next to the can and the driver will
get out and take care of it.

There's no requirement or incentive to compost or even to recycle.
We could put all of our recyclables into the garbage (and I'm sure
some people in our township do that). No penalty.

We typically generate three medium bags of trash per week, although
I'm going to round that up to four, because we often have a bag
or two from the workshop or garage.

So 17.02 / 4 = $4.26 per week, or about a buck a bag for us.

We generally fill the recycle bin about halfway up.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:42:22 -0400, Doris Night
> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:00:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
>>freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that.
>
>Free up some space in your freezer by using some of the food in there.
>I believe you have said you have a lot of "frozen treats" that you
>keep for your family. I'd start by not replenishing that stockpile.
>
>I have a storage container that I keep in my freezer for
>non-compostable food waste. It gets emptied into the trash every time
>I'm going to put out a bag of garbage, then the storage container gets
>washed out and put back in the freezer.
>
>I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out, and
>we generate *very* little trash other than cat litter. We either
>compost or recycle everything, but you can't compost meat bones and
>scraps around here because it attracts coyotes. By freezing my meat
>scraps, I can get away with only putting out a bag of garbage once a
>month.
>
>Doris

I toss all meat scraps outside, crows get them before I get back
inside... there are coyotes here too but they don't get a chance at
the meat scraps... the crows are way off in the distance atop the tall
spruce, watching for me to open the slider to my deck. In no time
there's a murder of crows picking up every bit and then they fly off
to gorge, crows are smart, they don't eat where they find food.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:56:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>>>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>>>> As
>>>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>>>> don't
>>>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>>>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot
>>>> weather!
>>>>
>>>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>>>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>>> lemon
>>>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it.
>>>> They're
>>>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>>>> the
>>>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar
>>>> crystals.
>>>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>>
>>>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags,
>>>> I
>>>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>>> so
>>>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole
>>>> in
>>>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>>>> and
>>>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here
>>>> will
>>>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>>
>>>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>>>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as
>>>you
>>>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>>>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>>>
>>>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>>>a thing and BUY one.
>>>
>>>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>>>===
>>>
>>>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put
>>>it
>>>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste
>>>is
>>>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.
>>
>> So problem solved then.
>
>Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>problems with fruit flies before but never this.

I was being sarcastic, obviously.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:56:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>>>>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>> As
>>>>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the
>>>>> yard
>>>>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot
>>>>> weather!
>>>>>
>>>>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>>>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>>>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices
>>>>> and
>>>>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>>>> lemon
>>>>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>>>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it.
>>>>> They're
>>>>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>>>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so
>>>>> that
>>>>> the
>>>>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar
>>>>> crystals.
>>>>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in
>>>>> Biobags,
>>>>> I
>>>>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a
>>>>> Biobag
>>>>> so
>>>>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole
>>>>> in
>>>>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin
>>>>> out
>>>>> and
>>>>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here
>>>>> will
>>>>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>>>
>>>>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>>>>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as
>>>>you
>>>>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>>>>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>>>>
>>>>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>>>>a thing and BUY one.
>>>>
>>>>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>>>>===
>>>>
>>>>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put
>>>>it
>>>>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste
>>>>is
>>>>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.
>>>
>>> So problem solved then.
>>
>>Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>>problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>
> I was being sarcastic, obviously.

Not obviously.