Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..

Not: Toom_er_ick

Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
so much.

"La Mirada" > wrote in message
...
> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>
> Not: Toom_er_ick
>
> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed so
> much.

I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me so much that I
mentioned it to someone who was complaining of something similar. She then
asked me how it should be pronounced because her whole family said it that
way. Who started that? And why?

On 6/5/2015 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "La Mirada" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>
>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>
>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>> so much.
>
> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me so much
> that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of something
> similar. She then asked me how it should be pronounced because her
> whole family said it that way. Who started that? And why?


Beats the heck out of me, perhaps folks just have a problem with
sequential consonants.

But it happens a lot, no question.

"La Mirada" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/5/2015 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "La Mirada" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>>
>>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>>
>>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>>> so much.
>>
>> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me so much
>> that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of something
>> similar. She then asked me how it should be pronounced because her
>> whole family said it that way. Who started that? And why?
>
>
> Beats the heck out of me, perhaps folks just have a problem with
> sequential consonants.
>
> But it happens a lot, no question.

Another two that I hear a lot are "fith" for fifth, and "ohways" for always.

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:21:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>
>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>
>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed so
>> much.
>
>I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me so much that I
>mentioned it to someone who was complaining of something similar. She then
>asked me how it should be pronounced because her whole family said it that
>way. Who started that? And why?

How do you think language has evolved over time?

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:21:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>>
>>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>>
>>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>>> so
>>> much.
>>
>>I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me so much that
>>I
>>mentioned it to someone who was complaining of something similar. She
>>then
>>asked me how it should be pronounced because her whole family said it that
>>way. Who started that? And why?
>
> How do you think language has evolved over time?

Not like that!

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:01:18 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:21:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>>>
>>>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>>>
>>>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>>>> so
>>>> much.
>>>
>>>I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me so much that
>>>I
>>>mentioned it to someone who was complaining of something similar. She
>>>then
>>>asked me how it should be pronounced because her whole family said it that
>>>way. Who started that? And why?
>>
>> How do you think language has evolved over time?
>
>Not like that!

Well, I think it partly did. I know I hear regional variations which
are sometimes explained in this way. Or maybe that's just an 'Ossy'
thing (the way Americans pronounce Aussie). Just joking...

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one
>> gets flubbed so much.
>
> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me
> so much that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of
> something similar. She then asked me how it should be
> pronounced because her whole family said it that way. Who
> started that? And why?

Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the word
and if they have remembering it properly. French cooking terms
are often mangled, more often I would say than German or Italian,
although there is no reason for it.

--

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice,
you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
Desmond Tutu

On 6/6/2015 9:58 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
>>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one
>>> gets flubbed so much.
>>
>> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me
>> so much that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of
>> something similar. She then asked me how it should be
>> pronounced because her whole family said it that way. Who
>> started that? And why?
>
> Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the word
> and if they have remembering it properly. French cooking terms
> are often mangled, more often I would say than German or Italian,
> although there is no reason for it.
>

Of course there is, haven't you figured it out yet as a Canuck -
Frenchies are loathed!

You've made an entire nation despise you with your relentless separatism
and french language Bullshit.

That whole Frenchy immersion thing in your schools was an imperialist
Napoleonic disaster.

Merde!

La Mirada > wrote in
:

>> Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the
>> word and if they have remembering it properly. French
>> cooking terms are often mangled, more often I would say than
>> German or Italian, although there is no reason for it.
>
> Of course there is, haven't you figured it out yet as a Canuck
> - Frenchies are loathed!
>
> You've made an entire nation despise you with your relentless
> separatism and french language Bullshit.
>
> That whole Frenchy immersion thing in your schools was an
> imperialist Napoleonic disaster.

**** you, asshole.

--

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice,
you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
Desmond Tutu

On 6/6/2015 10:56 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> La Mirada > wrote in
> :
>
>>> Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the
>>> word and if they have remembering it properly. French
>>> cooking terms are often mangled, more often I would say than
>>> German or Italian, although there is no reason for it.
>>
>> Of course there is, haven't you figured it out yet as a Canuck
>> - Frenchies are loathed!
>>
>> You've made an entire nation despise you with your relentless
>> separatism and french language Bullshit.
>>
>> That whole Frenchy immersion thing in your schools was an
>> imperialist Napoleonic disaster.
>
> **** you, asshole.
>

Oh, truth hurts, doesn't it?

http://www.societyforqualityeducatio...s/hammerly.pdf

The fact that French Immersion (FI) is a linguistic failure may be
the best-kept secret in Canadian education. But why shouldn’t it be a
failure? How can a single teacher, who may not even be a native speaker
of French, “immerse” 30 students?
It has been known since 1975 that there are serious problems with
FI. A 1976 article by Irène Spilka showed that the original St. Lambert
group — which FI advocates and “researchers” (basically the same people)
touted as “highly-successful” — was doing very poorly, with one or
more errors in nearly 53% of their simple sentences. Moreover, Spilka
found no significant progress in grammaticality from grade two to grade
six and a growing, rather than a decreasing, gap between FI students and
their Francophone peers.
In 1985, a group of students interviewed as they were completing
13 years in FI had an almost identical percentage (53.8%) of incorrect
sentences. And in the first five months of 1995, FI students who completed
my bilingual French Immersion Test did very poorly indeed — an
average of 4.42 errors per sentence and one error-free sentence (out of
50), plus use of the wrong gender with 6.46 out of 20 very common
nouns.
As I have been saying for 13 years, FI students graduate speaking
and writing rapidly in “Frenglish”, not French. Frenglish uses French
words but mostly English structures. Frenglish might be “cute” at age
six, but it is an embarrassment at age 20, as well as an impediment to
holding any significant bilingual job (it would be senseless for an employer
to put someone who speaks or writes so poorly in charge of the
telephone or correspondence). The FI/education establishment, however,
has kept these facts from the public. They have acknowledged that there
are serious problems with FI, but only in obscure research reports and
other such publications. In public, they continue to defend and promote
immersion nationally and internationally. A major scandal would have
exploded a long time ago if the establishment weren’t so successful in
holding a tight lid over the situation.
FI fails for many reasons, most of them related to “progressive”
(really regressive) educational views. Among the progressive trends that
have affected FI are the beliefs that everything should be as easy as
possible
for the students (not much effort, no drills or systematic practice);
that the correction of errors shouldn’t be stressed because it hurts
selfesteem;
that creativity (even with what one doesn’t control) is central to
learning; and that communication, however defective, is more important
Organization for Quality Education, September 1995, Page 2
than accuracy and mastery. Under such conditions, excellence is impossible,
dysfunctionality inevitable.
Thus, the learning of a second language in the classroom is done
in FI in the relaxed, unsystematic way in which very young children acquire
their mother tongue at home. But the learners and the learning
conditions are very different. Native language acquisition conditions
cannot be recreated years later, within four classroom walls, with older
children who already know a language, are more cognitively mature, and
are not surrounded by native speakers of the target language. The result
of this lack of fit is Frenglish.
FI is hopeless. It cannot be patched up because it is fundamentally
flawed, as it is based on incorrect assumptions. FI puts the communicative
cart before the linguistic control horse. Adding several hours a week
of grammar to FI —however that may be done — won’t help, for whatever
good it might do will be destroyed by the constant encouragement
of premature free communication the rest of the week.

On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 11:56:48 AM UTC-5, Michel Boucher wrote:
> La Mirada > wrote in
> :
>
> >> Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the
> >> word and if they have remembering it properly. French
> >> cooking terms are often mangled, more often I would say than
> >> German or Italian, although there is no reason for it.
> >
> > Of course there is, haven't you figured it out yet as a Canuck
> > - Frenchies are loathed!
> >
> > You've made an entire nation despise you with your relentless
> > separatism and french language Bullshit.
> >
> > That whole Frenchy immersion thing in your schools was an
> > imperialist Napoleonic disaster.
>
> **** you, asshole.
>
If Anglo Canadians actually detested Francophones, then they would be
happy to see Quebec succeed, and that is not the case.
>
> "If you are neutral in situations of injustice,
> you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
> Desmond Tutu


--Bryan

On 06/06/2015 9:58 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
>>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one
>>> gets flubbed so much.
>>
>> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me
>> so much that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of
>> something similar. She then asked me how it should be
>> pronounced because her whole family said it that way. Who
>> started that? And why?
>
> Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the word
> and if they have remembering it properly.

It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
Graham

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:38:46 -0600, graham > wrote:

> On 06/06/2015 9:58 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one
> >>> gets flubbed so much.
> >>
> >> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me
> >> so much that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of
> >> something similar. She then asked me how it should be
> >> pronounced because her whole family said it that way. Who
> >> started that? And why?
> >
> > Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the word
> > and if they have remembering it properly.
>
> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.

No it's not and it's not Hhherb, VIT-a-min, SHED-ual, al-loo-MIN-ee-um
or JAG-you-ar either.

--

sf

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:38:46 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 06/06/2015 9:58 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> > :
>> >
>> >>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one
>> >>> gets flubbed so much.
>> >>
>> >> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me
>> >> so much that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of
>> >> something similar. She then asked me how it should be
>> >> pronounced because her whole family said it that way. Who
>> >> started that? And why?
>> >
>> > Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the word
>> > and if they have remembering it properly.
>>
>> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
>
> No it's not and it's not Hhherb, VIT-a-min, SHED-ual, al-loo-MIN-ee-um
> or JAG-you-ar either.
>

how they get LEFT-tenant, I'll never know.

On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 7:18:53 AM UTC+10, sf wrote:
>
> al-loo-MIN-ee-um

Close enough if you live in the parts of world where it's spelled "aluminium". (My dictionary gives "al-yoo-MIN-ee-um" as the correct pronunciation, but "al-loo-MIN-ee-um" is local practice.)

"Aluminum" is the etymologically better spelling, but "aluminium" is the correct spelling for most of the world.

On 6/6/2015 3:18 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:38:46 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 06/06/2015 9:58 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one
>>>>> gets flubbed so much.
>>>>
>>>> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me
>>>> so much that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of
>>>> something similar. She then asked me how it should be
>>>> pronounced because her whole family said it that way. Who
>>>> started that? And why?
>>>
>>> Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the word
>>> and if they have remembering it properly.
>>
>> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
>
> No it's not and it's not Hhherb, VIT-a-min, SHED-ual, al-loo-MIN-ee-um
> or JAG-you-ar either.
>
Have you any "pass-ta"?

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:38:46 -0600, graham > wrote:

>It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.

Is that an eloquent, public speaking Labrador?

Jeßus > wrote in
:

>>It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
>
> Is that an eloquent, public speaking Labrador?

No, it's a rare bird...a working Conservative.

(In this case, the word Conservative (or Tory) refers to a
member of Parliament affiliated with the inappropriately
named Conservative Party of Canada [2003] aka CPC, but NOT
the Communist Party of Canada [1927]).

--

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice,
you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
Desmond Tutu

On 6/6/2015 2:38 PM, graham wrote:
> On 06/06/2015 9:58 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one
>>>> gets flubbed so much.
>>>
>>> I have been complaining of that lately. It was bothering me
>>> so much that I mentioned it to someone who was complaining of
>>> something similar. She then asked me how it should be
>>> pronounced because her whole family said it that way. Who
>>> started that? And why?
>>
>> Laziness. Most people cannot be bothered with reading the word
>> and if they have remembering it properly.
>
> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
> Graham


Not in the UK, that would be la-bore-a-tree.

On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:

> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.

Or, if you have someone named Igor in your employ "la BOR a tory"

Of course, many Americans (including me) pronounce Wednesday as
Wenzday.

Cindy Hamilton

On 07/06/2015 6:00 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>
>> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
>
> Or, if you have someone named Igor in your employ "la BOR a tory"
>
> Of course, many Americans (including me) pronounce Wednesday as
> Wenzday.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
and Febry?
Graham

--

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>Of course, many Americans (including me) pronounce Wednesday as
>Wenzday.

---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LtjzQaFZ3k

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>
> > It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
>
> Or, if you have someone named Igor in your employ "la BOR a tory"

I always say lab ra tory. never any confusion as what I'm referring to

>
> Of course, many Americans (including me) pronounce Wednesday as
> Wenzday.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I don't think anyone says Wed nes day. Or do they?

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 05:00:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> Of course, many Americans (including me) pronounce Wednesday as
> Wenzday.

Nachurly!

--

sf

graham > wrote in news:qTIcx.40115$eq4.5870
@fx15.iad:

> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.

And "inter-esting" not "inneresting".

--

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice,
you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
Desmond Tutu

"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
...
> graham > wrote in news:qTIcx.40115$eq4.5870
> @fx15.iad:
>
>> It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
>
> And "inter-esting" not "inneresting".
>


that's right, innit?

On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:38:10 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

> graham > wrote in news:qTIcx.40115$eq4.5870
> @fx15.iad:
>
> > It's "lab - or - at - ory" while we are at it.
>
> And "inter-esting" not "inneresting".

In-tris-ting

--

sf

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4, La Mirada wrote:
> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>
> Not: Toom_er_ick
>
> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
> so much.

I take turmeric caps.

On 6/5/2015 5:05 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4, La Mirada wrote:
>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>
>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>
>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>> so much.
>
> I take turmeric caps.
>

A wise supplemnt decision!

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4, La Mirada wrote:
>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>
>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>
>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>> so much.
>
> I take turmeric caps.

What ails you? How do you find their effectiveness?

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 5:27:07 PM UTC-4, La Mirada wrote:
>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>
>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>
>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>> so much.
>
> I take turmeric caps.


Me too.

On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:26:57 -0600, La Mirada > wrote:

>Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>
>Not: Toom_er_ick
>
>Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>so much.

I like this one better:

Pronounced: Mass_Ah_Chew_Setts

Not: Mass_ah_Two_Setts

Pronounced: Woos_Tah_Shire_Sauce

Not: Wor_Chester_Shire_Sauce

I am not a Massachusetts native but I was trained by one

William

On 6/5/2015 6:43 PM, William wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:26:57 -0600, La Mirada > wrote:
>
>> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>>
>> Not: Toom_er_ick
>>
>> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets flubbed
>> so much.
>
> I like this one better:
>
> Pronounced: Mass_Ah_Chew_Setts
>
> Not: Mass_ah_Two_Setts
>
> Pronounced: Woos_Tah_Shire_Sauce
>
> Not: Wor_Chester_Shire_Sauce
>
> I am not a Massachusetts native but I was trained by one
>
> William
>

+1

good one.

Qway=hog...

Or Q-hog?

On 6/5/15 5:26 PM, La Mirada wrote:
> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..

What's the difference in pronunciation between "er" and "ur"?

-- Larry

I speak English, Hillbilly and Elizabethan English.

On 6/6/2015 11:53 AM, wrote:
> I speak English, Hillbilly and Elizabethan English.
>
To whom?

La Mirada wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 6/6/2015 11:53 AM, wrote:
> > I speak English, Hillbilly and Elizabethan English.
> >
> To whom?

A variation of that is common along the Appalachian and Smokey
Mountains. You know. Thataways where both hither, yonders, and
widdershins are directions or distances depending on use.

I live widdershins of Pauls Gas station (this assumes you know the
direction the person was arriving from. IE: I am closer than Pauls Gas
Station). Unspoken due to use of word is closeby.

I am hither of Pauls Gas Station (I am a bit past it). Unspoken due to
word is close by it.

I am yonders of Pauls Gas Stations (I am in that general area but don't
know where you are arriving from so head to Paul's Gas station and ask
but i think a bit past it). Unspoken but assumed, fairly near it.

Yonder round is more deliberate and means 'I'm close to there' as in
'I'm yonder round Pauls Gas Station'.







--

On 6/6/2015 3:04 PM, cshenk wrote:
> La Mirada wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 6/6/2015 11:53 AM, wrote:
>>> I speak English, Hillbilly and Elizabethan English.
>>>
>> To whom?
>
> A variation of that is common along the Appalachian and Smokey
> Mountains. You know. Thataways where both hither, yonders, and
> widdershins are directions or distances depending on use.

Aha!
>
> I live widdershins of Pauls Gas station (this assumes you know the
> direction the person was arriving from. IE: I am closer than Pauls Gas
> Station). Unspoken due to use of word is closeby.
>
> I am hither of Pauls Gas Station (I am a bit past it). Unspoken due to
> word is close by it.
>
> I am yonders of Pauls Gas Stations (I am in that general area but don't
> know where you are arriving from so head to Paul's Gas station and ask
> but i think a bit past it). Unspoken but assumed, fairly near it.
>
> Yonder round is more deliberate and means 'I'm close to there' as in
> 'I'm yonder round Pauls Gas Station'.

Plenty of yondering to be found in the deep south as well.

Cheers!

La Mirada wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Pronounced : Ter_mur_ick..
>
> Not: Toom_er_ick
>
> Lots of mispronunciation out there, I wonder why this one gets
> flubbed so much.

It's an accent. They vary.

It's like I missed a spelling word in 7th grade as we moved to
Charlottesville. I even asked the teacher to repeat the sentence. 'I
drove my car up the root'. I was wondering why someone would do that
but she meant *route*.

--