On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:

> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>

Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
out the door? How hungry were you? When I go to Starbucks I order a
small. I am not going to start redefining relative sizes to suit their
marketing gimmick and order a tall coffee or grande, and the latter may
be used in a French speaking area though it would be pronounced grand
not granday.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
>> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>>
>
> Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
> you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
> out the door? How hungry were you?

the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago

I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you

On 2/11/2015 1:09 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
>>> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>>> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>>> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>>> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>>> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>>>
>>
>> Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
>> you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
>> out the door? How hungry were you?
>
> the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>
> I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>
When I first came to the US, in upper NY state, it used to amuse my
friends that I would not ask for apple pie "a la mode" and insisted on
saying "with ice cream". I never had any trouble from waiters about it.
On the other hand, I quickly found it necessary to pronounce "tomato"
American style if I really wanted some on a cafeteria hamburger.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> >
> >> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> >> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> >> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> >> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> >> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> >> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
> >>
> >
> > Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
> > you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
> > out the door? How hungry were you?
>
> the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>
> I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you

I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.

--Bryan

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >
>> >> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
>> >> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>> >> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>> >> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>> >> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>> >> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
>> > you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
>> > out the door? How hungry were you?
>>
>> the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>>
>> I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>
> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
>
> --Bryan

it is a nice place to visit ... if you're not Dave

On 2015-02-12 12:04 AM, tert in seattle wrote:

>>>> Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
>>>> you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
>>>> out the door? How hungry were you?
>>>
>>> the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>>>
>>> I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>>
>> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
>> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> it is a nice place to visit ... if you're not Dave
>

??? I was just wondering why you would put up with sass from the counter
person at a fast food joint.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:05:31 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> > >
> > >> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> > >> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> > >> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> > >> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> > >> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> > >> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
> > > you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
> > > out the door? How hungry were you?
> >
> > the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
> >
> > I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>
> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
>
I used to go to Chicago once a year as a kid and NEVER, until this
thread, have I ever associated White Castle with Chicago. They are
from somewhere back East. Where, I don't know - but not Chicago.
They're from further back East than that.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:05:31 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle
>> wrote:
>> > Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
>> > >> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>> > >> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>> > >> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>> > >> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>> > >> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you
>> > > until
>> > > you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you
>> > > walking
>> > > out the door? How hungry were you?
>> >
>> > the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>> >
>> > I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>>
>> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
>> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
>>
> I used to go to Chicago once a year as a kid and NEVER, until this
> thread, have I ever associated White Castle with Chicago. They are
> from somewhere back East. Where, I don't know - but not Chicago.
> They're from further back East than that.

Uh no. Wichita. And that's not East.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_C...8restaurant%29

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:48:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:05:31 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > > On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> >> > >> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> >> > >> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> >> > >> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> >> > >> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> >> > >> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you
> >> > > until
> >> > > you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you
> >> > > walking
> >> > > out the door? How hungry were you?
> >> >
> >> > the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
> >> >
> >> > I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
> >>
> >> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
> >> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
> >>
> > I used to go to Chicago once a year as a kid and NEVER, until this
> > thread, have I ever associated White Castle with Chicago. They are
> > from somewhere back East. Where, I don't know - but not Chicago.
> > They're from further back East than that.
>
> Uh no. Wichita. And that's not East.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_C...8restaurant%29

Seriously? Poor Kansas! I thought it was from some culinary capital
to the East, like New Jersey. It doesn't matter. It wasn't Chicago
and thanks be to god I'd never even heard of them before I discovered
rfc. Best of all, I have never eaten one - and I plan to keep it
that way.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:48:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:05:31 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> > > On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> I never went there much but there was this one time that I
>> >> > >> ordered
>> >> > >> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>> >> > >> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>> >> > >> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>> >> > >> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>> >> > >> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you
>> >> > > until
>> >> > > you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you
>> >> > > walking
>> >> > > out the door? How hungry were you?
>> >> >
>> >> > the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>> >> >
>> >> > I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>> >>
>> >> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things
>> >> about
>> >> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
>> >>
>> > I used to go to Chicago once a year as a kid and NEVER, until this
>> > thread, have I ever associated White Castle with Chicago. They are
>> > from somewhere back East. Where, I don't know - but not Chicago.
>> > They're from further back East than that.
>>
>> Uh no. Wichita. And that's not East.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_C...8restaurant%29
>
> Seriously? Poor Kansas! I thought it was from some culinary capital
> to the East, like New Jersey. It doesn't matter. It wasn't Chicago
> and thanks be to god I'd never even heard of them before I discovered
> rfc. Best of all, I have never eaten one - and I plan to keep it
> that way.

Weird thing is, I was born in Wichita and I don't even remember them. I
never even ate one until they became available here in the frozen food
section. I do remember seeing a lot of Sandy's. They apparently merged
with Hardees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy%27s

I don't remember eating there either though. We didn't get much fast food.
Just the A & W once in a while and if we went to Shakey's for pizza, my
parents got permission to bring in a McDonald's burger and fries for me.
The fact that I was willing to eat those things should give you an
indication of how bad that pizza really was. Actually I do think the fries
were good in those days. They were the only fries I would eat. But I had a
severe dislike for burgers.

We did get the loose meat (Nuway) once in a while. Mainly if we were at my
grandma's because my mom hated them. My grandma also took us to some place
that served fried chicken in a basket. I remember that causing a big family
fight. My dad hated eating food in a basket no matter what it was. It got
to where towards the end of his life, if we dined out, he would insist that
his food come on a plate and if they couldn't provide one, he would go
elsewhere.

I actually got some red baskets last summer. This after I got a lifetime
supply of red and white checkered papers to make lettuce wraps which nobody
will eat any more. I figured I could use them to line the baskets. But we
don't use them often. Not too many foods go well in a basket, IMO.

Mostly I remember dining at Spears. They were within walking distance of my
grandma's house and before she was put in a nursing home, she would walk
there for her meals. She quit cooking by then although she would heat up
canned chili in the microwave. They had very good food and they are still
in operation. I almost always got the roast beef dinner.

On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 1:07:16 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:48:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:05:31 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> > > On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> > >> > >> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> > >> > >> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> > >> > >> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> > >> > >> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> > >> > >> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you
> > >> > > until
> > >> > > you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you
> > >> > > walking
> > >> > > out the door? How hungry were you?
> > >> >
> > >> > the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
> > >> >
> > >> > I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
> > >>
> > >> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
> > >> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
> > >>
> > > I used to go to Chicago once a year as a kid and NEVER, until this
> > > thread, have I ever associated White Castle with Chicago. They are
> > > from somewhere back East. Where, I don't know - but not Chicago.
> > > They're from further back East than that.
> >
> > Uh no. Wichita. And that's not East.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_C...8restaurant%29
>
> Seriously? Poor Kansas! I thought it was from some culinary capital
> to the East, like New Jersey.
>
Your Sheldon imitation? Blowing out your ass about something you know
nothing about?

--Bryan

On 2015-02-12 1:39 AM, sf wrote:

> I used to go to Chicago once a year as a kid and NEVER, until this
> thread, have I ever associated White Castle with Chicago. They are
> from somewhere back East. Where, I don't know - but not Chicago.
> They're from further back East than that.
>


My father in law was born and raised in Chicago. My wife and son went
there for a few days last summer for a family funeral and loved it. No
White Castle experience. They did try deep dish pizza. My wife liked
it but our son did not.

On 2/12/2015 12:39 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:05:31 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
>>>>> sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
>>>>> late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
>>>>> them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
>>>>> I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
>>>>> order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
>>>> you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
>>>> out the door? How hungry were you?
>>>
>>> the power of the powerless is exercised ubiquitously in Chicago
>>>
>>> I would steer clear of that fine city if I were you
>>
>> I really like visiting Chicago. I see it as one of the nice things about
>> living in St. Louis. It's 5 hours from here, either by train or car.
>>
> I used to go to Chicago once a year as a kid and NEVER, until this
> thread, have I ever associated White Castle with Chicago. They are
> from somewhere back East. Where, I don't know - but not Chicago.
> They're from further back East than that.
>

My Chicago clients were the ones who told me about "sliders". They were
out in NJ visiting our facility at the time.

I used to fly to Chicago on the 6 AM shuttle from Newark, transact
business and fly home on the 6 PM flight. When I had to spend a few days
there, I'd stay at the Marriot downtown. They had special rooms for
traveling women. Loved the Chicago Chop House restaurant.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:18:06 -0600, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> Loved the Chicago Chop House restaurant.

My recollections are probably from longer ago than that. My Dad loved
a place called Est Est Est. He was a red meat eater - pork on
occasion, but didn't eat fish (unless we were fishing in Florida) or
"fowl".
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1...est/index.html

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 8:22:22 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-02-11 3:25 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
>
> > I never went there much but there was this one time that I ordered
> > sliders at a White Castle in Chicago (this would have been in the
> > late '80s) and the cashier told me "you are going to have to call
> > them by their correct name" which didn't make any sense to me --
> > I thought they were called sliders! She really would not take my
> > order until I called them hamburgers. TF?
> >
>
> Are you serious? A cashier at a fast food joint wouldn't serve you until
> you used the right name and she didn't see the back side of you walking
> out the door? How hungry were you?

There is no real substitute for White Castles. It's not just fast food.
It's an institution. If you're not a WC enthusiast, you wouldn't understand.

--Bryan

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:36:59 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

> If you're not a WC enthusiast, you wouldn't understand.

I'm not and I don't. They sound gross.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:37:08 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:36:59 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > wrote:
>
> > If you're not a WC enthusiast, you wouldn't understand.
>
> I'm not and I don't. They sound gross.
>
My wife agrees with you 100%. She won't even wait in the parking lot, in
the furthest away parking space while I eat there because that is too close.
They seem to be something that one can only acquire a taste for in childhood,
but some folks adore them. There is nothing particularly unwholesome about
them, just as there is nothing "gross" about cooked cabbage or Brussels
sprouts, but I find those repulsive. I don't think that *everyone should try
a White Castle*, but everyone should smell them and decide by smell. In all
likelihood, those who smell them will be turned off.

Another caution is the flatulence. Cooked onions in any form tend to produce
onion farts because the enzyme in the onion that makes the oligosaccharides
in onions digestible is denatured by heat, and somehow, re-hydrated onions
that are then cooked are especially obnoxious.
>
--Bryan