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Julie Bove[_2_] 10-09-2014 03:47 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
Note that I do not have the same waste removal people that Seattle proper
does. And while they are already supposed to compost, I saw on the news
last night that they are fixing to really crack down and implement fines for
not doing so. The fine for a home owner was a measly $1 which likely
wouldn't affect much but it would be $50 for a business owner.

As you can imagine, this could present a problem for places where the
customer is expected to get rid of their waste. Taco Time has been using
compostable things for a very long time, but not everything is. For some
reason, the spoons are not but the knives and forks are. And if you dine
in, many of their items (even though they are fast food) come on a platter
that is washed and reused.

They have what appears to be trash bins but are really for compostable
things. Then they have tiny trash cans for actual trash. I have one of
that size that I use for tiny things like the caps to my needles and my
clipped needles and such.

However, it is up to the customer to do the right thing and some won't.
This will force some employee at the business to sort through all waste.
And probably put locks on their dumpsters.

http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/

I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
to dispose of.


sf[_9_] 10-09-2014 06:02 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
>
> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
> to dispose of.


I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

Julie Bove[_2_] 10-09-2014 07:46 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
>>
>> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in
>> the
>> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
>> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
>> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work
>> on
>> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run
>> the
>> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
>> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive
>> PITA
>> to dispose of.

>
> I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.


We are not supposed to use the garbage disposal as they tell us it pollutes
the water. I'm not going to say that I don't use it once in a while but for
the most part I try not to.


Ed Pawlowski 10-09-2014 12:49 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/10/2014 6:18 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:02:47 -0700, sf > wrote:
>


>>
>> I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
>> bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
>> the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
>> garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.

>
> Where does the water go ? Does it get treated ?
>



Most places it goes tot he town sewage department where it gets treated.
There s a cost to that as part of your water bill too.

Composting is always preferred as it does not use water, chemicals, clog
pipes, add cost, etc. If you have a yard with lawn and garden, it is
nutrient rich so you don't have to buy fertilizer to get good results.

Dave Smith[_1_] 10-09-2014 01:16 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 2014-09-10 7:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Most places it goes tot he town sewage department where it gets treated.
> There s a cost to that as part of your water bill too.
>
> Composting is always preferred as it does not use water, chemicals, clog
> pipes, add cost, etc. If you have a yard with lawn and garden, it is
> nutrient rich so you don't have to buy fertilizer to get good results.




We have been recycling and composting here for years. We have a compost
pail on the kitchen counter and that gets emptied into the compost bin
in the bag yard or into the green bin. Bones go into the green bin.
Paper and cardboard go into the grey bin and plastics, styrofoam, glass
and metal go into the blue bin. The rest goes into a garbage bag. It
sure does cut down on what goes into the garbage and to the landfill site.


Nancy Young[_7_] 10-09-2014 02:19 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/10/2014 8:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-09-10 7:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


>> Composting is always preferred as it does not use water, chemicals, clog
>> pipes, add cost, etc. If you have a yard with lawn and garden, it is
>> nutrient rich so you don't have to buy fertilizer to get good results.



> We have been recycling and composting here for years. We have a compost
> pail on the kitchen counter and that gets emptied into the compost bin
> in the bag yard or into the green bin. Bones go into the green bin.
> Paper and cardboard go into the grey bin and plastics, styrofoam, glass
> and metal go into the blue bin. The rest goes into a garbage bag. It
> sure does cut down on what goes into the garbage and to the landfill site.


Recycling most of that has been mandatory where I live for years
now, but composting is left to the individual. Of course I have
a pile where kitchen and yard waste go.

Parts of NYC have a compost program, they pick it up. Now that's
a big project.

nancy

[email protected] 10-09-2014 03:26 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump run" every week. Paper, glass, plastics, etc. are tossed together and the rest gets thrown in a separate area. We have three compost bins in our yard (3 acres) and they provide some really nice soil additive. I keep a bowl on the counter for the daily scraps and it gets emptied outside every night. The garbage disposal only gets used for the little dregs left on the bottom of the sink after washing up.

Denise in NH

Kalmia 10-09-2014 03:35 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:26:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump run" every week.


So, how do they keep the lazies from just tossing stuff in the woods etc? Until ppl are forced to recycle thru a curbside system, some will never comply.

And what do the infirm, or carless ppl do? Pay extra for hauling?

I'd love to see mandatory recycling take effect everywhere, but I know it's a slow and expensive transition.






David E. Ross[_2_] 10-09-2014 03:47 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/9/2014 10:02 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
>>
>> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
>> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
>> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
>> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
>> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
>> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
>> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
>> to dispose of.

>
> I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.
>
>


Where I live, we have to separate our trash into three bins: recyclable,
compostable garden waste, and other. No, we are NOT to put kitchen
waste into the compostable bin, just garden waste; and that is the
largest bin. The county has a composting project from which the result
is available.

We do have and use a garbage disposer in our kitchen sink. All waste
water from the area -- straddling two counties -- goes to a water
reclamation plant. The processed liquid output -- filtered and
disinfected -- is sold for use on golf courses, parks, greenbelts, and
school playfields; the price is less than for potable water and allows
large landscaped areas to remain irrigated during a drought. The
processed solid output is "digested" (sort of a fermenting process) and
composted; it is available free to anyone who wants to get it. Note
that the reclaimed water contains too many minerals for use as drinking
water, and the compost is NOT approved for use on edibles.

My own compost is strictly garden waste, primarily autumn leaves. Thus
it is almost entirely leaf mold. I have the ornamental grass in back
mowed about once a year and add only some of the grass clippings. I
have my trees trimmed every third year and add a little of the wood chips.

--
David E. Ross

Visit "Cooking with David" at
<http://www.rossde.com/cooking/>

Cheri[_3_] 10-09-2014 04:01 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 

"David E. Ross" > wrote in message
...

> Where I live, we have to separate our trash into three bins: recyclable,
> compostable garden waste, and other. No, we are NOT to put kitchen
> waste into the compostable bin, just garden waste; and that is the
> largest bin. The county has a composting project from which the result
> is available.


We have three as well. One for garbage, one for recycles and one for yard
trimmings, leaves etc. We save all the compostables for the worms and flower
beds, and recycle everything that is possible to recycle, so we have very
little actual garbage for the bin. We requested the smallest bin a few
months ago, which is cheaper, and we still don't come near filling it.

Cheri


Nancy Young[_7_] 10-09-2014 04:06 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/10/2014 10:47 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

> We do have and use a garbage disposer in our kitchen sink. All waste
> water from the area -- straddling two counties -- goes to a water
> reclamation plant. The processed liquid output -- filtered and
> disinfected -- is sold for use on golf courses, parks, greenbelts, and
> school playfields;


Awesome.

> My own compost is strictly garden waste, primarily autumn leaves. Thus
> it is almost entirely leaf mold. I have the ornamental grass in back
> mowed about once a year and add only some of the grass clippings. I
> have my trees trimmed every third year and add a little of the wood chips.


I used to make my compost from leaves only (carbon) but now I
add the nitrogen with vegetable scraps/coffee grounds, etc.

nancy


sf[_9_] 10-09-2014 04:09 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:18:01 -0300, wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:02:47 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
> >>
> >> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
> >> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
> >> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
> >> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
> >> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
> >> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
> >> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
> >> to dispose of.

> >
> >I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> >bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> >the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> >garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.

>
> Where does the water go ? Does it get treated ?


Yes, there are two water treatment plants.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

[email protected] 10-09-2014 06:24 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't seem to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone caught doing it would be fined.

Denise in NH

Ed Pawlowski 10-09-2014 07:28 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/10/2014 10:35 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:26:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump run" every week.

>
> So, how do they keep the lazies from just tossing stuff in the woods etc? Until ppl are forced to recycle thru a curbside system, some will never comply.
>
> And what do the infirm, or carless ppl do? Pay extra for hauling?
>
> I'd love to see mandatory recycling take effect everywhere, but I know it's a slow and expensive transition.
>


In our town, it used to be a dump run or contract with a private hauler.
I was paying $5 a month 30 years ago.

The landfill closed and became an ash landfill so the town has a
contractor to pick up trash. We have a recycle bin (they take that
free) and buy $1 stickers to put on bags.

I take the trash to work and use the dumpster since we never fill it and
we pay a fixed rate for weekly pickup.


Malcom \Mal\ Reynolds 10-09-2014 07:51 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...-fines-to-enfo
> >> rce-curbside-compos/
> >>
> >> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in
> >> the
> >> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
> >> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
> >> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work
> >> on
> >> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run
> >> the
> >> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
> >> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive
> >> PITA
> >> to dispose of.

> >
> > I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> > bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> > the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> > garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.

>
> We are not supposed to use the garbage disposal as they tell us it pollutes
> the water. I'm not going to say that I don't use it once in a while but for
> the most part I try not to.


of course it pollutes the water, but the same pipes carry all the
bathroom turds and it doesn't pollute...you believe way too much idiocy

Dave Smith[_1_] 10-09-2014 09:55 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 2014-09-10 10:35 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:26:16 AM UTC-4,
> wrote:
>> Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump
>> run" every week.

>
> So, how do they keep the lazies from just tossing stuff in the woods
> etc? Until ppl are forced to recycle thru a curbside system, some
> will never comply.
>



A few years back they put a one bag per household limit on garbage and
you have to buy special tags for a buck apiece for excess. It didn't
take long before the low lifes started dumping them along the rural
roads around here. Someone tossed on into the ditch in front of our
house. Lucky for me it was a clear plastic bag and I saw the mail
envelopes inside and their address was in a couple of them. I was going
into town that night for something so I took their garbage and tossed it
back onto their lawn where it belong.




>


Julie Bove[_2_] 10-09-2014 11:37 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "David E. Ross" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Where I live, we have to separate our trash into three bins: recyclable,
>> compostable garden waste, and other. No, we are NOT to put kitchen
>> waste into the compostable bin, just garden waste; and that is the
>> largest bin. The county has a composting project from which the result
>> is available.

>
> We have three as well. One for garbage, one for recycles and one for yard
> trimmings, leaves etc. We save all the compostables for the worms and
> flower beds, and recycle everything that is possible to recycle, so we
> have very little actual garbage for the bin. We requested the smallest bin
> a few months ago, which is cheaper, and we still don't come near filling
> it.


We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins or
weekly pickup. Most people have weekly pickup now. Oddly enough they do
weekly yard waste pickup now but not recycling. Our trash can is slightly
smaller than the other two bins. I tried the small one which they said
would be big enough for two. Husband wasn't living here then. It wasn't
big enough. So I got the bigger one. I still have weeks when I have to use
an extra can. Such as if we have to get rid of a broken computer chair or
some such thing. Not all of the pieces will fit but seeing as how we no
longer have a van, the more of whatever it is that I can get out in the
trash, the better. I went with one of the trash people's cans after having
ours stolen, destroyed and found in the neighbor's yard. Brand new can too!
The trash people were on strike that week.


Ed Pawlowski 11-09-2014 02:45 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>



>
> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
> or weekly pickup.


Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
you one.


Doris Night 11-09-2014 03:08 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:45:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>

>
>
>>
>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>> or weekly pickup.

>
>Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
>you one.


Where I live, you can put out as much recycling as you want. We have
three bins, which is plenty.

The bins cost about $15 at Home Depot, and the ones we have are
stackable.

Doris

Julie Bove[_2_] 11-09-2014 05:28 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>

>
>
>>
>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>> or weekly pickup.

>
> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
> you one.


Yep. They told me if I needed another bin, I would have to purchase one. I
had been using a purchased, open topped one that was an emergency purchase
during that year that we had the two back to back snow storms. We went
without pickup for so long I lost track of it. Perhaps a month. I do not
want to pay $70+ for a wheeled recycle bin so I got a cheap lidded trash
can, spray painted it blue and added a large recycle decal. They told me
that the bin needed to be labeled and lidded. But we still have so much
that some weeks, both of those are out there, plus both of our tall, thin
ones plus a lot of boxes.


David E. Ross[_2_] 11-09-2014 05:29 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/10/2014 7:08 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:45:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>>> or weekly pickup.

>>
>> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
>> you one.

>
> Where I live, you can put out as much recycling as you want. We have
> three bins, which is plenty.
>
> The bins cost about $15 at Home Depot, and the ones we have are
> stackable.
>
> Doris
>


We have to use bins provided by the trash collecting company, and we
have to pay an additional fee for each bin.

--
David E. Ross

Visit "Cooking with David" at
<http://www.rossde.com/cooking/>

Julie Bove[_2_] 11-09-2014 05:34 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:45:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>>> or weekly pickup.

>>
>>Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
>>you one.

>
> Where I live, you can put out as much recycling as you want. We have
> three bins, which is plenty.
>
> The bins cost about $15 at Home Depot, and the ones we have are
> stackable.


A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what size our
bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal. If you go to this link then click
on the section for "extra recycling", you can see a picture of what our
provided bin looks like. We also have a little open topped bin that they
used at some time prior to us moving in here. It's rather a joke! Was
probably intended for newspapers as that's about all it would hold. We had
two of those on Cape Cod. One for paper and the other for cans and bottles.
Soda bottles and cans had to be taken to the package store...aka liquor
store. We got money for turning them in. So... The small bin was enough
for me there, particularly when we had weekly pickup. But we drink a lot of
bottled and canned drinks so the bin gets full very quickly.

http://wmnorthwest.com/bothell/recycling.html


sf[_9_] 11-09-2014 07:14 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:34:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what size our
> bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal.


I'm flabbergasted that you produce that much recycling!


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

jmcquown[_2_] 11-09-2014 07:32 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/11/2014 2:14 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:34:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what size our
>> bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal.

>
> I'm flabbergasted that you produce that much recycling!
>
>

She throws a lot of stuff away.

OB Food: Had seared medallions of lamb with mashed potatoes and steamed
broccoi for dinner.

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 11-09-2014 07:35 AM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On 9/10/2014 1:24 PM, wrote:
> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't seem to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone caught doing it would be fined.
>
> Denise in NH
>

I have to hire my own trash pickup service. Even when I lived in
apartments when I lived in TN, I paid for it. It was added onto my rent.

Jill

Julie Bove[_2_] 11-09-2014 01:37 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 

"David E. Ross" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/10/2014 7:08 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:45:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>>>> or weekly pickup.
>>>
>>> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
>>> you one.

>>
>> Where I live, you can put out as much recycling as you want. We have
>> three bins, which is plenty.
>>
>> The bins cost about $15 at Home Depot, and the ones we have are
>> stackable.
>>
>> Doris
>>

>
> We have to use bins provided by the trash collecting company, and we
> have to pay an additional fee for each bin.


I just ordered another large bin. Found one on Amazon for around $60. I'm
sure it will work a lot better than what I've been using.


Julie Bove[_2_] 11-09-2014 01:40 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:34:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what size
>> our
>> bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal.

>
> I'm flabbergasted that you produce that much recycling!


Why? They only collect every two weeks. We usually eat at least one can of
food per day. If I am home for most of the day, I drink at least 12 cans of
soda. Husband and daughter drink less. Add in bottled water, tea, etc.
Then there are boxes, packing for the boxes and tons of junk mail. Every
time I empty my mailbox, most to all of it goes right in the bin.


Doris Night 11-09-2014 01:40 PM

Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:34:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:45:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>>>> or weekly pickup.
>>>
>>>Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
>>>you one.

>>
>> Where I live, you can put out as much recycling as you want. We have
>> three bins, which is plenty.
>>
>> The bins cost about $15 at Home Depot, and the ones we have are
>> stackable.

>
>A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what size our
>bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal. If you go to this link then click
>on the section for "extra recycling", you can see a picture of what our
>provided bin looks like. We also have a little open topped bin that they
>used at some time prior to us moving in here. It's rather a joke! Was
>probably intended for newspapers as that's about all it would hold. We had
>two of those on Cape Cod. One for paper and the other for cans and bottles.
>Soda bottles and cans had to be taken to the package store...aka liquor
>store. We got money for turning them in. So... The small bin was enough
>for me there, particularly when we had weekly pickup. But we drink a lot of
>bottled and canned drinks so the bin gets full very quickly.
>
>http://wmnorthwest.com/bothell/recycling.html


I guess you need to get a can crusher.

Doris

Julie Bove[_2_] 11-09-2014 01:42 PM

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/11/2014 2:14 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:34:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what size
>>> our
>>> bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal.

>>
>> I'm flabbergasted that you produce that much recycling!
>>
>>

> She throws a lot of stuff away.


Uh... I don't throw away recycling. I recycle it!
>
> OB Food: Had seared medallions of lamb with mashed potatoes and steamed
> broccoi for dinner.


I had turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes and peas. Husband had chicken and
spinach sausage and some spinach lasagna with no red sauce. Daughter had
carrots, olives and 1/2 of a grilled cheese sandwich.


Julie Bove[_2_] 11-09-2014 01:43 PM

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/10/2014 1:24 PM, wrote:
>> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are
>> infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't seem
>> to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone caught
>> doing it would be fined.
>>
>> Denise in NH
>>

> I have to hire my own trash pickup service. Even when I lived in
> apartments when I lived in TN, I paid for it. It was added onto my rent.



Wow! Here if you live in an apartment, there is one or more big dumpsters
for you to use for free.


jmcquown[_2_] 11-09-2014 02:08 PM

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On 9/11/2014 8:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/10/2014 1:24 PM, wrote:
>>> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are
>>> infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't
>>> seem to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone
>>> caught doing it would be fined.
>>>
>>> Denise in NH
>>>

>> I have to hire my own trash pickup service. Even when I lived in
>> apartments when I lived in TN, I paid for it. It was added onto my rent.

>
>
> Wow! Here if you live in an apartment, there is one or more big
> dumpsters for you to use for free.


Guess I lived in higher rent districts. ;) Most of the apartments I
rented provided one big rolling trash can each for the individual units.
The one before the last, I did have to walk downstairs and to the side
of the building to put things in my bin. The last apartment, where I
lived 12 years, had an enclosed gated spot off the fenced patio where
the bin sat. The trash collection people would just walk up and roll it
to the truck to empty it. It was curbside service. I don't recall
having had to use a big dumpster in an apartment complex since the
mid-1980's.

Jill

Cheri[_3_] 11-09-2014 02:20 PM

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/10/2014 1:24 PM, wrote:
>>> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are
>>> infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't seem
>>> to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone caught
>>> doing it would be fined.
>>>
>>> Denise in NH
>>>

>> I have to hire my own trash pickup service. Even when I lived in
>> apartments when I lived in TN, I paid for it. It was added onto my rent.

>
>
> Wow! Here if you live in an apartment, there is one or more big dumpsters
> for you to use for free.


I'm sure it was factored into the rent or it is listed somewhere on the
utility bill. Nothing like that is *free.*

Cheri


jmcquown[_2_] 11-09-2014 02:44 PM

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On 9/11/2014 9:20 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/10/2014 1:24 PM, wrote:
>>>> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are
>>>> infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't
>>>> seem to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone
>>>> caught doing it would be fined.
>>>>
>>>> Denise in NH
>>>>
>>> I have to hire my own trash pickup service. Even when I lived in
>>> apartments when I lived in TN, I paid for it. It was added onto my
>>> rent.

>>
>>
>> Wow! Here if you live in an apartment, there is one or more big
>> dumpsters for you to use for free.

>
> I'm sure it was factored into the rent or it is listed somewhere on the
> utility bill. Nothing like that is *free.*
>
> Cheri
>

Yeppers. The dumpsters were for everyone in the complex to use. The
trash pickup was not "free".

Jill

Nancy Young[_7_] 11-09-2014 02:45 PM

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On 9/10/2014 9:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:


>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>> or weekly pickup.

>
> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
> you one.


We have to buy our own bins, which suits me. I have a couple
of Rubbermaid Brutes I can switch off if one gets full.

A couple of years ago, my town switched to picking up every
recyclable twice a month. Whoever arranged that deserves a
bonus. Before that they picked up newspapers/cardboard/mixed
paper once a month and cans/bottles a different day, once a
month. You always had a collection of crap piling up somewhere.

Of course, I could drive stuff over to the yard and drop it
off myself, which I often did. It's pretty far as I live in a
large town. Unless I had business in the area, hard to justify
burning gas in the name of recycling.

nancy


jmcquown[_2_] 11-09-2014 03:17 PM

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On 9/11/2014 8:42 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/11/2014 2:14 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:34:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what
>>>> size our
>>>> bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal.
>>>
>>> I'm flabbergasted that you produce that much recycling!
>>>
>>>

>> She throws a lot of stuff away.

>
> Uh... I don't throw away recycling. I recycle it!
>>

You're lucky you live in an area that provides recycling pickup as an
option. For some stupid reason the residents of Dataw protested loudly
when the [only available] trash pickup service wanted to institute
recycling. I don't know why; I guess they didn't want to have to sort
things and buy more bins.

I *could* collect these items and drive stuff to the so-called recycle
center (I call it a dump). However, I don't use enough cans, plastic
bottles, or paper to make it worthwhile in terms of gas mileage.

>> OB Food: Had seared medallions of lamb with mashed potatoes and
>> steamed broccoli for dinner.

>
> I had turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes and peas. Husband had chicken and
> spinach sausage and some spinach lasagna with no red sauce. Daughter
> had carrots, olives and 1/2 of a grilled cheese sandwich.


Woo hoo! Three different meals. Does anyone in your house ever sit
down and eat the same thing for dinner? Don't answer; that was a
rhetorical question.

Jill

Janet Bostwick 11-09-2014 03:19 PM

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 05:40:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
snip
> If I am home for most of the day, I drink at least 12 cans of
>soda. Husband and daughter drink less.

snip
What did you really mean to type?
Janet US

jinx the minx 11-09-2014 04:13 PM

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jmcquown > wrote:
> On 9/11/2014 8:42 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/11/2014 2:14 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:34:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know what
>>>>> size our
>>>>> bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal.
>>>>
>>>> I'm flabbergasted that you produce that much recycling!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> She throws a lot of stuff away.

>>
>> Uh... I don't throw away recycling. I recycle it!
>>>

> You're lucky you live in an area that provides recycling pickup as an
> option. For some stupid reason the residents of Dataw protested loudly
> when the [only available] trash pickup service wanted to institute
> recycling. I don't know why; I guess they didn't want to have to sort
> things and buy more bins.
>
> I *could* collect these items and drive stuff to the so-called recycle
> center (I call it a dump). However, I don't use enough cans, plastic
> bottles, or paper to make it worthwhile in terms of gas mileage.
>
>>> OB Food: Had seared medallions of lamb with mashed potatoes and
>>> steamed broccoli for dinner.

>>
>> I had turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes and peas. Husband had chicken and
>> spinach sausage and some spinach lasagna with no red sauce. Daughter
>> had carrots, olives and 1/2 of a grilled cheese sandwich.

>
> Woo hoo! Three different meals. Does anyone in your house ever sit down
> and eat the same thing for dinner? Don't answer; that was a rhetorical question.
>
> Jill


I can't even imagine the time and labor it takes to cook three different
meals each and every night!
--
jinx the minx

brooklyn1 11-09-2014 04:22 PM

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On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:45:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>> or weekly pickup.

>
>Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
>you one.


Our trash company supplies cans in three sizes, small, medium, and
large. I have one small for trash, one small for recyclables... I
have very little trash and I collapse all recyclables. The large cans
are humongous, I swear they can garage a VW bug. If I requested the
large for recyclables I could save myself from collapsing cartons and
stomping cans but the monster sized thing is so huge it won't fit in
my garage unless I parked my car outside... and I don't want to have
to go outside to toss trash plus if the cans are outdoors the critters
will strew everything about where the wind will take it everywhere. At
the bottom of this page you can see the three different sized trash
cans:
http://www.county-waste.com/residential

brooklyn1 11-09-2014 04:29 PM

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 05:37:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"David E. Ross" > wrote in message
...
>> On 9/10/2014 7:08 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:45:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
>>>>> or weekly pickup.
>>>>
>>>> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
>>>> you one.
>>>
>>> Where I live, you can put out as much recycling as you want. We have
>>> three bins, which is plenty.
>>>
>>> The bins cost about $15 at Home Depot, and the ones we have are
>>> stackable.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>>

>>
>> We have to use bins provided by the trash collecting company, and we
>> have to pay an additional fee for each bin.

>
>I just ordered another large bin. Found one on Amazon for around $60. I'm
>sure it will work a lot better than what I've been using.


We need to use the ones supplied by the trash company, they are made
so their trucks can pick them up, dump, and put them back down, all
without the driver leaving the cab... they will supply extras at no
charge but then where to store them all... but they solved the problem
for those who generate a lot of trash by having three different size
cans.

Dave Smith[_1_] 11-09-2014 04:31 PM

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On 2014-09-11 11:13 AM, jinx the minx wrote:

>> Woo hoo! Three different meals. Does anyone in your house ever sit down
>> and eat the same thing for dinner? Don't answer; that was a rhetorical question.
>>
>> Jill

>
> I can't even imagine the time and labor it takes to cook three different
> meals each and every night!
>



Not only does she have time to shop for, prepare and clean up for all
those meals, but she can still spend all day posting on use net.


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