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"Cheri" > wrote in message ... > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... > >> 12" she had posted earlier. You are not doing yourself any favours by >> defending her because she has some serious issues, one of them being her >> compulsion to embellish the truth to feed her compulsive posting. > > You are not doing YOURSELF any favor by dogging a person if you feel she > has serious issues. What does that really say about you? Exactly the same point I made to someone else in the past. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "Cheri" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> 12" she had posted earlier. You are not doing yourself any favours by >>> defending her because she has some serious issues, one of them being her >>> compulsion to embellish the truth to feed her compulsive posting. >> >> You are not doing YOURSELF any favor by dogging a person if you feel she >> has serious issues. What does that really say about you? > > Exactly the same point I made to someone else in the past. It just never ends. |
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Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Ophelia" wrote: > > > > "Cheri" wrote: > >> You are not doing YOURSELF any favor by dogging a person if you feel she > >> has serious issues. What does that really say about you? > > > > Exactly the same point I made to someone else in the past. > > It just never ends. heheh You *do* attract attention here. You do seem to have way more than your fair share of "issues" but it's no joking matter. If it's real to you, it's real regardless of what anyone else thinks. Try no to get mad at people offering advice though. I think that's just a natural protective instinct. As my daughter got older and told me about some of her problems, I made the mistake of offering advice. I've learned that sometimes someone just needs to vent their problems and don't want advice...they just want a friendly ear (or two) to listen. Remember that yourself someday when your daughter is an adult. I meant to thank you too for reposting the White Castle casserole recipe the other day. Sounds like something I'll try with maybe a couple of changes. (The optional pickle addition sounds weird to me). I still wonder why it's named that. Seems to have nothing to do with White Castle hamburgers. One day about 30 years ago, we were working in Norfolk (the next city to me) and we went to a WC place for some of their famous hamburgers. I was the only one that had never heard of them. They had a deal for so much money for 5 of the burgers. Well....I certainly didn't want 5 hamburgers for lunch so I only bought 2 of them. I was shocked when I saw how small they were. "WTH? Really?" heheh G. |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Ophelia" wrote: >> > >> > "Cheri" wrote: >> >> You are not doing YOURSELF any favor by dogging a person if you feel >> >> she >> >> has serious issues. What does that really say about you? >> > >> > Exactly the same point I made to someone else in the past. >> >> It just never ends. > > heheh You *do* attract attention here. You do seem to have way more > than your fair share of "issues" but it's no joking matter. If it's > real to you, it's real regardless of what anyone else thinks. Try no > to get mad at people offering advice though. I think that's just a > natural protective instinct. As my daughter got older and told me > about some of her problems, I made the mistake of offering advice. > I've learned that sometimes someone just needs to vent their problems > and don't want advice...they just want a friendly ear (or two) to > listen. Remember that yourself someday when your daughter is an > adult. > > I meant to thank you too for reposting the White Castle casserole > recipe the other day. Sounds like something I'll try with maybe a > couple of changes. (The optional pickle addition sounds weird to me). > I still wonder why it's named that. Seems to have nothing to do with > White Castle hamburgers. > > One day about 30 years ago, we were working in Norfolk (the next city > to me) and we went to a WC place for some of their famous hamburgers. > I was the only one that had never heard of them. They had a deal for > so much money for 5 of the burgers. Well....I certainly didn't want 5 > hamburgers for lunch so I only bought 2 of them. I was shocked when I > saw how small they were. "WTH? Really?" heheh Nice post, Gary. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2014-09-12 5:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > > > > > I already know that they don't. If they did, I would have seen it. > > That's why I asked her. And I know enough not to waste my time calling > > stores. You also don't see me bitching here but I sure see you and some > > others doing it. And about me no less! > > Don't you realize that it is only because you give us so much ammunition? Yeah. LOL! No ammunition shortage in that part of the US. ;) |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Ophelia" wrote: >> > >> > "Cheri" wrote: >> >> You are not doing YOURSELF any favor by dogging a person if you feel >> >> she >> >> has serious issues. What does that really say about you? >> > >> > Exactly the same point I made to someone else in the past. >> >> It just never ends. > > heheh You *do* attract attention here. You do seem to have way more > than your fair share of "issues" but it's no joking matter. If it's > real to you, it's real regardless of what anyone else thinks. Try no > to get mad at people offering advice though. I think that's just a > natural protective instinct. As my daughter got older and told me > about some of her problems, I made the mistake of offering advice. > I've learned that sometimes someone just needs to vent their problems > and don't want advice...they just want a friendly ear (or two) to > listen. Remember that yourself someday when your daughter is an > adult. > > I meant to thank you too for reposting the White Castle casserole > recipe the other day. Sounds like something I'll try with maybe a > couple of changes. (The optional pickle addition sounds weird to me). > I still wonder why it's named that. Seems to have nothing to do with > White Castle hamburgers. > > One day about 30 years ago, we were working in Norfolk (the next city > to me) and we went to a WC place for some of their famous hamburgers. > I was the only one that had never heard of them. They had a deal for > so much money for 5 of the burgers. Well....I certainly didn't want 5 > hamburgers for lunch so I only bought 2 of them. I was shocked when I > saw how small they were. "WTH? Really?" heheh > > G. I just don't get the giving advice thing. That is just never my first instinct, although sometimes people will ask me for advice. That's different. I don't know why that recipe is called White Castle either but it's all over the Internet. My mom tells me that I did have White Castles once or twice as a child. I don't remember them. I did not like burgers as a child and apparently in particular, not those. So I don't remember if they came with pickles or not. And now I don't really like the frozen ones since somebody here said they tasted like liver. I hadn't thought that prior but now I do. :( |
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"JohnJohn" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >>On 2014-09-12 5:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >> >>> I already know that they don't. If they did, I would have seen it. >>> That's why I asked her. And I know enough not to waste my time calling >>> stores. You also don't see me bitching here but I sure see you and some >>> others doing it. And about me no less! >> >> >>Don't you realize that it is only because you give us so much ammunition? > > Nobody forces you to pull the trigger. Or am I missing another > Canadian habit here? "Have ammo, must shoot." Agree. Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you have to or even should. |
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"JohnJohn" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >>On 2014-09-12 5:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >> >>> I already know that they don't. If they did, I would have seen it. >>> That's why I asked her. And I know enough not to waste my time calling >>> stores. You also don't see me bitching here but I sure see you and some >>> others doing it. And about me no less! >> >> >>Don't you realize that it is only because you give us so much ammunition? > > Nobody forces you to pull the trigger. Or am I missing another > Canadian habit here? "Have ammo, must shoot." Sad lives. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:42:16 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:34:24 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> "sf" > wrote in message > >> ... > >> > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:08:50 -0600, Mayo > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > Aluminum soda cans > >> >> > don't get flattened here, there's a 5¢ deposit on those. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Oh good grief! > >> >> > >> >> So the darned state has their hand out for cans?!?! > >> > > >> > Some areas specify to flatten, this one does not - so it's optional. > >> > http://your.kingcounty.gov/solidwast...uick-guide.asp > >> > Remember, she needs things spelled out in black and white... there is > >> > no gray. > >> > >> As I have said countless times before, I do not live in King county so I > >> don't really care what they do. MA would not take back flattened cans. > >> Apparently they had machines that did that. > > > > Why are you talking about Massachusetts when you live in Washington > > and why should I remember what county you're in? Your claim is > > ridiculous, so prove it. > > I posted several times in this very thread that I live in unincorporated > Snohomish County. Not reading every single one of your posts and don't expect me to remember your personal details. Ever. > You were talking like I couldn't figure things out and > needed things spelled out for me. And then you posted a link for King > County which has nothing at all to do with me! > > I also lived in MA and made the mistake of flattening my cans. I thought > that I was supposed to do that because the recycling information I had been > given said to flatten them. This apparently did not include soda cans which > were not supposed to go out with the recycling, although they would take > them if you put them in there. They were supposed to be taken to the > package store (liquor store). Each store seemed to have its own rules. > Some required the customer to sort out by like items. Others by the > distributor. Others did this for you. But one thing was common. Do not > flatten the cans! They said they could not take them if flattened. > Store??? That's insane. > I was just pointing out that different areas have different rules. I guess > that you needed that spelled out in black and white. I think you're full of bull and you still haven't proved that you aren't. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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JohnJohn wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > >On 2014-09-12 5:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > >> > > > >> I already know that they don't. If they did, I would have seen it. > >> That's why I asked her. And I know enough not to waste my time calling > >> stores. You also don't see me bitching here but I sure see you and some > >> others doing it. And about me no less! > > > > > >Don't you realize that it is only because you give us so much ammunition? > > Nobody forces you to pull the trigger. Or am I missing another > Canadian habit here? "Have ammo, must shoot." Do keep in mind though. No reason to have ammo if you're not going to shoot. ;) |
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On 9/12/2014 11:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > Well, yeah. I also smoked for 27 years. I'll be 65 in 10 years. I may > well be in assisted living by then. And if so? From what I have seen > of other people, I won't really care about anything then. Well, you get good grades for pessimism. I remember when I thought people over 40 was old, but I'll be 69 next week and don't feel old at all. Sure, plenty of aches and pains and arthritis in my knees, but I'm not ready for the old age home yet. If you wan to be crippled in 10 years, you can do it, but with willpower, you can do better. |
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On 9/13/2014 9:15 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/12/2014 11:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> Well, yeah. I also smoked for 27 years. I'll be 65 in 10 years. I may >> well be in assisted living by then. And if so? From what I have seen >> of other people, I won't really care about anything then. > > Well, you get good grades for pessimism. I remember when I thought > people over 40 was old, but I'll be 69 next week and don't feel old at > all. Sure, plenty of aches and pains and arthritis in my knees, but I'm > not ready for the old age home yet. I wouldn't be rushing to live somewhere that costs thousands a month. I consider my walking to be a down payment in putting off such an eventuality if I can. nancy |
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On 9/13/2014 12:49 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > And you don't either! So why are you picking at me? I am not the only > person who drinks diet soda and I am certainly not the only one who > drinks as much as I do! Anyone drinking 12+ diet sodas is taking some risk, not just you. Too much artificial stuff for me. > > I do not see any risk here. None at all. If diet sodas were really all > that dangerous, they would put some kind of warning label on them. And > yet, they don't so... Remember when doctors used to do commercials for cigarettes? They help you relax. Doctors even smoked in the hospital. Sometimes the body can tolerate small amounts of a chemical, but you are ingesting 6X to 12X what most people would in a day, thus increasing risk. Your body, do as you please From WebMD: It's suspected that sodium benzoate, in addition to artificial food color, may increase hyperactivity in some children. Sodium benzoate in soft drinks may also react with added vitamin C to make benzene, a cancer-causing substance. |
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Julie Bove wrote:
> > I just don't get the giving advice thing. That is just never my first > instinct, although sometimes people will ask me for advice. That's > different. As I said, I think it's just a protective instinct. Someone has a problem and you have a solution to it so you tell them what you would do...what you have learned from experience. I do that sometimes but I never expect them to do what I said. It's just something that they might not have thought of. You're only trying to help. We can always learn some things from others who have been in the same situation. No need to "reinvent wheel." "Take it with a grain of salt" yeah yeah :) <back to talking about White Castle burgers> > And now I don't really like the frozen ones since somebody here said > they tasted like liver. I hadn't thought that prior but now I do. :( Since that one time I went to the (fast food) restaurant, I did buy a box of the frozen ones many years later and many years ago. I wasn't impressed. I'd rather buy a few fresh McD burgers. I'll always love those. Growing up, I always divided my allowance money each week for 15 cent hamburgers and 12 cent comic books (and the occasional 5 cent candy bars) :-D G. |
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On 9/13/2014 8:56 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> I also lived in MA and made the mistake of flattening my cans. I thought >> that I was supposed to do that because the recycling information I had been >> given said to flatten them. This apparently did not include soda cans which >> were not supposed to go out with the recycling, although they would take >> them if you put them in there. They were supposed to be taken to the >> package store (liquor store). Each store seemed to have its own rules. >> Some required the customer to sort out by like items. Others by the >> distributor. Others did this for you. But one thing was common. Do not >> flatten the cans! They said they could not take them if flattened. >> > Store??? That's insane. > But that is how it works. If you flatten a can, it goes in with scrap metals. Cans and bottles that you pay a deposit on have to go back to a redemption center or the store that sold it You put them into a machine. The machine reads the bar code and counts it. When done, it prints out a receipt that you can take to the counter for your cash. It the can was flattened, it would not have the bar code read The machines will flatten the can, shred the plastic and crush the glass and it is picked up the the recycle truck. There are different machines for each type. If the store does not carry the brand you brought back, it will reject it. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > Nice post, Gary. I like nice people and Julie is one (and you too). Forget all her problems, she is just an honest straight forward speaking person. I've read all her posts here for 2-3 years now (I forget). She doesn't lie like she's been accused of. I would have caught it by now. She's also a very strong woman to constantly put up with all the abuse she gets here. I can pick on people occasionally but never with malice. I always look for the good part of people. we all have our good and dark sides. G. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Remember when doctors used to do commercials for cigarettes? They help > you relax. Doctors even smoked in the hospital. lol. My old doctor was a smoker. He even took a few puffs in between going into his 3 examination rooms where patients were waiting to get seen. I took my daughter there once and was in the room with her. As he examined her he asked me, "So how have you been doing, Dad?" I responded, "Well, I quit smoking 11 days ago." I expected some praise from him. He responded, "Why in the hell did you do that?" hahahah I was stunned. That was not the response I expected from my doctor. He went on to tell me that if you can control cigarette smoking to 2 or 3 a day, your lungs will be just as healthy as a non smoker. He added that no other doctor will ever tell me that. G. |
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Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says... > > > You do seem to have way more > > than your fair share of "issues" but it's no joking matter. If it's > > real to you, it's real regardless of what anyone else thinks. > > No, Gary, it isn't. Don't be so dumb. > > If Julie posts some obvious lie or fantasy here that doesn't make it > real or true. If Julie refuses to believe some scientific proven fact, > her refusal doesn't make her right. Not what I meant, Janet. What I'm saying is that the mind is a powerful thing. If you eat something and are convinced it will make you sick, you really will feel physically sick. What seems real to her really can be real to her. |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Not what I meant, Janet. What I'm saying is that the mind is a > powerful thing. If you eat something and are convinced it will make > you sick, you really will feel physically sick. What seems real to her > really can be real to her. Yes, and according to Julie "You're all a bunch of loons anyway!" LOL Cheri |
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"Julie Bove" wrote:
> >"sf" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:55:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick >> > wrote: >> >>> Seltzer is only carbonated water. Really. >> >> What is the difference between seltzer and club soda (both >> unflavored)? Club soda only comes in huge bottles and I need it for a >> certain drink, but I don't want to buy that amount. Wish it came in 6 >> packs, but it doesn't (at the grocery store). > >Club soda is high in sodium. About the same as Coke. http://www.livestrong.com/article/29...trition-facts/ http://productnutrition.thecoca-colacompany.com/ Drinking 12-16 cans a day is definitely over dosing on sodium... for every ounce of soda you should drink two ounces of plain water to help flush your body. I enjoy some soda but I use more than double its volume in ice to counteract the sodium, but with as much sodium you ingest from soda it's not possible to consume enough water. Most of what you refer to as your disabilities are likely a result of your excessive sodium intake from excessive soda. http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4616914...t-joints_.html |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:26:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:20:24 -0700, sf > wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:55:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick > wrote: >>> >>>> Seltzer is only carbonated water. Really. >>> >>>What is the difference between seltzer and club soda (both >>>unflavored)? Club soda only comes in huge bottles and I need it for a >>>certain drink, but I don't want to buy that amount. Wish it came in 6 >>>packs, but it doesn't (at the grocery store). >> >> Club soda contains a little salt (NACL) I see club soda in 12 oz cans >> at every stupidmarket, in six packs too, also in liter bottles, and 2 >> liter bottles. > >But you're on the East coast. People there seem to drink that stuff. They >don't drink it much here. I don't believe that the club soda producers are giving up an entire regional market when they deliver all their other products to those areas. When I lived on the west coast several brands of club soda was sold in every market, and in several sizes... every gin mill stocks club soda, it's just carbonated mineral water, about the most popular mixer, so I don't believe you. A couple of my old navy buddies live in Washington state, next we're chatting on the phone I will ask them. One lives in Bellingham, the other in Port Orchard. |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:29:10 -0700, sf > wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:26:51 -0700, "Julie Bove" > wrote: > >> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:20:24 -0700, sf > wrote: >> > >> >>On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:55:10 -0600, Janet Bostwick >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> Seltzer is only carbonated water. Really. >> >> >> >>What is the difference between seltzer and club soda (both >> >>unflavored)? Club soda only comes in huge bottles and I need it for a >> >>certain drink, but I don't want to buy that amount. Wish it came in 6 >> >>packs, but it doesn't (at the grocery store). >> > >> > Club soda contains a little salt (NACL) I see club soda in 12 oz cans >> > at every stupidmarket, in six packs too, also in liter bottles, and 2 >> > liter bottles. >> >> But you're on the East coast. People there seem to drink that stuff. They >> don't drink it much here. > >Okay, that's the problem (for me, at least). Maybe I can find it in >small bottles somewhere, but not where I shop the most and actually >think to look for it. You just never looked... club soda is sold at every market where you live... of course you wouldn't look, club soda has no calories to feed your huge ass... you do all your shopping in the Hostess cupcake aisle. LOL |
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Mayo wrote:
>On 9/12/2014 8:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >>> On 9/12/2014 4:04 PM, Jeßus wrote: >>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:43:19 -0600, Mayo > wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/12/2014 12:09 AM, Jeßus wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:22:19 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ever try: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/BuffaloTools-C...ds=can+crusher >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wall mount, easy peasy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. I have no wall to mount one on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah. No walls. I was wondering what the problem would be. >>>>>> >>>>>>> And even if I did, I could only >>>>>>> imagine the amount of bitching I would hear because it would make >>>>>>> too much >>>>>>> noise. Plus that didn't get overly good reviews. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have had several over the years that could be set on the floor >>>>>>> or used on >>>>>>> the counter. They either didn't work particularly well or caused >>>>>>> occasional >>>>>>> injuries. I have gotten my fingers crushed a few times when the unit >>>>>>> slipped. Or the can goes shooting out, particularly smashed. >>>>>> >>>>>> How about a ceiling mounted one, since walls and floors are out? >>>>>> >>>>> Hang on, that would mean using a ladder! >>>>> >>>>> %-) >>>> >>>> Damn. I forgot that a ladder probably: >>>> >>>> 1 - won't fit through her door >>>> 2 - is too hard to unfold >>>> 3 - will her feet hurt on the steps >>>> 4 - her family would go crazy over the noise >>>> 6 - give her vertigo >>>> 7 - she is allergic to ceiling paint >>>> 8 - the bad feng shui caused by the ceiling mounted crusher will give >>>> her cancer >>>> >>>> >>> Ok, that was funny! >>> >>> ;-) >> >> No. It wasn't. > >Julie, lighten up, it was amusing. >Have you located ANY wall space for the hand can crusher? >I know you can do this. She doesn't need to buy a can crusher, her's is built in, all Julie needs to do is squat, place a can in her ass crack and stand up. Now she's going to tell us that's a great idea if only she didn't have a squatting disability! LOL |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:01:37 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>On 9/12/2014 8:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >>> On 9/12/2014 1:18 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >>>> >>>>>> Ha! Not here! Our beaches are rocky and cold. >>>>> >>>>> Oh bother, maybe make a trip down to Oregon? >>>> >>>> Nah. Beaches are outdoors. I do not like outdoors. Exception being >>>> places like tea gardens or other places with a lot of flowers. I do >>>> like flowers. >>> >>> You don't like beaches OR the outdoors?!? >>> >>> I can honestly say I've never met anyone else with that default setting. >> >> You haven't met my daughter. Or my parents. Neither of them liked >> outdoor things either. > > >Astounding - an entire coven of stay-homes! > >You lot are really unique, no kidding. Unique... don't you mean freak? |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:32:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Mayo" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/12/2014 1:21 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >>>> On 9/11/2014 9:22 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 9/11/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:00:55 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> On 9/11/2014 12:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either >>>>>>>>>>>>> two bins >>>>>>>>>>>>> or weekly pickup. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they >>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> give you one. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yep. They told me if I needed another bin, I would have to >>>>>>>>>>> purchase >>>>>>>>>>> one. I had been using a purchased, open topped one that was an >>>>>>>>>>> emergency purchase during that year that we had the two back to >>>>>>>>>>> back >>>>>>>>>>> snow storms. We went without pickup for so long I lost track >>>>>>>>>>> of it. >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a month. I do not want to pay $70+ for a wheeled recycle >>>>>>>>>>> bin so >>>>>>>>>>> I got a cheap lidded trash can, spray painted it blue and added a >>>>>>>>>>> large >>>>>>>>>>> recycle decal. They told me that the bin needed to be labeled >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> lidded. But we still have so much that some weeks, both of those >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> out there, plus both of our tall, thin ones plus a lot of boxes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wow, that is a lot of recycling. The bins we have are more like a >>>>>>>>>> tote, >>>>>>>>>> open top so I guess they can give them away compared to the ones >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> have. >>>>>>>>>> Pickup is every week >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We do have a tote but it would be good for me for part of a day. I >>>>>>>>> suppose >>>>>>>>> if I were to crush the cans, it would help. I just have trouble >>>>>>>>> doing that. >>>>>>>>> Stomping on them hurts my feet and legs and makes my husband yell >>>>>>>>> due >>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>> noise involved. Plus I can't do all that bending over to pick them >>>>>>>>> up. I >>>>>>>>> bought a device to use on the counter top but it isn't very stable >>>>>>>>> and it >>>>>>>>> hurts my hands to do it. So the best we can do is to squish them >>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>> middle. I also know that the water bottles are made to squish down >>>>>>>>> flat but >>>>>>>>> nobody ever takes the time to do that either. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One thing I hate is that some places that I order from will put one >>>>>>>>> tiny >>>>>>>>> thing in a huge box then a ton of paper. Sometimes there is enough >>>>>>>>> paper to >>>>>>>>> till 1/4 of the bin right away. I do know that we have far more >>>>>>>>> recycling >>>>>>>>> than our neighbors do. I also know that during the week, they >>>>>>>>> aren't >>>>>>>>> home >>>>>>>>> much. They work and either go out to eat or maybe get takeout. I >>>>>>>>> never see >>>>>>>>> them coming home with groceries. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My husband breaks down the boxes (we put them aside until trash day >>>>>>>> and he does them all at once.) My husband squashes pop cans. My >>>>>>>> husband takes out the trash. He lives here. Those are his jobs. I >>>>>>>> no longer have a daughter living at home, but if I did you can bet >>>>>>>> she >>>>>>>> would be helping to take care of the trash. You are the wife and >>>>>>>> mother. You are supposed to be pulling the household together into >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> unit that works together. >>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh gee! I had no clue that someone put you in charge of wives and >>>>>>> mothers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you disabled Janet? Well my husband and I both are. Daughter >>>>>>> isn't. But after her having a stress fracture in her back and >>>>>>> subsequent >>>>>>> injuries after that, plus learning that most likely because of >>>>>>> this, one >>>>>>> side of her body is stronger than the other, I sure as shooting am >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> going to make her stomp cans. I can't do it either. Husband works >>>>>>> 12 >>>>>>> hours shifts, often at night. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You run your house the way you want. It's not your business to be >>>>>>> telling others how to run theirs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ever try: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/BuffaloTools-C...ds=can+crusher >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wall mount, easy peasy. >>>>> >>>>> Nope. I have no wall to mount one on. And even if I did, I could only >>>>> imagine the amount of bitching I would hear because it would make too >>>>> much noise. Plus that didn't get overly good reviews. >>>> >>>> I have one. >>>> >>>> Works fine. >>>> >>>> No noise to speak of. >>>> >>>> Use a stud finder, really. >>> >>> Seriously have no wall to mount one on. The only walls I have in the >>> kitchen are above the lower cabinets and below the upper or above the >>> upper. Neither of these spaces would work for anything like that. No >>> spare wall space in the garage either and not going to put one on the >>> outside of the house. >>>> >>>>> I have had several over the years that could be set on the floor or >>>>> used >>>>> on the counter. They either didn't work particularly well or caused >>>>> occasional injuries. I have gotten my fingers crushed a few times when >>>>> the unit slipped. Or the can goes shooting out, particularly smashed. >>>> >>>> >>>> This unit does not bite hands, really. >>> >>> But I have no place to mount one. >> >> It takes up so little space I am finding that hard to believe. >> >> If you store a trash bin, right above it would be perfect, just move some >> stuff around. As many pops as you're consuming a crusher would seem >> mandatory. > >The trash can is in the middle of the room. So are the wheeled carts. I >have a galley kitchen and I am not kidding when I say that there seriously >are no open walls in there. There is a little piece of a wall next to the >exterior door but it has a heater in it. >A wall heater. I don't usually use the heater but I wouldn't want to put >anything over it, plus it wouldn't be easy to reach because that area is >where I keep two of the wheeled carts. My kitchen is seriously tiny. If >there are two people in it at one time, they both have to stay where they >are. And to get from one end to the other, chances are you will be moving >at least one cart or one of the bins, food/recycle/trash or one of the two >barstools to get through. I never heard of anyone who keeps their garbage bins inside their house, let alone in their kitchen... even the lowest trailer trash at least tosses their garbage out their kitchen window. Ya know, you can always lay down a line of those empty cans on your lawn and drive over them. |
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On 9/12/2014 10:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/12/2014 8:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 9/12/2014 4:04 PM, Jeßus wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:43:19 -0600, Mayo > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/12/2014 12:09 AM, Jeßus wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:22:19 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ever try: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/BuffaloTools-C...ds=can+crusher >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wall mount, easy peasy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope. I have no wall to mount one on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah. No walls. I was wondering what the problem would be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And even if I did, I could only >>>>>>>> imagine the amount of bitching I would hear because it would make >>>>>>>> too much >>>>>>>> noise. Plus that didn't get overly good reviews. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have had several over the years that could be set on the floor >>>>>>>> or used on >>>>>>>> the counter. They either didn't work particularly well or caused >>>>>>>> occasional >>>>>>>> injuries. I have gotten my fingers crushed a few times when the >>>>>>>> unit >>>>>>>> slipped. Or the can goes shooting out, particularly smashed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How about a ceiling mounted one, since walls and floors are out? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Hang on, that would mean using a ladder! >>>>>> >>>>>> %-) >>>>> >>>>> Damn. I forgot that a ladder probably: >>>>> >>>>> 1 - won't fit through her door >>>>> 2 - is too hard to unfold >>>>> 3 - will her feet hurt on the steps >>>>> 4 - her family would go crazy over the noise >>>>> 6 - give her vertigo >>>>> 7 - she is allergic to ceiling paint >>>>> 8 - the bad feng shui caused by the ceiling mounted crusher will give >>>>> her cancer >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Ok, that was funny! >>>> >>>> ;-) >>> >>> No. It wasn't. >> >> Julie, lighten up, it was amusing. >> >> Have you located ANY wall space for the hand can crusher? >> >> I know you can do this. > > I don't. Nor do I want such a thing mounted on my wall, especially > given the poor reviews. I am not going to crush cans. Give it up! Fine! Live with your mountain of un-crushed cans then, so be it. |
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On 9/12/2014 10:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/12/2014 8:28 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >>>> On 9/12/2014 1:18 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>>> Ha! Not here! Our beaches are rocky and cold. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh bother, maybe make a trip down to Oregon? >>>>> >>>>> Nah. Beaches are outdoors. I do not like outdoors. Exception being >>>>> places like tea gardens or other places with a lot of flowers. I do >>>>> like flowers. >>>> >>>> You don't like beaches OR the outdoors?!? >>>> >>>> I can honestly say I've never met anyone else with that default >>>> setting. >>> >>> You haven't met my daughter. Or my parents. Neither of them liked >>> outdoor things either. >> >> >> Astounding - an entire coven of stay-homes! >> >> You lot are really unique, no kidding. > > Why would you say that? We don't stay at home. We just don't like > hanging out, outdoors. Ok, distinction noted, indoors only. |
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On 9/12/2014 10:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/12/2014 8:32 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >>>> On 9/12/2014 1:21 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 9/11/2014 9:22 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On 9/11/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:00:55 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/11/2014 12:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two bins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or weekly pickup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> give you one. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. They told me if I needed another bin, I would have to >>>>>>>>>>>>> purchase >>>>>>>>>>>>> one. I had been using a purchased, open topped one that >>>>>>>>>>>>> was an >>>>>>>>>>>>> emergency purchase during that year that we had the two >>>>>>>>>>>>> back to >>>>>>>>>>>>> back >>>>>>>>>>>>> snow storms. We went without pickup for so long I lost track >>>>>>>>>>>>> of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a month. I do not want to pay $70+ for a wheeled >>>>>>>>>>>>> recycle >>>>>>>>>>>>> bin so >>>>>>>>>>>>> I got a cheap lidded trash can, spray painted it blue and >>>>>>>>>>>>> added a >>>>>>>>>>>>> large >>>>>>>>>>>>> recycle decal. They told me that the bin needed to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> labeled and >>>>>>>>>>>>> lidded. But we still have so much that some weeks, both of >>>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> out there, plus both of our tall, thin ones plus a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>> boxes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, that is a lot of recycling. The bins we have are more >>>>>>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>>>>>> tote, >>>>>>>>>>>> open top so I guess they can give them away compared to the >>>>>>>>>>>> ones >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> have. >>>>>>>>>>>> Pickup is every week >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We do have a tote but it would be good for me for part of a >>>>>>>>>>> day. I >>>>>>>>>>> suppose >>>>>>>>>>> if I were to crush the cans, it would help. I just have trouble >>>>>>>>>>> doing that. >>>>>>>>>>> Stomping on them hurts my feet and legs and makes my husband >>>>>>>>>>> yell >>>>>>>>>>> due >>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>> noise involved. Plus I can't do all that bending over to pick >>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>> up. I >>>>>>>>>>> bought a device to use on the counter top but it isn't very >>>>>>>>>>> stable >>>>>>>>>>> and it >>>>>>>>>>> hurts my hands to do it. So the best we can do is to squish >>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>> middle. I also know that the water bottles are made to squish >>>>>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>>>>> flat but >>>>>>>>>>> nobody ever takes the time to do that either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing I hate is that some places that I order from will put >>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>> tiny >>>>>>>>>>> thing in a huge box then a ton of paper. Sometimes there is >>>>>>>>>>> enough >>>>>>>>>>> paper to >>>>>>>>>>> till 1/4 of the bin right away. I do know that we have far more >>>>>>>>>>> recycling >>>>>>>>>>> than our neighbors do. I also know that during the week, they >>>>>>>>>>> aren't >>>>>>>>>>> home >>>>>>>>>>> much. They work and either go out to eat or maybe get >>>>>>>>>>> takeout. I >>>>>>>>>>> never see >>>>>>>>>>> them coming home with groceries. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My husband breaks down the boxes (we put them aside until >>>>>>>>>> trash day >>>>>>>>>> and he does them all at once.) My husband squashes pop cans. My >>>>>>>>>> husband takes out the trash. He lives here. Those are his >>>>>>>>>> jobs. I >>>>>>>>>> no longer have a daughter living at home, but if I did you can >>>>>>>>>> bet >>>>>>>>>> she >>>>>>>>>> would be helping to take care of the trash. You are the wife and >>>>>>>>>> mother. You are supposed to be pulling the household together >>>>>>>>>> into a >>>>>>>>>> unit that works together. >>>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh gee! I had no clue that someone put you in charge of wives and >>>>>>>>> mothers! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you disabled Janet? Well my husband and I both are. Daughter >>>>>>>>> isn't. But after her having a stress fracture in her back and >>>>>>>>> subsequent >>>>>>>>> injuries after that, plus learning that most likely because of >>>>>>>>> this, one >>>>>>>>> side of her body is stronger than the other, I sure as shooting >>>>>>>>> am not >>>>>>>>> going to make her stomp cans. I can't do it either. Husband >>>>>>>>> works 12 >>>>>>>>> hours shifts, often at night. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You run your house the way you want. It's not your business to be >>>>>>>>> telling others how to run theirs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ever try: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/BuffaloTools-C...ds=can+crusher >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wall mount, easy peasy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. I have no wall to mount one on. And even if I did, I could >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> imagine the amount of bitching I would hear because it would make >>>>>>> too >>>>>>> much noise. Plus that didn't get overly good reviews. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Works fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> No noise to speak of. >>>>>> >>>>>> Use a stud finder, really. >>>>> >>>>> Seriously have no wall to mount one on. The only walls I have in the >>>>> kitchen are above the lower cabinets and below the upper or above the >>>>> upper. Neither of these spaces would work for anything like that. No >>>>> spare wall space in the garage either and not going to put one on the >>>>> outside of the house. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have had several over the years that could be set on the floor or >>>>>>> used >>>>>>> on the counter. They either didn't work particularly well or caused >>>>>>> occasional injuries. I have gotten my fingers crushed a few times >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> the unit slipped. Or the can goes shooting out, particularly >>>>>>> smashed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This unit does not bite hands, really. >>>>> >>>>> But I have no place to mount one. >>>> >>>> It takes up so little space I am finding that hard to believe. >>>> >>>> If you store a trash bin, right above it would be perfect, just move >>>> some stuff around. As many pops as you're consuming a crusher would >>>> seem mandatory. >>> >>> The trash can is in the middle of the room. So are the wheeled carts. >>> I have a galley kitchen and I am not kidding when I say that there >>> seriously are no open walls in there. There is a little piece of a wall >>> next to the exterior door but it has a heater in it. >>> A wall heater. I don't usually use the heater but I wouldn't want to >>> put anything over it, plus it wouldn't be easy to reach because that >>> area is where I keep two of the wheeled carts. My kitchen is seriously >>> tiny. If there are two people in it at one time, they both have to stay >>> where they are. And to get from one end to the other, chances are you >>> will be moving at least one cart or one of the bins, food/recycle/trash >>> or one of the two barstools to get through. >> >> You have more excuses than a porch dog has fleas. >> >> YOU CAN AND COULD MAKE WALL SPACE, if YOU WISHED. >> >> SUGGESTION MODE - off. >> >> I promise you, things like this can be done, with minimal disruption, >> please, believe me. > > I am simply not interested! Humph! |
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On 9/12/2014 10:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/12/2014 8:46 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 9/12/2014 3:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>> On 2014-09-12 3:35 PM, jmcquown wrote: >>>>>> On 9/11/2014 10:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:06:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:52:35 -0400, Brooklyn1 >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sf wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A $15 bin would not work for me. We have tons! I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>> size our >>>>>>>>>>>> bin is but clearly far more than 32 gal. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm flabbergasted that you produce that much recycling! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For a family of three that is a tremendous amount of >>>>>>>>>> recyclables... >>>>>>>>>> only thing I can think is that they are too lazy to collapse >>>>>>>>>> cartons >>>>>>>>>> and stomp cans. My recyclables bin is 35 gallons, most weeks >>>>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>>>> barely half full and I have lots of cat food cans, but I wash and >>>>>>>>>> stomp on them. Cat litter is in heavy cardboard cartons, but I >>>>>>>>>> collapse those, and I collapse all other cartons, even cereal >>>>>>>>>> boxes, >>>>>>>>>> even the tiny cartons like from toothpaste tubes get flattened. >>>>>>>>>> Now >>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering how much box wine Julie goes through. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> She doesn't have any room left for wine. She's drinking at >>>>>>>>> least 16 >>>>>>>>> cans of soda pop per day. No wonder she has digestive issues and >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> doesn't find food appealing. >>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With all that carbination you'd think she'd take off like a >>>>>>>> Goodyear >>>>>>>> blimp... 16 cans of soda is 1 1/2 gallons... even if diet soda all >>>>>>>> those chemicals it contains would poison most people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I never said that I drank 16 cans. I said 12. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, that's so much better! And so healthy, too. Criminitly. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Actually, what she originally said was *at least* 12. >>>>> >>>> Is there a reason you are fixated on that? >>> >>> They're all just fixated on *me*. >> >> Clearly. >> >>> For some reason I am like some sort >>> of celebrity to them. I have no clue why. >> >> You SHARE your life, that's why. >> >>> I also know that I am not >>> the only person on the face of this earth that drinks that amount of >>> sodas. I know the number 12 because 12 come in a pack. Once in a while >>> if I have to stay up all night, like I am at the hospital (not in but >>> at) and trying to stay awake, I will have more. I can't drink coffee >>> any more and while I like hot tea, I prefer to make it at home when I >>> drink it. I find that the water elsewhere often isn't hot enough to >>> brew it properly. >> >> >> Julie, my dear Julie...Sodastream! > > Not even remotely interested. Even with 25% cost savings? |
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On 9/12/2014 10:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/12/2014 9:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>>> Have you ever considered a Sodastream machine? >>>> >>>> http://www.sodastream.com/ >>>> >>>> You can carbonate juts water, water with fruit essence, standard sugar >>>> pop syrup and best of all, Sucralose diet pop syrup. >>>> >>>> The ingredients list is far shorter than commercial pop formulations. >>>> >>>> And...it's a cost saver. >>> >>> Certainly not. And if I get gifted with one? It will go in the give >>> away box. >> >> Wow. >> >>> I have no interest at all in those things for a variety of >>> reasons. I like Lime Diet Coke and pretty much only Lime Diet Coke. I >>> also do not like Sucralose...aka Splenda for most things. >> >> Do tell. >> >>> Especially >>> not in drinks. Does not make for a good tasting drink, IMO. I do use >>> the brown sugar Splenda occasionally for baking and regular Splenda for >>> cranberry salad and coleslaw. But I don't like most drinks made with >>> it. >> >> Another fail, as so many others have noted. > > Well, what did you expect? I have no problems with what I am doing. > Ya'll are trying to get me to change. I don't want to change. Folks have offered helpful suggestions, change is your own to ponder. |
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On 9/12/2014 10:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >> On 9/12/2014 9:20 PM, Jeßus wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:01:57 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> And you dare to call me a whack job? All your lying and accusations >>>> and now >>>> stalking my posts? What does that make you? If there's a word for >>>> that, I >>>> don't want to know it. :( >>> >>> It's called confronting you with your lies (ironically doing exactly >>> that within your own reply), denials and irrational reasoning. You ARE >>> a whack job, no doubt about it. You're a cautionary example of how not >>> to live in a consumer society. >>> >> >> >> Umm...maybe she's just unique, really. > > I'm not the one who lied here. Ok. |
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On 9/12/2014 10:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message > ... >> On 9/12/2014 10:22 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>> >>> I see a whole lot of apples and oranges things going on here. People >>> are telling me that the diet soda will cause me problems. And yet at 55 >>> years old, I have none of those problems. And I've been drinking diet >>> soda ever since I can remember. >> >> >> >> wish I was feeling like I was at 55. Maybe all those preservatives >> you drink at keeping you so well. You don't know the long term >> effects yet. Perhaps there will be none, but perhaps you will have all >> sorts of internal problems in 5 or 10 years. Worth the risk? > > And you don't either! So why are you picking at me? I am not the only > person who drinks diet soda and I am certainly not the only one who > drinks as much as I do! > > I do not see any risk here. None at all. If diet sodas were really all > that dangerous, they would put some kind of warning label on them. And > yet, they don't so... > > Ekshually: http://www.livestrong.com/article/44...drinking-soda/ Diet soda has been associated with kidney problems, according to an August 2010 study published in the “Clinical Journal of the American Society of Nephrology.” Study authors concluded that women who drank more than two servings a day of artificially sweetened soda per day saw a decrease in kidney function over 20 years that was three times the rate of decline found in women who did not drink diet soda. No association was found between the consumption of sugar sweetened sodas and kidney function decline. Other Health Risks Other health risks associated with regular consumption of soda include dental problems and increased osteoporosis risk. Soda contains acidic ingredients that can erode tooth enamel, resulting in tooth decay. Frequent soda drinkers often consume fewer nutrient-rich beverages in the daily diet, such as milk and juice, replacing them with soft drinks, decreasing calcium intake and increasing the risk of developing osteoporosis. http://www.prevention.com/food/healt...king-diet-soda In fact, a University of Minnesota study of almost 10,000 adults found that even just one diet soda a day was linked to a 34% higher risk of metabolic syndrome, a group of symptoms including belly fat and high cholesterol that put you at risk for heart disease. But people are still sipping the stuff, and in record numbers. Kids consume diet soda at more than double the rate of the last decade, according to research in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Among adults, consumption has grown almost 25%. Need the motivation to kick your soda habit for good? Put down the can, and check out the 7 Side Effects of Drinking Diet Soda. |
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:08:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 9/13/2014 8:56 AM, sf wrote: > > >> > >> I also lived in MA and made the mistake of flattening my cans. I thought > >> that I was supposed to do that because the recycling information I had been > >> given said to flatten them. This apparently did not include soda cans which > >> were not supposed to go out with the recycling, although they would take > >> them if you put them in there. They were supposed to be taken to the > >> package store (liquor store). Each store seemed to have its own rules. > >> Some required the customer to sort out by like items. Others by the > >> distributor. Others did this for you. But one thing was common. Do not > >> flatten the cans! They said they could not take them if flattened. > >> > > Store??? That's insane. > > > > But that is how it works. > > If you flatten a can, it goes in with scrap metals. Cans and bottles > that you pay a deposit on have to go back to a redemption center or the > store that sold it You put them into a machine. The machine reads the > bar code and counts it. When done, it prints out a receipt that you can > take to the counter for your cash. It the can was flattened, it would > not have the bar code read > > The machines will flatten the can, shred the plastic and crush the glass > and it is picked up the the recycle truck. There are different > machines for each type. If the store does not carry the brand you > brought back, it will reject it. That is just plain crazy! So glad recycling doesn't work that way here. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 9/12/2014 11:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Cheri" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> None of this has anything at all to do with my consumption of diet >>> drinks. Nothing! And you can't prove otherwise. And neither can >>> anyone else here. >> >> LOL, just LOL. > > Yeah. Keep laughing. You're all a bunch of loons anyway! http://www.livestrong.com/article/44...drinking-soda/ Diet soda has been associated with kidney problems, according to an August 2010 study published in the “Clinical Journal of the American Society of Nephrology.” Study authors concluded that women who drank more than two servings a day of artificially sweetened soda per day saw a decrease in kidney function over 20 years that was three times the rate of decline found in women who did not drink diet soda. No association was found between the consumption of sugar sweetened sodas and kidney function decline. Other Health Risks Other health risks associated with regular consumption of soda include dental problems and increased osteoporosis risk. Soda contains acidic ingredients that can erode tooth enamel, resulting in tooth decay. Frequent soda drinkers often consume fewer nutrient-rich beverages in the daily diet, such as milk and juice, replacing them with soft drinks, decreasing calcium intake and increasing the risk of developing osteoporosis. http://www.prevention.com/food/healt...king-diet-soda In fact, a University of Minnesota study of almost 10,000 adults found that even just one diet soda a day was linked to a 34% higher risk of metabolic syndrome, a group of symptoms including belly fat and high cholesterol that put you at risk for heart disease. But people are still sipping the stuff, and in record numbers. Kids consume diet soda at more than double the rate of the last decade, according to research in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Among adults, consumption has grown almost 25%. Need the motivation to kick your soda habit for good? Put down the can, and check out the 7 Side Effects of Drinking Diet Soda. |
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Mayo wrote:
>On 9/12/2014 8:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Mayo" > wrote in message ... >>> On 9/12/2014 8:57 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote: >>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:59:17 -0600, Mayo > wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/11/2014 9:22 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On 9/11/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:00:55 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/11/2014 12:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either >>>>>>>>>>>>>> two bins >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or weekly pickup. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and >>>>>>>>>>>>> they will >>>>>>>>>>>>> give you one. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. They told me if I needed another bin, I would have to >>>>>>>>>>>> purchase >>>>>>>>>>>> one. I had been using a purchased, open topped one that was an >>>>>>>>>>>> emergency purchase during that year that we had the two back >>>>>>>>>>>> to back >>>>>>>>>>>> snow storms. We went without pickup for so long I lost track >>>>>>>>>>>> of it. >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a month. I do not want to pay $70+ for a wheeled >>>>>>>>>>>> recycle >>>>>>>>>>>> bin so >>>>>>>>>>>> I got a cheap lidded trash can, spray painted it blue and >>>>>>>>>>>> added a >>>>>>>>>>>> large >>>>>>>>>>>> recycle decal. They told me that the bin needed to be >>>>>>>>>>>> labeled and >>>>>>>>>>>> lidded. But we still have so much that some weeks, both of >>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> out there, plus both of our tall, thin ones plus a lot of boxes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wow, that is a lot of recycling. The bins we have are more >>>>>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>>>>> tote, >>>>>>>>>>> open top so I guess they can give them away compared to the >>>>>>>>>>> ones you >>>>>>>>>>> have. >>>>>>>>>>> Pickup is every week >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We do have a tote but it would be good for me for part of a >>>>>>>>>> day. I >>>>>>>>>> suppose >>>>>>>>>> if I were to crush the cans, it would help. I just have trouble >>>>>>>>>> doing that. >>>>>>>>>> Stomping on them hurts my feet and legs and makes my husband >>>>>>>>>> yell due >>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>> noise involved. Plus I can't do all that bending over to pick >>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>> up. I >>>>>>>>>> bought a device to use on the counter top but it isn't very stable >>>>>>>>>> and it >>>>>>>>>> hurts my hands to do it. So the best we can do is to squish them >>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> middle. I also know that the water bottles are made to squish >>>>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>>>> flat but >>>>>>>>>> nobody ever takes the time to do that either. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One thing I hate is that some places that I order from will put >>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>> tiny >>>>>>>>>> thing in a huge box then a ton of paper. Sometimes there is >>>>>>>>>> enough >>>>>>>>>> paper to >>>>>>>>>> till 1/4 of the bin right away. I do know that we have far more >>>>>>>>>> recycling >>>>>>>>>> than our neighbors do. I also know that during the week, they >>>>>>>>>> aren't >>>>>>>>>> home >>>>>>>>>> much. They work and either go out to eat or maybe get takeout. I >>>>>>>>>> never see >>>>>>>>>> them coming home with groceries. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My husband breaks down the boxes (we put them aside until trash day >>>>>>>>> and he does them all at once.) My husband squashes pop cans. My >>>>>>>>> husband takes out the trash. He lives here. Those are his >>>>>>>>> jobs. I >>>>>>>>> no longer have a daughter living at home, but if I did you can >>>>>>>>> bet she >>>>>>>>> would be helping to take care of the trash. You are the wife and >>>>>>>>> mother. You are supposed to be pulling the household together >>>>>>>>> into a >>>>>>>>> unit that works together. >>>>>>>>> Janet US >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh gee! I had no clue that someone put you in charge of wives and >>>>>>>> mothers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you disabled Janet? Well my husband and I both are. Daughter >>>>>>>> isn't. But after her having a stress fracture in her back and >>>>>>>> subsequent >>>>>>>> injuries after that, plus learning that most likely because of >>>>>>>> this, one >>>>>>>> side of her body is stronger than the other, I sure as shooting >>>>>>>> am not >>>>>>>> going to make her stomp cans. I can't do it either. Husband >>>>>>>> works 12 >>>>>>>> hours shifts, often at night. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You run your house the way you want. It's not your business to be >>>>>>>> telling others how to run theirs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ever try: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/BuffaloTools-C...ds=can+crusher >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wall mount, easy peasy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. I have no wall to mount one on. And even if I did, I could >>>>>> only >>>>>> imagine the amount of bitching I would hear because it would make too >>>>>> much noise. Plus that didn't get overly good reviews. >>>>> >>>>> I have one. >>>>> >>>>> Works fine. >>>>> >>>>> No noise to speak of. >>>>> >>>>> Use a stud finder, really. >>>>> >>>>>> I have had several over the years that could be set on the floor or >>>>>> used >>>>>> on the counter. They either didn't work particularly well or caused >>>>>> occasional injuries. I have gotten my fingers crushed a few times >>>>>> when >>>>>> the unit slipped. Or the can goes shooting out, particularly smashed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This unit does not bite hands, really. >>>> >>>> I prefer just stepping on cans... as I explained lay the can on it's >>>> side and step gently on the section above the botton, the can will >>>> flatten and the bottom will tip up and actually curl over some, then >>>> step on the bottom portion, voila, totally flat. I place the lid in >>>> first, or with some cans I don't remove the top lid entirely, empty, >>>> rinse, and fold the lid inside... I don't like leaving sharp lids >>>> about. With large cans like coffee cans after emptying I remove the >>>> bottom with my trusty swing-a-way... don't need to go all the way >>>> around, just push the bottom lid in and flatten. Aluminum soda cans >>>> don't get flattened here, there's a 5¢ deposit on those. >>>> >>> >>> Oh good grief! >>> >>> So the darned state has their hand out for cans?!?! >> >> Yes. Both NY and MA will pay you 5 cents for cans. Of course that 5 >> cents is tacked on when you buy. > >Of course, pay the state now, collect later. We don't have empties everywhere... I've been through states that don't have deposit, disgustingly filthy everywhere. The system works well here, every supermarket has a space alloted for the machines that accept deposit empties, the machines now are high speed and collect both aluminum cans and plastic bottles in the same machine. The machine keeps count and when done you press a button to receive the receipt. I don't accumulate a lot of deposit containers so I go to redeem them only 2-3 times a year. Many people csan't be bothered so they donate their empties to various charities of sorts, like the homeless shelters. Even with deposits some still toss the empties along roadways, mostly teens, but every day there are people who scour the road shoulders for empties... they get a permit under the "Keep This Roadway Clean" program, they pick up other trash too but they get to keep all the deposit empties they find, I'm told it's a lucrative business, one can make a pretty good living as they only collect their assigned roadways during good weather but the empties really accumulate over winter so in spring they collect a bonanaza after the snow melts... a lot of retired folks do this. It's a good way to do easy work outdoors... too bad Julie is allergic to the outdoors, and to work. |
Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
On 9/13/2014 5:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote: >> >> On 2014-09-12 5:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >> >>> I already know that they don't. If they did, I would have seen it. >>> That's why I asked her. And I know enough not to waste my time calling >>> stores. You also don't see me bitching here but I sure see you and some >>> others doing it. And about me no less! >> >> Don't you realize that it is only because you give us so much ammunition? > > Yeah. LOL! No ammunition shortage in that part of the US. ;) > Heh, I'll bet that goes over like a ...lead balloon... |
Possible mandatory composting in Seattle
On 9/13/2014 7:01 AM, Gary wrote:
> JohnJohn wrote: >> >> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:02:03 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2014-09-12 5:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> I already know that they don't. If they did, I would have seen it. >>>> That's why I asked her. And I know enough not to waste my time calling >>>> stores. You also don't see me bitching here but I sure see you and some >>>> others doing it. And about me no less! >>> >>> >>> Don't you realize that it is only because you give us so much ammunition? >> >> Nobody forces you to pull the trigger. Or am I missing another >> Canadian habit here? "Have ammo, must shoot." > > Do keep in mind though. No reason to have ammo if you're not going to > shoot. ;) > Barter? |
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