On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:13:49 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>> We use the calici virus to keep the numbers down in Aus these days
>> when they get out of control, for some reason they use it in Tasmania
>> - I don't really understand why, because they don't seem to be able to
>> breed up out of control here, presumably because of the colder
>> climate.
>
> Myxymatosis virus was used in UK in my childhood, and purposely
>spread by farmers. ...but eventually some rabbits developed some genetic
>resistance and those resistant strains of rabbit spread again. More
>recently, they've been reduced by the spreading of rabbit haemolytic
>disease.

Myxo was also used here, but of course they developed resistance to it
and hence was replaced with the calici virus. Now the rabbits are
developing a resistance to it here in Aus, but not the case here in
Tasmania, from what I can tell. Not yet, anyway. The past couple of
years hasn't been the best for hunting rabbits - they're still here,
but you don't see any large groups of them any more. I'm hoping their
numbers increase again to what they were, because I've yet to see what
I would consider significant environmental damage locally. On mainland
Australia - a very different story, however.

In article >,
says...
How many rabbis could there possible be in
> an area that you would be able to shoot 600 of them in the beam of the
> headlights?

Lamping in that steep area never uses vehicle headlights.

If there were enough rabbits in any area where you could
> should 600 of them in one night there would not likely be any vegetation
> left in the area. There would be foxes, owls, hawks, coyotes and other
> predators there feasting on them.

This is Scotland. No coyotes, foxes are tightly controlled because of
the losses they cause to sheep farmers.

Take away rabbits predators and this is what you get

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19300340

Janet

On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:02:40 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>What if this clown makes a post and nobody replies? Well, I guess his
>various sock puppets would still reply.

That's a time honoured tradition on RFC, at least with a couple of the
regulars here it is.

On 8/31/2014 4:13 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:12:21 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:06:03 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-08-31 4:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:24:40 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:33:07 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:05:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:58:17 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Night hunting of rabbits and foxes, called "lamping", is a common method of culling both
>>>>>>>> in Scotland. Our farm neighbours used to notify us in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of them (with his brother) shot 600
>>>>>>>> rabbits on their land in one night , and covered the cost of the ammo by selling the corpses to a feed company.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 600 rabbits in a night seems a little excessive. That's aim, shoot,
>>>>>>> retrieve, and bag every 45 seconds for 8 hours straight. And at some
>>>>>>> point you have to reload and dump your bounty someplace as 600 rabbits
>>>>>>> gets kinda heavy (that's almost a ton of rabbits).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It happens, whether you believe it or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, hunters are never known to exaggerate their catch.
>>>>
>>>> Who claimed otherwise?
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure it happened (in their minds only).
>>>>
>>>> Uh-huh.
>>>>
>>>> You are SO like sf. That special blend of ignorance and arrogance.
>>>> Sometimes I wonder if you're really the same person posting under two
>>>> nyms.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That may be the one thing that I would agree with him about. 600 rabbits
>>> in one night????? Seriously. How many rabbis could there possible be in
>>> an area that you would be able to shoot 600 of them in the beam of the
>>> headlights?
>>
>> And how many of them rabbits are going to stick around with all that
>> gunfire going on? Did they think they were coming to a party?
>
> You assume there's somewhere for them to get out of the firing line.
> That's not always the case.
>
Think...rabbit...hole...


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On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:55:39 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

>On 8/31/2014 4:13 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:12:21 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:06:03 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-08-31 4:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:24:40 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:33:07 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:05:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:58:17 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Night hunting of rabbits and foxes, called "lamping", is a common method of culling both
>>>>>>>>> in Scotland. Our farm neighbours used to notify us in advance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One of them (with his brother) shot 600
>>>>>>>>> rabbits on their land in one night , and covered the cost of the ammo by selling the corpses to a feed company.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 600 rabbits in a night seems a little excessive. That's aim, shoot,
>>>>>>>> retrieve, and bag every 45 seconds for 8 hours straight. And at some
>>>>>>>> point you have to reload and dump your bounty someplace as 600 rabbits
>>>>>>>> gets kinda heavy (that's almost a ton of rabbits).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It happens, whether you believe it or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, hunters are never known to exaggerate their catch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who claimed otherwise?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure it happened (in their minds only).
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh-huh.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are SO like sf. That special blend of ignorance and arrogance.
>>>>> Sometimes I wonder if you're really the same person posting under two
>>>>> nyms.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That may be the one thing that I would agree with him about. 600 rabbits
>>>> in one night????? Seriously. How many rabbis could there possible be in
>>>> an area that you would be able to shoot 600 of them in the beam of the
>>>> headlights?
>>>
>>> And how many of them rabbits are going to stick around with all that
>>> gunfire going on? Did they think they were coming to a party?
>>
>> You assume there's somewhere for them to get out of the firing line.
>> That's not always the case.
>>
>Think...rabbit...hole...

Wow. I never thought of THAT! <rolls eyes>

On 8/31/2014 5:20 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:55:39 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2014 4:13 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:12:21 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:06:03 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-08-31 4:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:24:40 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:33:07 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:05:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:58:17 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Night hunting of rabbits and foxes, called "lamping", is a common method of culling both
>>>>>>>>>> in Scotland. Our farm neighbours used to notify us in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One of them (with his brother) shot 600
>>>>>>>>>> rabbits on their land in one night , and covered the cost of the ammo by selling the corpses to a feed company.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 600 rabbits in a night seems a little excessive. That's aim, shoot,
>>>>>>>>> retrieve, and bag every 45 seconds for 8 hours straight. And at some
>>>>>>>>> point you have to reload and dump your bounty someplace as 600 rabbits
>>>>>>>>> gets kinda heavy (that's almost a ton of rabbits).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It happens, whether you believe it or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, hunters are never known to exaggerate their catch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who claimed otherwise?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure it happened (in their minds only).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh-huh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are SO like sf. That special blend of ignorance and arrogance.
>>>>>> Sometimes I wonder if you're really the same person posting under two
>>>>>> nyms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That may be the one thing that I would agree with him about. 600 rabbits
>>>>> in one night????? Seriously. How many rabbis could there possible be in
>>>>> an area that you would be able to shoot 600 of them in the beam of the
>>>>> headlights?
>>>>
>>>> And how many of them rabbits are going to stick around with all that
>>>> gunfire going on? Did they think they were coming to a party?
>>>
>>> You assume there's somewhere for them to get out of the firing line.
>>> That's not always the case.
>>>
>> Think...rabbit...hole...
>
> Wow. I never thought of THAT! <rolls eyes>
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On 2014-08-31 18:12, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:06:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> That may be the one thing that I would agree with him about. 600 rabbits
>> in one night????? Seriously. How many rabbis could there possible be in
>> an area that you would be able to shoot 600 of them in the beam of the
>> headlights?
>
> Well, most would use a hand-held spotlight. Puzzled why you would
> think to be limited by headlights?
>


Do you really think that a hand held spotlight adds more credibility of
a claim if 600 rabbits bagged in one night? Seriously?

On Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:21:36 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:24:40 -0500, Sqwertz >
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:33:07 +1000, Je�us wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:05:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:58:17 +0100, Janet wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> Night hunting of rabbits and foxes, called "lamping", is a common method of culling both
>
> >>>> in Scotland. Our farm neighbours used to notify us in advance.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> One of them (with his brother) shot 600
>
> >>>> rabbits on their land in one night , and covered the cost of the ammo by selling the corpses to a feed company.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>600 rabbits in a night seems a little excessive. That's aim, shoot,
>
> >>>retrieve, and bag every 45 seconds for 8 hours straight. And at some
>
> >>>point you have to reload and dump your bounty someplace as 600 rabbits
>
> >>>gets kinda heavy (that's almost a ton of rabbits).
>
> >>
>
> >> It happens, whether you believe it or not.
>
> >
>
> >Yeah, hunters are never known to exaggerate their catch.
>
>
>
> Who claimed otherwise?
>
>
>
> >I'm sure it happened (in their minds only).
>
>
>
> Uh-huh.
>
>
>
> You are SO like sf. That special blend of ignorance and arrogance.
>
> Sometimes I wonder if you're really the same person posting under two
>
> nyms.

Whatever you think of Barbara, she's not one of Steve's socks. and whatever
you think about Steve, that Mayo thing that stalks him is far worse. Barbara
and Steve are real persons, as are you and I, and as unpleasant as it is to
know that such a person exists, Julie is too. Mayo and medavis are pure scum.

Why do I even bother?

--Bryan

On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:38:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-08-31 18:12, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:06:03 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> That may be the one thing that I would agree with him about. 600 rabbits
>>> in one night????? Seriously. How many rabbis could there possible be in
>>> an area that you would be able to shoot 600 of them in the beam of the
>>> headlights?
>>
>> Well, most would use a hand-held spotlight. Puzzled why you would
>> think to be limited by headlights?
>>
>
>
>Do you really think that a hand held spotlight adds more credibility of
>a claim if 600 rabbits bagged in one night? Seriously?

It adds a lot more credibility compared to using just headlights.
And anyone who has done so wouldn't ask the question in the first
place.

On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 18:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:21:36 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:24:40 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:33:07 +1000, Je?us wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:05:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>>On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:58:17 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>>> Night hunting of rabbits and foxes, called "lamping", is a common method of culling both
>>
>> >>>> in Scotland. Our farm neighbours used to notify us in advance.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> One of them (with his brother) shot 600
>>
>> >>>> rabbits on their land in one night , and covered the cost of the ammo by selling the corpses to a feed company.
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>>600 rabbits in a night seems a little excessive. That's aim, shoot,
>>
>> >>>retrieve, and bag every 45 seconds for 8 hours straight. And at some
>>
>> >>>point you have to reload and dump your bounty someplace as 600 rabbits
>>
>> >>>gets kinda heavy (that's almost a ton of rabbits).
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> It happens, whether you believe it or not.
>>
>> >
>>
>> >Yeah, hunters are never known to exaggerate their catch.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who claimed otherwise?
>>
>>
>>
>> >I'm sure it happened (in their minds only).
>>
>>
>>
>> Uh-huh.
>>
>>
>>
>> You are SO like sf. That special blend of ignorance and arrogance.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder if you're really the same person posting under two
>>
>> nyms.
>
>Whatever you think of Barbara, she's not one of Steve's socks.

LOL, oh no! I wasn't suggesting that at all. It's just that their
personalities are quite similar really (IMO) which is probably why
they clash so much. One has a greater intellect than the other,
though.

>and whatever
>you think about Steve, that Mayo thing that stalks him is far worse.

Well, in another post today, Steve is saying that *I'm* stalking him.
Don't ask me... I have no idea what he's on about at this stage

>Barbara
>and Steve are real persons, as are you and I, and as unpleasant as it is to
>know that such a person exists, Julie is too. Mayo and medavis are pure scum.
>
>Why do I even bother?

Because you wanted to bother

On 8/31/2014 7:23 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:21:36 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:24:40 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:33:07 +1000, Je�us wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:05:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:58:17 +0100, Janet wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Night hunting of rabbits and foxes, called "lamping", is a common method of culling both
>>
>>>>>> in Scotland. Our farm neighbours used to notify us in advance.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> One of them (with his brother) shot 600
>>
>>>>>> rabbits on their land in one night , and covered the cost of the ammo by selling the corpses to a feed company.
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> 600 rabbits in a night seems a little excessive. That's aim, shoot,
>>
>>>>> retrieve, and bag every 45 seconds for 8 hours straight. And at some
>>
>>>>> point you have to reload and dump your bounty someplace as 600 rabbits
>>
>>>>> gets kinda heavy (that's almost a ton of rabbits).
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> It happens, whether you believe it or not.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Yeah, hunters are never known to exaggerate their catch.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who claimed otherwise?
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm sure it happened (in their minds only).
>>
>>
>>
>> Uh-huh.
>>
>>
>>
>> You are SO like sf. That special blend of ignorance and arrogance.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder if you're really the same person posting under two
>>
>> nyms.
>
> Whatever you think of Barbara, she's not one of Steve's socks. and whatever
> you think about Steve, that Mayo thing that stalks him is far worse. Barbara
> and Steve are real persons, as are you and I, and as unpleasant as it is to
> know that such a person exists, Julie is too. Mayo and medavis are pure scum.
>
> Why do I even bother?
>
> --Bryan
>
Because you're mentally deranged, duh.

On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 17:45:53 -0500, heyjoe >
wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:12:07 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> But here in Aus it's very, very easy
>> to pop more than one per minute in some places. I've seen the ground
>> crawling with them at night,
>
>Sportsmanship aside, maybe a punt gun is better for your purposes.
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun>

Wow. You could both shoot AND mince them up at the same time with that
thing.

On 2014-09-06, heyjoe > wrote:

> shells), when s rimfire rifle (.22 LR or .22 Magnum) would be cheaper
> per rabbit?

Apparently, you haven't attempted to purchased any rimfire ammo,
lately.

nb

On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 18:46:01 -0500, heyjoe >
wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:25:26 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> Wow. You could both shoot AND mince them up at the same time with that
>> thing.
>
>Am not sure I understand why you hunt rabbits.

To eat.

>For population control, a HUGE narrow bore shotgun makes sense to me.

Yep, in areas where they are very high in numbers, and in the right
kind of environment. Here, you don't see large groups of rabbits. We
really don't have an overpopulation problem with them, as such.

>For meat/market harvesting, why use expensive shells (.177 center fire
>shells), when s rimfire rifle (.22 LR or .22 Magnum) would be cheaper
>per rabbit?

I use a .22LR and a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits.

A .22 magnum doesnt make much sense here where I am for rabbits -
total overkill, plus a bullet costs approx. $1 each. But I do use a
..22 magnum for Roo and Wallaby - the ideal calibre for the job.

On 7 Sep 2014 00:00:18 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2014-09-06, heyjoe > wrote:
>
>> shells), when s rimfire rifle (.22 LR or .22 Magnum) would be cheaper
>> per rabbit?
>
>Apparently, you haven't attempted to purchased any rimfire ammo,
>lately.

..22 mag is now about AUD$24 for a box of 20, .22 about AUD$15 - I
think. I bought 15 'bricks' of .22 ammo a few years, luckily, when it
was much cheaper.

Ever get the feeling the ammo companies are taking advantage of gun
user's paranoia?

On 9/6/2014 6:03 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> A .22 magnum doesnt make much sense here where I am for rabbits -
> total overkill,


Not with jackrabbits.

On 9/6/2014 6:30 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> .22 mag is now about AUD$24 for a box of 20, .22 about AUD$15

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494

Ammo .22 Magnum Armscor 40 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point 50 Rounds Per Box
1875 Feet Per Second
$14.19

On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 20:31:47 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

>On 9/6/2014 6:03 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> A .22 magnum doesnt make much sense here where I am for rabbits -
>> total overkill,
>
>Not with jackrabbits.

Hares and Jackrabbits are one and the same? We have hares here,
although you only come across them by chance and *never* when you have
a rifle. I've been wanting to try hare for years now. IMO a .22 should
suffice, although a .22 magnum wouldn't be overkill either.

Speaking of hares, I couldnt resist buying this as a large print on
photo rag paper this afternoon. Photo taken here in Tasmania.
http://www.hostpic.org/images/1409071012190097.jpg

On 9/6/2014 10:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 20:31:47 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 9/6/2014 6:03 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> A .22 magnum doesnt make much sense here where I am for rabbits -
>>> total overkill,
>>
>> Not with jackrabbits.
>
> Hares and Jackrabbits are one and the same?

Good question.

Lepus both.

So, sort of.

> We have hares here,
> although you only come across them by chance and *never* when you have
> a rifle. I've been wanting to try hare for years now. IMO a .22 should
> suffice, although a .22 magnum wouldn't be overkill either.

See...

> Speaking of hares, I couldnt resist buying this as a large print on
> photo rag paper this afternoon. Photo taken here in Tasmania.
> http://www.hostpic.org/images/1409071012190097.jpg
>

OK, that's sizable, but is it a paddle-eared freak like this?

http://thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/ma...jackrabbit.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-tailed_jackrabbit

They'll eat the skirt off your mobile, mate!

On 2014-09-07, Jeßus > wrote:

> think. I bought 15 'bricks' of .22 ammo a few years, luckily, when it
> was much cheaper.

Goodonya, mate.

Bricks are a long lost item in US. No reputable gun shop has had a
brick for sale for at least 2 yrs, hereabouts. The local pawn shops
snag 'em and charge $70 for a brick that Walmart sells for $24.
Problem is, WW get about 4-6 bricks per month and they're gone in minutes.
Even good gun shops can't get LR rimfire ammo. I've still gotta
single brick I bought yrs ago, but have been unable to find .22
rimfire ammo for sale for at least 5 yrs!, here in the CO Rockies.

nb