On 8/27/2014 10:42 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-08-27, Becca EmaNymton > wrote:
>
>> it. My list would be squirrel, rabbit, rattlesnake, chitterlings,
>> buttermilk, turtle.
>
> Buttermilk? The rest I can see, but b-milk has me puzzled. It's more
> of a cooking method than a dish. I use buttermilk in a lotta dishes,
> for the better. Even if I gotta fake it, some lemon/vinegar in
> milk. Sure, as a rising element in baking. But also in meat
> marinades, etc.
>
> nb

We drank buttermilk, as a beverage. I will use it for cooking, I do not
have a problem with that.

Becca

On 8/27/2014 1:14 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:00:43 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Becca EmaNymton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/26/2014 5:56 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used to like rabbit when I was a kid, and venison, and gray squirrel,
>>>> and pheasant. but I don't like them anymore. Dunno why.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> There are foods I ate as a child, that I do not eat anymore, for several
>>> reasons, availability, my family did not like it, I no longer care for it.
>>> My list would be squirrel, rabbit, rattlesnake, chitterlings, buttermilk,
>>> turtle. If I went to your house and you cooked any of these, I would eat
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Becca
>>
>> I really wouldn't cook any of those if company was coming, well except for
>> the buttermilk in cooking.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> If I am going to fry chicken I soak it overnight in buttermilk. I
> have found (since it's the only thing I use buttermilk for) that I can
> buy a quart (smallest available) use what I want and freeze the rest
> in an ice cube tray until I need it.

Freezing buttermilk is a wonderful way to keep buttermilk on hand.

Becca

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:56:36 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:41:59 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:23:44 +1000, JohnJohn >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:30:23 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/24/2014 4:15 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:12:21 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I finally found some place to get rabbit to fix for dinner. I
>>>>>>>> found it at the Farmer's Market. There is a problem, however. A
>>>>>>>> rabbit (one rabbit) is $28.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow, that is expensive. They are expensive in the shops here as well,
>>>>>>> but around AUD$15, from memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought you lot just clubbed them to death...
>>>>>
>>>>>You shoot them and then you skin them by pulling their skin over their
>>>>>poophole. Or so it was explained to me.
>>>>
>>>> There's all sorts of ways. I start on the inside of a hind leg.
>>>
>>>Or the way the woman did it in Roger and Me.
>>
>> I don't bother hanging them like that, but that's basically how I
>> start to skin mine.
>
>I used to like rabbit when I was a kid, and venison, and gray squirrel, and
>pheasant. but I don't like them anymore. Dunno why.

Change of tastes after a few years of not eating rabbit, squirrel and
venison?

On 8/27/2014 2:23 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> I've never liked rabbits all that much; wild ones are covered with fleas
> as Janet says but look cute enough in the distance. When I was a kid,
> friends had pet rabbits but I never really wanted one since they didn't
> do much but sit around. Angora rabbits can look spectacular:
> http://thewondrous.com/12-photos-of-...angora-rabbit/

I was told by my parents my aunt had a pet rabbit that was kept indoors
and was "litterbox" trained. This would have been during the
Depression. Grandma wasn't the type to allow pets and well, heck, it
was the Depression, so I'm surprised the rabbit didn't wind up in the
stew pot instead. But no, my aunt confirmed it (she's 92 now): she had
an indoor pet rabbit.

Jill

On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:

> On 27 Aug 2014 15:45:14 GMT, notbob wrote:

>> On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:

>> Isn't cabrito baby goat?

> No.


Danged if I can find 'rabbit' anywhere on this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrito

nb

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
news
Cheri wrote in message:

>>I used to like rabbit when I was a kid, and venison, and gray squirrel,
>>and
>>pheasant. but I don't like them anymore. Dunno why.
>
> Change of tastes after a few years of not eating rabbit, squirrel and
> venison?

Probably.

Cheri

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:43:59 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-08-27 1:01 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> As a teenager, I shot rabbits but it was a nuisance finding the
>> buck-shot before cooking. Incidentally, the very last one I killed had
>> no shots in the carcase; it was frightened by the noise of the gun and
>> jumped over a cliff.
>>
>
>You should have used smaller shot. I have shot several rabbits and the
>shot barely penetrated the skin. I was surprised that it killed them.
>Maybe it frightened them to death.

I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
enough power over normal distances.

Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
will become patties and pies tomorrow..

On 27 Aug 2014 18:27:20 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2014-08-27, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> be when animals look cute. If seal pups looked like lobsters few people
>> would have problems sticking them into boiling water while they are
>> still alive.
>
>Likewise, cats!
>
>Lotta meat. Definitely not scarce.

I like eating pussy, but not that kind.

On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:

> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
> enough power over normal distances.
>
> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>

Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:50:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>> enough power over normal distances.
>>
>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>
>
>Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.

Sportsman? WTF has to do with anything... some sort of bullshit
romantic notion. I do this to eat, not to go out every few months
dressed out in the latest, trendiest camo gear with thousands of
dollars of yuppie gear to go 'hunting', only to go home to some sort
of hypocritical urban existence and feel like you're Grisly Adams.
Still, you had to come up with something, didn't you.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:11:06 +1000, JohnJohn >
wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:50:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>>> enough power over normal distances.
>>>
>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>
>>
>>Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>
>And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?

It made no sense, but then all he was looking for some excuse to
criticise.

On 8/27/2014 1:19 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> >Isn't cabrito baby goat?
> No.
>
> -sw

Liar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrito

Cabrito About this sound ka'brito (help·info)is roast goat kid. It is a
regional specialty of the city of Monterrey, Mexico, and the surrounding
state of Nuevo Leon, based on the Jewish cuisine of the founders of the
city. The name is also applied to a goat kid (not just roasted) in
Northeast Region, Brazil, especially in the Sertão Nordestino. The goat
being about 3 months old. It is slow-cooked over a charcoal fire for
about eight hours, turning it every 15-20 minutes.


Hint - 3 months old = baby = kid, = cabrito, hth, Yappy.

On 8/27/2014 11:23 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/27/2014 12:27 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/27/2014 11:42 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2014-08-27, Becca EmaNymton > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> it. My list would be squirrel, rabbit, rattlesnake, chitterlings,
>>>>> buttermilk, turtle.
>>>>
>>>> Buttermilk? The rest I can see, but b-milk has me puzzled. It's more
>>>> of a cooking method than a dish. I use buttermilk in a lotta dishes,
>>>> for the better. Even if I gotta fake it, some lemon/vinegar in
>>>> milk. Sure, as a rising element in baking. But also in meat
>>>> marinades, etc.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> Some people grew up drinking buttermilk. I can understand not wanting
>>> to drink buttermilk. I tried. Sure, I'll cook with it but I don't want
>>> a big tall glass of it. LOL
>>>
>>> I consider buttermilk an ingredient rather than a "cooking method".
>>>
>>> I used to buy Saco buttermilk powder many years ago to have on hand for
>>> baking. I think most of us know the vinegar/lemon juice trick. I don't
>>> find the need to use that one very often these days, either.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> As a teenager, I shot rabbits but it was a nuisance finding the buck-shot
>> before cooking. Incidentally, the very last one I killed had no shots in
>> the carcase; it was frightened by the noise of the gun and jumped over a
>> cliff.
>>
>
> buckshot for a rabbit? It would be a nuisance to find the rabbit meat.
>
>
..22 mag

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:31:55 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

>On 8/27/2014 11:23 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>> ...

>> buckshot for a rabbit? It would be a nuisance to find the rabbit meat.
>>
>>
>.22 mag

A .22 magnum... for a rabbit?
LOL. What do you use to shoot a cow, a Sherman tank?

On 8/27/2014 5:47 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On 27 Aug 2014 18:27:20 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-27, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> be when animals look cute. If seal pups looked like lobsters few people
>>> would have problems sticking them into boiling water while they are
>>> still alive.
>>
>> Likewise, cats!
>>
>> Lotta meat. Definitely not scarce.
>
> I like eating pussy, but not that kind.
>
Unlikely you get a real shot at either...

On 8/27/2014 5:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>> enough power over normal distances.
>>
>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>
>
> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>
Oz has some real winners, eh?

Good catch.

On 2014-08-27 20:13, Jeßus wrote:

>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>
>>>
>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>
>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>
> It made no sense, but then all he was looking for some excuse to
> criticise.
>
In most of the civilized world you are not allowed to hunt from vehicles
or to hunt at night.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:53:24 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-08-27 20:13, Jeßus wrote:
>
>>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>>
>>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>>
>> It made no sense, but then all he was looking for some excuse to
>> criticise.
>>
>In most of the civilized world you are not allowed to hunt from vehicles
>or to hunt at night.

Uh-huh...

On 8/27/2014 4:54 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote:

> Freezing buttermilk is a wonderful way to keep buttermilk on hand.
>
> Becca
>
>
I use 16 oz. in pancakes and never know what to do with the other half.
Never thought to freeze it. My solution is to buy dry powdered
buttermilk and it works well.

On 2014-08-27 21:07, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>>
> I use 16 oz. in pancakes and never know what to do with the other half.
> Never thought to freeze it. My solution is to buy dry powdered
> buttermilk and it works well.

That is what I started doing as soon as I realized I could buy powdered
buttermilk. It isn't cheap but I am not wasting it like I do with the
real stuff. I use a cup in a recipe and there is more than 3 cups left
that won't likely be used.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-08-27 21:07, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>>
>> I use 16 oz. in pancakes and never know what to do with the other half.
>> Never thought to freeze it. My solution is to buy dry powdered
>> buttermilk and it works well.
>
> That is what I started doing as soon as I realized I could buy powdered
> buttermilk. It isn't cheap but I am not wasting it like I do with the
> real stuff. I use a cup in a recipe and there is more than 3 cups left
> that won't likely be used.
>

why not just make an acceptable buttermilk substitute with plain milk and an
acid?

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:11:17 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2014-08-27 21:07, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> I use 16 oz. in pancakes and never know what to do with the other half.
>>> Never thought to freeze it. My solution is to buy dry powdered
>>> buttermilk and it works well.
>>
>> That is what I started doing as soon as I realized I could buy powdered
>> buttermilk. It isn't cheap but I am not wasting it like I do with the
>> real stuff. I use a cup in a recipe and there is more than 3 cups left
>> that won't likely be used.
>>
>
>why not just make an acceptable buttermilk substitute with plain milk and an
>acid?
>
IMO it is not the same. You can produce the chemical reaction but the
results are not as lofty or tender. I have a biscuit recipe that I
will not make unless I have the liquid buttermilk. I was and am a fan
of the Saco powdered buttermilk product, but the biscuits just aren't
the same and I haven't used the vinegar substitute in years. IMO, you
understand. We all have that we feel are adequate or necessary.
Janet US

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On 27 Aug 2014 22:59:46 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> On 27 Aug 2014 15:45:14 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>>> Isn't cabrito baby goat?
>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Danged if I can find 'rabbit' anywhere on this page:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrito
>
> If you would have asked "IS cabrito baby goat?" then I would have said
> Yes. But you asked "IS NOT cabrito baby goat?", so I had to negate
> the answer to accommodate your lack of proper English.
>
> -sw

rubbish.

On Monday, August 25, 2014 12:12:21 AM UTC+2, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> rabbit. It was sort of free (disregarding guns, ammo, clothing,
> vehicle). No one hunts rabbit here. My husband shot one shortly
> after we moved here; it was absolutely covered in fleas. That was the
> end of that endeavor.
> Janet US


How do you cook it? I have 2 stable methods - would be interesting to try new ways. One is fried on the pan in butter and garlic. The other is catalan rabbit stew (pretty much in paprika/tomato sauce).

I've had it at a restaurant breaded and pan fried. wasnt so fond of that.

Ed Pawlowski > wrote in news:-bidneeZSalSHWPOnZ2dnUU7-d-
:

> My solution is to buy dry powdered
> buttermilk and it works well.
>

That's what I use. So far, all i've used it for is making bread sometimes.
Seems to work for that.


--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:11:17 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2014-08-27 21:07, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I use 16 oz. in pancakes and never know what to do with the other half.
>>>> Never thought to freeze it. My solution is to buy dry powdered
>>>> buttermilk and it works well.
>>>
>>> That is what I started doing as soon as I realized I could buy powdered
>>> buttermilk. It isn't cheap but I am not wasting it like I do with the
>>> real stuff. I use a cup in a recipe and there is more than 3 cups left
>>> that won't likely be used.
>>>
>>
>>why not just make an acceptable buttermilk substitute with plain milk and
>>an
>>acid?
>>
> IMO it is not the same. You can produce the chemical reaction but the
> results are not as lofty or tender. I have a biscuit recipe that I
> will not make unless I have the liquid buttermilk. I was and am a fan
> of the Saco powdered buttermilk product, but the biscuits just aren't
> the same and I haven't used the vinegar substitute in years. IMO, you
> understand. We all have that we feel are adequate or necessary.
> Janet US

I don't understand your last two sentences, but thanks for your take on the
comparisons with real buttermilk. I have only used the fake in a pinch for
chicken.

On 8/27/2014 11:18 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 27 Aug 2014 22:59:46 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> On 27 Aug 2014 15:45:14 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>>> Isn't cabrito baby goat?
>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Danged if I can find 'rabbit' anywhere on this page:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrito
>
> If you would have asked "IS cabrito baby goat?" then I would have said

No, you lied and were caught, troll.

Enjoy the shame.

On 8/27/2014 6:11 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:50:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>>> enough power over normal distances.
>>>
>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>
>>
>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>
> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>

Sane and sporting hunters know that night shooting is a mug's game.

On 8/27/2014 7:47 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:53:24 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-27 20:13, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>>>
>>>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>>>
>>> It made no sense, but then all he was looking for some excuse to
>>> criticise.
>>>
>> In most of the civilized world you are not allowed to hunt from vehicles
>> or to hunt at night.
>
> That's an irrelevant detail as long as hunting is still allowed.
>
That's a pallid rationalization at best.

On 8/27/2014 11:31 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 27 Aug 2014 22:59:46 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27 Aug 2014 15:45:14 GMT, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 2014-08-27, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Isn't cabrito baby goat?
>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>> Danged if I can find 'rabbit' anywhere on this page:
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabrito
>>
>> If you would have asked "IS cabrito baby goat?" then I would have said
>> Yes. But you asked "IS NOT cabrito baby goat?", so I had to negate
>> the answer to accommodate your lack of proper English.
>>
>> -sw
>
> rubbish.
>
>
He was caught lying and now backpedals like the yappy troll that he is.

On 8/27/2014 6:01 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:50:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>>> enough power over normal distances.
>>>
>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>
>>
>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>
> Sportsman? WTF has to do with anything... some sort of bullshit
> romantic notion.

No, it's a tradition based on accepted and safe means of harvest of game.

> I do this to eat, not to go out every few months
> dressed out in the latest, trendiest camo gear with thousands of
> dollars of yuppie gear to go 'hunting', only to go home to some sort
> of hypocritical urban existence and feel like you're Grisly[sic] Adams.

Grizzly Admas, a factional TV and film character, lived with a
quasi-tame bear and was rarely seen harvesting his own meat.

> Still, you had to come up with something, didn't you.

And youi felt compelled to defend the indefensible, again.

On 8/27/2014 6:37 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:31:55 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2014 11:23 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>>> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>
>>> buckshot for a rabbit? It would be a nuisance to find the rabbit meat.
>>>
>>>
>> .22 mag
>
> A .22 magnum... for a rabbit?

Mmm...distance and head shot.

> LOL. What do you use to shoot a cow, a Sherman tank?

I honestly have never shot a crow nor a magpie.

Why would one want to do that?

On 8/27/2014 6:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-08-27 20:13, Jeßus wrote:
>
>>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>>
>>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>>
>> It made no sense, but then all he was looking for some excuse to
>> criticise.
>>
> In most of the civilized world you are not allowed to hunt from vehicles
> or to hunt at night.

Correct.

On 8/28/2014 11:25 AM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:51:29 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2014 7:47 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:53:24 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-08-27 20:13, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>>>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>>>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>>>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>>>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>>>>>
>>>>> It made no sense, but then all he was looking for some excuse to
>>>>> criticise.
>>>>>
>>>> In most of the civilized world you are not allowed to hunt from vehicles
>>>> or to hunt at night.
>>>
>>> That's an irrelevant detail as long as hunting is still allowed.
>>>
>> That's a pallid rationalization at best.
>
> Another fine sentence offered to you by Mayo.
>
Grammatical condiments dispensed free of any fees or contractual
encumbrances, yes...

On 8/28/2014 11:26 AM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:50:32 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2014 6:11 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:50:29 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>>>>> enough power over normal distances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>>
>>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>>>
>>
>> Sane and sporting hunters know that night shooting is a mug's game.
>
> It would only be a sport if you'd arm those animals first.
>
Point.

Teeth and claws don't usually count..

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:35:43 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:11:17 -0700, "Pico Rico"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 2014-08-27 21:07, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I use 16 oz. in pancakes and never know what to do with the other half.
>>>>> Never thought to freeze it. My solution is to buy dry powdered
>>>>> buttermilk and it works well.
>>>>
>>>> That is what I started doing as soon as I realized I could buy powdered
>>>> buttermilk. It isn't cheap but I am not wasting it like I do with the
>>>> real stuff. I use a cup in a recipe and there is more than 3 cups left
>>>> that won't likely be used.
>>>>
>>>
>>>why not just make an acceptable buttermilk substitute with plain milk and
>>>an
>>>acid?
>>>
>> IMO it is not the same. You can produce the chemical reaction but the
>> results are not as lofty or tender. I have a biscuit recipe that I
>> will not make unless I have the liquid buttermilk. I was and am a fan
>> of the Saco powdered buttermilk product, but the biscuits just aren't
>> the same and I haven't used the vinegar substitute in years. IMO, you
>> understand. We all have that we feel are adequate or necessary.
>> Janet US
>
>I don't understand your last two sentences, but thanks for your take on the
>comparisons with real buttermilk. I have only used the fake in a pinch for
>chicken.
>
I meant that it is my opinion only. And that perhaps I discern
something in the vinegar product that I am not willing to go with and
therefore will go out of my way to use real buttermilk. From
observation of this group I think the willingness to put up with
something that others will not shows up here frequently.
Janet US

On 8/28/2014 12:27 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:20:32 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2014 6:37 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:31:55 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/27/2014 11:23 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>>>>> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> buckshot for a rabbit? It would be a nuisance to find the rabbit meat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> .22 mag
>>>
>>> A .22 magnum... for a rabbit?
>>
>> Mmm...distance and head shot.
>>
>>> LOL. What do you use to shoot a cow, a Sherman tank?
>>
>> I honestly have never shot a crow nor a magpie.
>>
>> Why would one want to do that?
>
> For the great sport? You vs. the birdie! Adrenalin! Drumroll! Who's
> going to come out alive!
>

I rather like both species, sorry, no go.

Now garden-eating rabbits, that's another story.

On 8/28/2014 12:37 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:35:56 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/28/2014 11:26 AM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:50:32 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/27/2014 6:11 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:50:29 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>>>>>>> enough power over normal distances.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sane and sporting hunters know that night shooting is a mug's game.
>>>
>>> It would only be a sport if you'd arm those animals first.
>>>
>> Point.
>>
>> Teeth and claws don't usually count..
>
> Deer, rabbits, birds? Or are you talking safari and near extinct
> animals?
>
A wounded deer can turn and gore one.

Rabbits, mostly disease.

Birds - not my targets.

I've never been on a safari and would hope to keep that record intact.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:41:46 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> I meant that it is my opinion only. And that perhaps I discern
> something in the vinegar product that I am not willing to go with and
> therefore will go out of my way to use real buttermilk. From
> observation of this group I think the willingness to put up with
> something that others will not shows up here frequently.

Usually the loudest are basing it on opinion only, not actual BTDT
experience. If it is experience based, their experience is decades
old and viewed through the mists of time.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 8/28/2014 12:57 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:47:37 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/28/2014 12:37 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:35:56 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/28/2014 11:26 AM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:50:32 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/27/2014 6:11 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:50:29 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2014-08-27 7:44 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I normally use a .177 high powered air rifle for rabbits. More than
>>>>>>>>> enough power over normal distances.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Two nights ago I bagged an eastern grey kangaroo from about 180 yards,
>>>>>>>>> with a .22 magnum, from the back of a pickup with only a very old
>>>>>>>>> spotlight for illumination. I was pretty pleased with that, smacked
>>>>>>>>> him right in the side of the head. He and his other fellow travellers
>>>>>>>>> will become patties and pies tomorrow..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shooting at night and using lights? You are a hell of a sportsman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you're a hero because you shoot them in broad daylight?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sane and sporting hunters know that night shooting is a mug's game.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would only be a sport if you'd arm those animals first.
>>>>>
>>>> Point.
>>>>
>>>> Teeth and claws don't usually count..
>>>
>>> Deer, rabbits, birds? Or are you talking safari and near extinct
>>> animals?
>>>
>> A wounded deer can turn and gore one.
>
> That's part of the problem with hunting. Half drunk Rambo wannabees
> running through the woods maiming animals.
>
No, it's part of the problem with not getting a perfect shot each time.

I don't believe alcohol is allowed in any sanctioned firearms event or
legal hunt.