I can now watch a cpl seasons worth of this TV program. Not as bad as
I once thought. Lotta claptrap, but occssionally some good ideas.

I watched the ep which includes both shepards pie and DIY corned beef.
Good tips I'm gonna give a try. Also watched the Herbed Pan Fried
Steak ep. The "semi demi glaze" recipe was particularly interesting.

Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
ignored, now that I understand his agenda.

nb

On Friday, May 30, 2014 9:02:21 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>
> I can now watch a cpl seasons worth of this TV program.
> Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
> ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
>
>
> nb
>
>
Really? What is his 'agenda'?? He nor anyone else on his show annoy me, but I'm not watching these shows and looking for someone that might get on my nerves.

" wrote:
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 9:02:21 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> >
> > I can now watch a cpl seasons worth of this TV program.
> > Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
> > ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
> >
> >
> > nb
> >
> >
> Really? What is his 'agenda'?? He nor anyone else on his show annoy me, but I'm not watching these shows and looking for someone that might get on my nerves.

Imo, America's Test Kitchen and Cook's County are 2 of the few good
cooking shows left on television. Sadly, I usually miss the shows. I
rarely watch tv that early on Saturday mornings.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> " wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, May 30, 2014 9:02:21 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> >
>> > I can now watch a cpl seasons worth of this TV program.
>> > Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
>> > ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
>> >
>> >
>> > nb
>> >
>> >
>> Really? What is his 'agenda'?? He nor anyone else on his show annoy me,
>> but I'm not watching these shows and looking for someone that might get
>> on my nerves.
>
> Imo, America's Test Kitchen and Cook's County are 2 of the few good
> cooking shows left on television. Sadly, I usually miss the shows. I
> rarely watch tv that early on Saturday mornings.

They come on here late at night. Likely reruns.

On Friday, May 30, 2014 5:07:45 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Imo, America's Test Kitchen and Cook's County are 2 of the few good
> cooking shows left on television. Sadly, I usually miss the shows. I
> rarely watch tv that early on Saturday mornings.
>
>
> G.
>
>
Do you have a DVR? That's how I record their shows that air here on Saturday while I'm at work.

" wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >
> > Imo, America's Test Kitchen and Cook's County are 2 of the few good
> > cooking shows left on television. Sadly, I usually miss the shows. I
> > rarely watch tv that early on Saturday mornings.


> Do you have a DVR? That's how I record their shows that air here on Saturday while I'm at work.

I only have a DVD player. It doesn't record.

I *do* still have my old VCR still hooked up but it froze up do to
sitting unused for a year or two. I almost threw it out but have held
off thinking there might be some way to get it working again.

It worked fine the last time I used it. Then I went to use it the next
time after about a year or more and it didn't work. Some wheel or
whatever has stuck. Put in a tape and it tries to play but then it
ejects it immediately.

Anyone knowledgeable with electronics have any ideas what I need to
move/oil or should I just throw it out?

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> " wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >
>> > Imo, America's Test Kitchen and Cook's County are 2 of the few good
>> > cooking shows left on television. Sadly, I usually miss the shows. I
>> > rarely watch tv that early on Saturday mornings.
>
>
>> Do you have a DVR? That's how I record their shows that air here on
>> Saturday while I'm at work.
>
> I only have a DVD player. It doesn't record.
>
> I *do* still have my old VCR still hooked up but it froze up do to
> sitting unused for a year or two. I almost threw it out but have held
> off thinking there might be some way to get it working again.
>
> It worked fine the last time I used it. Then I went to use it the next
> time after about a year or more and it didn't work. Some wheel or
> whatever has stuck. Put in a tape and it tries to play but then it
> ejects it immediately.
>
> Anyone knowledgeable with electronics have any ideas what I need to
> move/oil or should I just throw it out?
>
> G.

Maybe this will help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo_d...?v=Mo_dA-k5bIw

On 6/1/2014 5:55 AM, Gary wrote:

> I *do* still have my old VCR still hooked up but it froze up do to
> sitting unused for a year or two. I almost threw it out but have held
> off thinking there might be some way to get it working again.
>
> It worked fine the last time I used it. Then I went to use it the next
> time after about a year or more and it didn't work. Some wheel or
> whatever has stuck. Put in a tape and it tries to play but then it
> ejects it immediately.
>
> Anyone knowledgeable with electronics have any ideas what I need to
> move/oil or should I just throw it out?
>
> G.
>

You could probably find one for $5 someplace or ask friends if they
have one to give you. Had you asked a couple of months ago I'd have
given you one.

On 5/31/2014 11:55 PM, Gary wrote:
> " wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> Imo, America's Test Kitchen and Cook's County are 2 of the few good
>>> cooking shows left on television. Sadly, I usually miss the shows. I
>>> rarely watch tv that early on Saturday mornings.
>
>
>> Do you have a DVR? That's how I record their shows that air here on Saturday while I'm at work.
>
> I only have a DVD player. It doesn't record.
>
> I *do* still have my old VCR still hooked up but it froze up do to
> sitting unused for a year or two. I almost threw it out but have held
> off thinking there might be some way to get it working again.
>
> It worked fine the last time I used it. Then I went to use it the next
> time after about a year or more and it didn't work. Some wheel or
> whatever has stuck. Put in a tape and it tries to play but then it
> ejects it immediately.
>
> Anyone knowledgeable with electronics have any ideas what I need to
> move/oil or should I just throw it out?
>
> G.
>

My guess is that a rubber belt needs to be replaced. Open the VCR and
look for a loose or broken belt. You might be able to reuse the existing
belt by cleaning it to remove any glazing. I'd use MEK for that. If you
need to replace it, finding the correct one could be a problem. Mostly,
I used to use one that looked about the right size. Other than that,
servicing the VCR would be cleaning the heads and greasing the moving
metal parts. There's probably a ton of info on how to service a VCR
online. Good luck.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 May 2014 07:35:04 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, May 30, 2014 9:02:21 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>> I can now watch a cpl seasons worth of this TV program.
>>> Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
>>> ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
>>>
>> Really? What is his 'agenda'??
>
> Don't get on any of his mailing lists. He commands a very aggressive
> marketing company.
>
I made that mistake. I went there looking for what was a free recipe. I
never got the recipe. They kept trying to get me to sign up for a "free"
trial. Not sure how long that trial was but then I'd have to pay after. I
am constantly getting emails from him trying to sell me stuff.

On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:57:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I made that mistake. I went there looking for what was a free recipe. I
> never got the recipe. They kept trying to get me to sign up for a "free"
> trial. Not sure how long that trial was but then I'd have to pay after. I
> am constantly getting emails from him trying to sell me stuff.

The only free recipes they give you are from the current season and
you know it's from a past season when that happens. When it does,
move on and find a food blogger who has tried the recipe - you can
usually find one that's verbatim and if it's not, they tell you what
they did differently. At least that's been my experience so far.


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Good Memories.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:57:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I made that mistake. I went there looking for what was a free recipe. I
>> never got the recipe. They kept trying to get me to sign up for a "free"
>> trial. Not sure how long that trial was but then I'd have to pay after.
>> I
>> am constantly getting emails from him trying to sell me stuff.
>
> The only free recipes they give you are from the current season and
> you know it's from a past season when that happens. When it does,
> move on and find a food blogger who has tried the recipe - you can
> usually find one that's verbatim and if it's not, they tell you what
> they did differently. At least that's been my experience so far.

Not sure if it was current or not but I could not seem to get to it. It was
there though.

On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:52:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:57:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I made that mistake. I went there looking for what was a free recipe. I
> >> never got the recipe. They kept trying to get me to sign up for a "free"
> >> trial. Not sure how long that trial was but then I'd have to pay after.
> >> I
> >> am constantly getting emails from him trying to sell me stuff.
> >
> > The only free recipes they give you are from the current season and
> > you know it's from a past season when that happens. When it does,
> > move on and find a food blogger who has tried the recipe - you can
> > usually find one that's verbatim and if it's not, they tell you what
> > they did differently. At least that's been my experience so far.
>
> Not sure if it was current or not but I could not seem to get to it. It was
> there though.

Julie. I told you that you *know* it's not the current year when
that happens. They don't tell you that's WHY it happens, it just does
- and then it's up to you to figure it out.


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On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:57:05 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> > Don't get on any of his mailing lists. He commands a very aggressive
> > marketing company.
>
>
> I made that mistake. I went there looking for what was a free recipe. I
> never got the recipe. They kept trying to get me to sign up for a "free"
> trial. Not sure how long that trial was but then I'd have to pay after. I
> am constantly getting emails from him trying to sell me stuff.
>
>
I was on his free trial mailing list and enjoyed accessing his site. After the trial subscription ran out I got a few, no more than 5 or 6, wanting me to join for a fee but they stopped after that. I get a newsletter about once every 6 weeks from him.


And what's with that silly statement you made about tasting the yucky food as well as the good? Nobody is made to taste anything disagreeable. I don't think you've ever seen the show but you must be in the middle of every discussion even though it makes you look as stupid as ever.

> wrote in message
...
On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:57:05 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> > Don't get on any of his mailing lists. He commands a very aggressive
> > marketing company.
>
>
> I made that mistake. I went there looking for what was a free recipe. I
> never got the recipe. They kept trying to get me to sign up for a "free"
> trial. Not sure how long that trial was but then I'd have to pay after.
> I
> am constantly getting emails from him trying to sell me stuff.
>
>
I was on his free trial mailing list and enjoyed accessing his site. After
the trial subscription ran out I got a few, no more than 5 or 6, wanting me
to join for a fee but they stopped after that. I get a newsletter about
once every 6 weeks from him.


And what's with that silly statement you made about tasting the yucky food
as well as the good? Nobody is made to taste anything disagreeable. I don't
think you've ever seen the show but you must be in the middle of every
discussion even though it makes you look as stupid as ever.

---

Have you not seen the part of the show where he taste tests? Things I can
remember were mustard, tortillas, ice cream, macaroni and cheese... I know
there were a lot more. It's a different food every week and he always has
to do it. There aren't always bad ones on there but there usually is at
least one.

Now who looks stupid?

On Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:54:54 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
>
> And what's with that silly statement you made about tasting the yucky food
> as well as the good? Nobody is made to taste anything disagreeable. I don't
> think you've ever seen the show but you must be in the middle of every
> discussion even though it makes you look as stupid as ever.
>
>
> Have you not seen the part of the show where he taste tests? Things I can
> remember were mustard, tortillas, ice cream, macaroni and cheese... I know
> there were a lot more. It's a different food every week and he always has
> to do it. There aren't always bad ones on there but there usually is at
> least one.
>
> Now who looks stupid?
>
>
You sound as stupid as ever. He is tasting products on the market to determine which has the better tasting/texture/and value. He wouldn't do it if he didn't want to but you make it sound like he is be forced to do this. And if you paid attention the audience also tasted the same products and gave their opinion which was the better of the choices offered.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 05:51:23 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>> And what's with that silly statement you made about tasting the
>> yucky food as well as the good? Nobody is made to taste anything
>> disagreeable. I don't think you've ever seen the show but you must
>> be in the middle of every discussion even though it makes you look
>> as stupid as ever.
>
> The more attention she gets, the threads she injects herself into.
> Most of the time to offer nothing of substance.
>
> ObFood: There is one Walmart I actually like - Their Pretzel Bakes
> from the deli section. Their Italian meat and cheese is pretty darn
> good.
>
> -sw

Apparently you haven't seen the taste testing part of the show either. He's
always the one who has to do it.

On 6/1/2014 2:51 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:55:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 31 May 2014 05:51:23 -0700 (PDT),
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And what's with that silly statement you made about tasting the
>>>> yucky food as well as the good? Nobody is made to taste anything
>>>> disagreeable. I don't think you've ever seen the show but you must
>>>> be in the middle of every discussion even though it makes you look
>>>> as stupid as ever.
>>>
>>> The more attention she gets, the threads she injects herself into.
>>> Most of the time to offer nothing of substance.
>>>
>>> ObFood: There is one Walmart I actually like - Their Pretzel Bakes
>>> from the deli section. Their Italian meat and cheese is pretty darn
>>> good.
>>
>> Apparently you haven't seen the taste testing part of the show either. He's
>> always the one who has to do it.
>
> <yawn> Yeah - I've never seen ATK or CC. Even though I happen to be
> watching it right now (Wild Rice tasting episode).
>
> -sw
>

I saw that tonight too. I found it interesting in that it offered the
first explanation as to why a recipe would call for baking soda when it
had no apparent application to the taste of the result. My buddy Harold
McGee would have been proud.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:55:37 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 31 May 2014 05:51:23 -0700 (PDT),
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And what's with that silly statement you made about tasting the
>>>> yucky food as well as the good? Nobody is made to taste anything
>>>> disagreeable. I don't think you've ever seen the show but you must
>>>> be in the middle of every discussion even though it makes you look
>>>> as stupid as ever.
>>>
>>> The more attention she gets, the threads she injects herself into.
>>> Most of the time to offer nothing of substance.
>>>
>>> ObFood: There is one Walmart I actually like - Their Pretzel Bakes
>>> from the deli section. Their Italian meat and cheese is pretty darn
>>> good.
>>
>> Apparently you haven't seen the taste testing part of the show either.
>> He's
>> always the one who has to do it.
>
> <yawn> Yeah - I've never seen ATK or CC. Even though I happen to be
> watching it right now (Wild Rice tasting episode).

Good! You can see him eat the rice then. IIRC none of that was really bad
but the heirloom stuff wasn't as tasty as the other.

On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:57:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
> >
> I made that mistake. I went there looking for what was a free recipe. I
> never got the recipe. They kept trying to get me to sign up for a "free"
> trial. Not sure how long that trial was but then I'd have to pay after. I
> am constantly getting emails from him trying to sell me stuff.

Not me and I signed up for viewing the current year's worth of
television recipes.

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On 30 May 2014 14:02:21 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> I can now watch a cpl seasons worth of this TV program.
<snip>
> The "semi demi glaze" recipe was particularly interesting.

I didn't see their recipe (I'm signed up for the freebie looks, so I
guess it's not a show from a current season), but I like Julia Child's
- I bet it's another good use for the slow cooker, with the lid off.
Mushrooms and tomato would make it even yummier.

Semi-Demi-Glace

Makes: 1 cup

2 quarts homemade beef stock
2 tablespoons red wine (optional)


Directions:

1. In a large saucepan, bring stock to a boil.

2. Turn heat down to the lowest heat setting and allow to simmer for
several hours until stock has reduced to 1-2 cups (remove any scum
that rises to the surface as it simmers).

3. It has reduced to demi-glace if it thoroughly coats the back of
the spoon.

>
> Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
> ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
>
What do you think his agenda is? I see Bow Tie Man playing the same
role on ATK that Jacques Pepin's daughter played when she was on JP's
show. They are rather harmless and the voice of those who don't have
much kitchen experience. I don't find that annoying, but apparently
some who claim to have experience in a professional kitchen do.


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Good Memories.

sf wrote:
> On 30 May 2014 14:02:21 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>> Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
>> ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
>>
> What do you think his agenda is? I see Bow Tie Man playing the same
> role on ATK that Jacques Pepin's daughter played when she was on JP's
> show. They are rather harmless and the voice of those who don't have
> much kitchen experience. I don't find that annoying, but apparently
> some who claim to have experience in a professional kitchen do.

to me he seems constantly slightly annoyed, like a cat that just got
hit with a little spritz of water

On Fri, 30 May 2014 17:21:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On 30 May 2014 14:02:21 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> >> Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
> >> ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
> >>
> > What do you think his agenda is? I see Bow Tie Man playing the same
> > role on ATK that Jacques Pepin's daughter played when she was on JP's
> > show. They are rather harmless and the voice of those who don't have
> > much kitchen experience. I don't find that annoying, but apparently
> > some who claim to have experience in a professional kitchen do.
>
> to me he seems constantly slightly annoyed, like a cat that just got
> hit with a little spritz of water

I think it's the pitch of his voice that annoys you.


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"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> On 30 May 2014 14:02:21 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>> Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
>>> ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
>>>
>> What do you think his agenda is? I see Bow Tie Man playing the same
>> role on ATK that Jacques Pepin's daughter played when she was on JP's
>> show. They are rather harmless and the voice of those who don't have
>> much kitchen experience. I don't find that annoying, but apparently
>> some who claim to have experience in a professional kitchen do.
>
> to me he seems constantly slightly annoyed, like a cat that just got
> hit with a little spritz of water

You would be too if they made you taste the yucky food as well as the good.

On 2014-05-30, tert in seattle > wrote:

>> What do you think his agenda is?

I know what his agenda is. It's to have a successful publishing
empire. PBTM is a journalism major. He got into cooking cuz it has a
huge audience. He admitted it in an online interview, which has since
mysteriously disappeared. I can't fault the man for fulfilling his
dreams, even if I find his magazines to be trite and mostly useless.
All you gotta do is watch the guy to see it's obvious he's not a chef
or even wants to be. I'm no saying he doesn't enjoy cooking, but he'd
rather be the big cheese than be an expert on the subject.

> to me he seems constantly slightly annoyed, like a cat that just got
> hit with a little spritz of water

Great discription.

nb

On Friday, May 30, 2014 5:01:34 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>
> On 2014-05-30, tert in seattle > wrote:
>
> >> What do you think his agenda is?
>
> I know what his agenda is. It's to have a successful publishing
> empire. PBTM is a journalism major. He got into cooking cuz it has a
> huge audience. He admitted it in an online interview, which has since
> mysteriously disappeared. I can't fault the man for fulfilling his
> dreams, even if I find his magazines to be trite and mostly useless.
> All you gotta do is watch the guy to see it's obvious he's not a chef
> or even wants to be. I'm no saying he doesn't enjoy cooking, but he'd
> rather be the big cheese than be an expert on the subject.
>
>
> nb
>
>
If he annoyed me as much as you are whining about him I wouldn't watch him for all the pie crusts in the world. And if his magazine is trite and useless why look at them?? It's just like a car wreck for you, isn't it?? You know you shouldn't look but you just can't tear yourself away. You saw you can't fault the guy for building a publishing empire but then bitch about him for doing it.

On Friday, May 30, 2014 5:01:34 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>
> On 2014-05-30, tert in seattle > wrote:
>
> >> What do you think his agenda is?
>
>
> I know what his agenda is. It's to have a successful publishing
> empire. PBTM is a journalism major. He got into cooking cuz it has a
> huge audience. He admitted it in an online interview, which has since
> mysteriously disappeared. I can't fault the man for fulfilling his
> dreams, even if I find his magazines to be trite and mostly useless.
> All you gotta do is watch the guy to see it's obvious he's not a chef
> or even wants to be. I'm no saying he doesn't enjoy cooking, but he'd
> rather be the big cheese than be an expert on the subject.
>
> nb
>
>
If he annoyed me as much as you are whining about him I wouldn't watch him for all the pie crusts in the world. And if his magazine is trite and useless why look at them?? It's just like a car wreck for you, isn't it? You know you shouldn't look but you just can't tear yourself away.

You say you can't fault the guy for building a publishing empire but then bitch about him for doing it.

On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:02:21 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
> I can now watch a cpl seasons worth of this TV program. Not as bad as
>
> I once thought. Lotta claptrap, but occssionally some good ideas.
>
>
>
> I watched the ep which includes both shepards pie and DIY corned beef.
>
> Good tips I'm gonna give a try. Also watched the Herbed Pan Fried
>
> Steak ep. The "semi demi glaze" recipe was particularly interesting.
>
>
>
> Ol' Pompous Bow-Tie Man is still a lingering annoyance, but easily
>
> ignored, now that I understand his agenda.
>
>
>
> nb

All the cooks on the show are pretty good. Especially the blond eye candy. I've never found any of their shows lacking substance. So the bow tie guy is into marketing. Big deal.

On Sat, 31 May 2014 06:07:54 -0700 (PDT), A Goose in Love
> wrote:

> I've never found any of their shows lacking substance. So the bow tie guy is into marketing. Big deal.

Agree.


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