On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive. They
> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.


They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:56:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive. They
>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>
>
>They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
>factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
>keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.

And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
change channels you had to get up off your ass.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:56:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive. They
>>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>>
>>
>>They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
>>factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
>>keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.
>
> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
> change channels you had to get up off your ass.

That's why we had children. :-)

Cheri

On 4/12/2014 8:33 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:56:55 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive. They
>>>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>>>
>>>
>>> They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
>>> factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
>>> keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.
>>
>> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
>> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
>> change channels you had to get up off your ass.
>
> That's why we had children. :-)
>
> Cheri

LOL! Not having a remote wasn't a great hardship.

Jill

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:33:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

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>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:56:55 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive. They
>>>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>>>
>>>
>>>They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
>>>factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
>>>keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.
>>
>> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
>> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
>> change channels you had to get up off your ass.
>
>That's why we had children. :-)
>
>Cheri

Back then children were in bed by 8 PM or earlier, and they didn't
dare give parents any lip for fear of a good lickin'.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:33:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:56:55 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive.
>>>>> They
>>>>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
>>>>factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
>>>>keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.
>>>
>>> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
>>> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
>>> change channels you had to get up off your ass.
>>
>>That's why we had children. :-)
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Back then children were in bed by 8 PM or earlier, and they didn't
> dare give parents any lip for fear of a good lickin'.

They were in bed early because they were worn out from running back and
forth changing those channels. ;-)

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote:

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>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:33:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:56:55 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
>>>>>factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
>>>>>keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.
>>>>
>>>> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
>>>> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
>>>> change channels you had to get up off your ass.
>>>
>>>That's why we had children. :-)
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> Back then children were in bed by 8 PM or earlier, and they didn't
>> dare give parents any lip for fear of a good lickin'.
>
>They were in bed early because they were worn out from running back and
>forth changing those channels. ;-)
>
>Cheri

Actually kids were not permitted to change channels, TVs were much too
expensive to let kids fiddle with the dials... in most homes "The
Wife" wasn't permitted to touch the TV... Archie would call you a
dingbat and you'd know to tick a lip. Ahahahahaha. . . .

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...

> Actually kids were not permitted to change channels, TVs were much too
> expensive to let kids fiddle with the dials... in most homes "The
> Wife" wasn't permitted to touch the TV... Archie would call you a
> dingbat and you'd know to tick a lip. Ahahahahaha. . . .

My kids were permitted to change the channels, just not choose which
channels to watch, of course back then there were just a few VHF and UHF
channels and sometimes they had to hold the rabbit ears. ;-)

Cheri

On 4/12/2014 9:12 PM, Cheri wrote:
> They were in bed early because they were worn out from running back and
> forth changing those channels. ;-)
>
> Cheri

All three network channels? :-D Don't forget kids also got worn out
adjusting the rabbit ears on top of the set. LOL

I *do* appreciate the clarity of having a hi-def TV these days

Jill

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:33:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:56:55 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is
>>>>>without
>>>>>factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
>>>>>keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.
>>>>
>>>> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
>>>> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
>>>> change channels you had to get up off your ass.
>>>
>>>That's why we had children. :-)
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> Back then children were in bed by 8 PM or earlier, and they didn't
>> dare give parents any lip for fear of a good lickin'.
>
> They were in bed early because they were worn out from running back and
> forth changing those channels. ;-)

lol
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On 4/12/2014 6:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
> change channels you had to get up off your ass.

That was a super chore! Flipping through all 5 channels or
whatever it was.

Wasn't really much of a problem deciding on one show.

nancy

On 4/12/2014 10:04 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/12/2014 6:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
>> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
>> change channels you had to get up off your ass.
>
> That was a super chore! Flipping through all 5 channels or
> whatever it was.
>
> Wasn't really much of a problem deciding on one show.
>
> nancy
>
You had FIVE channels? Wow! We only had CBS, NBC, and ABC. I'm not
sure there was a PBS station where I lived in those days.

Jill

On 4/12/2014 10:51 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/12/2014 10:04 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> That was a super chore! Flipping through all 5 channels or
>> whatever it was.
>>
>> Wasn't really much of a problem deciding on one show.

> You had FIVE channels? Wow! We only had CBS, NBC, and ABC. I'm not
> sure there was a PBS station where I lived in those days.

It's all I could think of, you had 2, 4, 7, 11 and 13. And I don't
remember what 11 was, if we had it.

nancy

On 4/12/2014 11:28 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/12/2014 10:51 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/12/2014 10:04 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> That was a super chore! Flipping through all 5 channels or
>>> whatever it was.
>>>
>>> Wasn't really much of a problem deciding on one show.
>
>> You had FIVE channels? Wow! We only had CBS, NBC, and ABC. I'm not
>> sure there was a PBS station where I lived in those days.
>
> It's all I could think of, you had 2, 4, 7, 11 and 13. And I don't
> remember what 11 was, if we had it.
>
Northern NJ? I think 11 was WPIX, and 5 was the Dumont channel.

On 4/13/2014 7:28 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 4/12/2014 11:28 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> It's all I could think of, you had 2, 4, 7, 11 and 13. And I don't
>> remember what 11 was, if we had it.
>>
> Northern NJ? I think 11 was WPIX,

That's right! Of course.

> and 5 was the Dumont channel.

That name doesn't ring a bell, but that doesn't mean much.

We had the one tv, and I don't remember a lot of conflicts
over what to watch.

nancy

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 23:28:56 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 4/12/2014 10:51 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/12/2014 10:04 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> That was a super chore! Flipping through all 5 channels or
>>> whatever it was.
>>>
>>> Wasn't really much of a problem deciding on one show.
>
>> You had FIVE channels? Wow! We only had CBS, NBC, and ABC. I'm not
>> sure there was a PBS station where I lived in those days.
>
>It's all I could think of, you had 2, 4, 7, 11 and 13. And I don't
>remember what 11 was, if we had it.
>
>nancy

There was channel 5 and 9 too. But location affected what channels
one could receive... in NYC one could receive all channels with a good
roof antenna.

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 22:04:04 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 4/12/2014 6:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> And very often you needed to call a TV repairman, who most times would
>> also sell you a new tuner... there was no remote back then... to
>> change channels you had to get up off your ass.
>
>That was a super chore! Flipping through all 5 channels or
>whatever it was.
>
>Wasn't really much of a problem deciding on one show.
>
>nancy

And between 11:30 PM and 6:00 AM all you could watch was a pattern and
hear it buzzzzzz. Our first TV was in 1948, an 11" Dumont in a nice
furniture console, they were very expensive, probably well over $500.
Looked something like this:
http://www.antiqueradio.org/art/DuMo...shedMedium.jpg

On 4/13/2014 12:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> And between 11:30 PM and 6:00 AM all you could watch was a pattern and
> hear it buzzzzzz.

Don't forget the test pattern! Even when I was a teenager (no cable in
our area) the stations went off the air at midnight. In the US they'd
play the Star Spangled Banner then, gone until the next morning.

> Our first TV was in 1948, an 11" Dumont in a nice
> furniture console, they were very expensive, probably well over $500.
> Looked something like this:
> http://www.antiqueradio.org/art/DuMo...shedMedium.jpg
>
My parents had a console in the early 1960's. It had a record player at
one end and a black & white TV at the other.

Jill

On 2014-04-13, jmcquown > wrote:

> Don't forget the test pattern! Even when I was a teenager (no cable in

Kids. tsk tsk....

We had our first TV by '52. Biggest of its day, despite being called
a portable. Musta been 24+" and sat on a swivel stand. Probably
weighed about 40-50 lbs including its wood cabinet. I remember the TV
repairman hadda come out about once a yr to replace a burnt out tube.

> My parents had a console in the early 1960's. It had a record player at
> one end and a black & white TV at the other.

By '62, my step father was DIY'ing a Heathkit color TV. Got it all
assembled, but it didn't work right. A couple days in the repair shop
fixed that and we had glorious color.

We never did have a console system. While my mom was divorced, she
dated a musician who had a combo hifi/music store. He warned her
against consoles and turned her onto stereo components. We had one of
the first stereo component (separate trntbl, tuner, amp, spkrs)
systems in town. You know, the rig we all bought off the shelf by the
late 60s early 70s. Her's was in about '55 and the tube amp was a kit
and the spkrs homemade cabs. It rocked before ppl knew what rockin'
was.

OH!.... my brother did buy an old used console for $40 in '75. The TV
was dead, but the stereo flat smoked. I remember the night he brought
it home. We fired it up and rocked to Led Zep full blast all night
long. Ahh, youth.

nb

On 4/13/2014 1:41 PM, notbob wrote:

> By '62, my step father was DIY'ing a Heathkit color TV. Got it all
> assembled, but it didn't work right. A couple days in the repair shop
> fixed that and we had glorious color.
>
I built that kit, too! It had a motorised remote control (which my Dad
had custody of, naturally).
It worked perfectly (but I wasn't a novice at electronics).

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 4/13/2014 12:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> And between 11:30 PM and 6:00 AM all you could watch was a pattern and
>> hear it buzzzzzz.
>
> Don't forget the test pattern! Even when I was a teenager (no cable in
> our area) the stations went off the air at midnight. In the US they'd
> play the Star Spangled Banner then, gone until the next morning.
>
>> Our first TV was in 1948, an 11" Dumont in a nice
>> furniture console, they were very expensive, probably well over $500.
>> Looked something like this:
>> http://www.antiqueradio.org/art/DuMo...shedMedium.jpg
>>
> My parents had a console in the early 1960's. It had a record player at
> one end and a black & white TV at the other.
>
> Jill

Where I am they always did this, I loved it, still do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuIic17ijP8

On 4/13/2014 1:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 4/13/2014 12:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> And between 11:30 PM and 6:00 AM all you could watch was a pattern and
>>> hear it buzzzzzz.
>>
>> Don't forget the test pattern! Even when I was a teenager (no cable
>> in our area) the stations went off the air at midnight. In the US
>> they'd play the Star Spangled Banner then, gone until the next morning.
>>
>>> Our first TV was in 1948, an 11" Dumont in a nice
>>> furniture console, they were very expensive, probably well over $500.
>>> Looked something like this:
>>> http://www.antiqueradio.org/art/DuMo...shedMedium.jpg
>>>
>> My parents had a console in the early 1960's. It had a record player
>> at one end and a black & white TV at the other.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Where I am they always did this, I loved it, still do.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuIic17ijP8

I remember a PSA was always shown late night. The Crying Indian. It
was mostly about littering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Suu84khNGY

I wonder if we all wrote to them now at that address if there would be a
reply? LOL Write to Box 771 Radio City Station, New York to find out.

A little thread drift here. Most people in this area don't toss stuff
out the car window. I'm not talking about Dataw, I'm talking about the
general area. I rarely see bags or drink cups from fast food places
tossed by the roadside. Not much littering going on. That's a good
thing.

Jill

On 4/12/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-04-12 12:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> I know you remember when televisions used to be really expensive. They
>> were often huge heavy pieces of furniture.
>
>
> They are cheaper now than they were back in the 60s, and that is without
> factoring for inflation. You also needed to be technically minded to
> keep them running because they needed frequent tube replacements.

IIRC, our first TV when we got married in 1966 was about $170 ($1200 in
today's money). It was a 29" B&W portable. That was more than a weeks
pay back then.

A good sized flat screen can be had for just a couple of days pay now.