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Eating meat is as bad as paedophilia
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:48:21 +0000, White Spirit
> wrote: >Morrissey says so, anyway. Abattoirs are also as bad as Auschwitz. > >Personally, I'm content to throw the occasional brick through a >butcher's shop window, particularly a halal butcher's. > ><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533760/Eating-meat-bad-paedophilia-Morrissey-launches-incredible-rant-says-no-difference-abattoir-supporting-Auschwitz.html> <Haven't look at that link, no need to> Such a shame, as The Smiths made excellent music but Morrissey's opinions are generally crap. There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. |
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On 1/4/2014 10:09 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:48:21 +0000, White Spirit > > wrote: > >> Morrissey says so, anyway. Abattoirs are also as bad as Auschwitz. >> >> Personally, I'm content to throw the occasional brick through a >> butcher's shop window, particularly a halal butcher's. >> >> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533760/Eating-meat-bad-paedophilia-Morrissey-launches-incredible-rant-says-no-difference-abattoir-supporting-Auschwitz.html> > > <Haven't look at that link, no need to> > > Such a shame, as The Smiths made excellent music but Morrissey's > opinions are generally crap. > > There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. > I like Morrissey's music, but seeing that the Smith's biggest selling album was entitled "Meat is Murder" I understand what his gig is. I can separate the music from the message/politics and most people can Ironically his video for the "Closer I Get" had people questioning if Morrissey was a paedoiphile |
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On 2014\01\05 03:22, Hench wrote:
> > Ironically his video for the "Closer I Get" had people questioning if > Morrissey was a paedoiphile Blimey, the child is female! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRU7WckR6ug Everyone seems to have forgotten "Handsome Devil" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLEYvF99YWc When most people compare meat-eating to paedophilia, they're criticising it, with Mozzer I'm not so sure. |
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"Basil Jet" > wrote in message
... > On 2014\01\05 03:22, Hench wrote: >> >> Ironically his video for the "Closer I Get" had people questioning if >> Morrissey was a paedoiphile > > Blimey, the child is female! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRU7WckR6ug I like the way he (or someone) gropes/grabs her at 3:17. She seems happy enough about it though. > Everyone seems to have forgotten "Handsome Devil" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLEYvF99YWc "Let me get my hands on your mammary glands" - no paedophilia there. -- Max Demian |
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On 2014\01\05 10:05, Max Demian wrote:
> "Basil Jet" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2014\01\05 03:22, Hench wrote: >>> >>> Ironically his video for the "Closer I Get" had people questioning if >>> Morrissey was a paedoiphile >> >> Blimey, the child is female! >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRU7WckR6ug > > I like the way he (or someone) gropes/grabs her at 3:17. She seems happy > enough about it though. > >> Everyone seems to have forgotten "Handsome Devil" >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLEYvF99YWc > > "Let me get my hands on your mammary glands" - no paedophilia there. "I think I can help you get through your exams" |
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On Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:22:10 -0500, Hench > wrote:
>On 1/4/2014 10:09 PM, Jeßus wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:48:21 +0000, White Spirit >> > wrote: >> >>> Morrissey says so, anyway. Abattoirs are also as bad as Auschwitz. >>> >>> Personally, I'm content to throw the occasional brick through a >>> butcher's shop window, particularly a halal butcher's. >>> >>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533760/Eating-meat-bad-paedophilia-Morrissey-launches-incredible-rant-says-no-difference-abattoir-supporting-Auschwitz.html> >> >> <Haven't look at that link, no need to> >> >> Such a shame, as The Smiths made excellent music but Morrissey's >> opinions are generally crap. >> >> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >> > >I like Morrissey's music, but seeing that the Smith's biggest selling >album was entitled "Meat is Murder" I understand what his gig is. I can >separate the music from the message/politics and most people can > >Ironically his video for the "Closer I Get" had people questioning if >Morrissey was a paedoiphile Can't recall that video, I'll have to check it out before making a judgment like that. A lot of ppl are too quick to accuse ppl of that particular crime. |
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"Jeßus" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:48:21 +0000, White Spirit > > wrote: > >>Morrissey says so, anyway. Abattoirs are also as bad as Auschwitz. >> >>Personally, I'm content to throw the occasional brick through a >>butcher's shop window, particularly a halal butcher's. >> >><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533760/Eating-meat-bad-paedophilia-Morrissey-launches-incredible-rant-says-no-difference-abattoir-supporting-Auschwitz.html> > > <Haven't look at that link, no need to> > > Such a shame, as The Smiths made excellent music but Morrissey's > opinions are generally crap. True > > There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... |
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
> wrote: >> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. > >There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home as long as you employ a registered animal murderer or get yourself qualified... -- www.abelard.org --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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"abelard" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" > > wrote: > >>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >> >>There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... > > you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home > as long as you employ a registered animal murderer > or get yourself qualified... Nobody will know if you don't tell. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 05/01/2014 13:43, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "abelard" > wrote in message > ... >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >> > wrote: >> >>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>> >>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >> >> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >> or get yourself qualified... > > Nobody will know if you don't tell. Just the endless procession of cattle entering the kitchen door and nothing coming out the other side. |
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On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:08:47 +0000, DVH > wrote:
>On 05/01/2014 13:43, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "abelard" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>>> >>>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >>> >>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>> or get yourself qualified... >> >> Nobody will know if you don't tell. > >Just the endless procession of cattle entering the kitchen door and >nothing coming out the other side. now you're rejecting the law of the conservation of matter -- www.abelard.org --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 05/01/2014 14:14, abelard wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:08:47 +0000, DVH > wrote: > >> On 05/01/2014 13:43, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "abelard" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>>>> >>>>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >>>> >>>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>>> or get yourself qualified... >>> >>> Nobody will know if you don't tell. >> >> Just the endless procession of cattle entering the kitchen door and >> nothing coming out the other side. > > now you're rejecting the law of the conservation of matter I was quite careful to say "the other side", not the waste pipes or other forms of egress. |
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"DVH" > wrote in message ... > On 05/01/2014 13:43, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "abelard" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>>> >>>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >>> >>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>> or get yourself qualified... >> >> Nobody will know if you don't tell. > > Just the endless procession of cattle entering the kitchen door and > nothing coming out the other side. yers -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 05/01/14 14:08, DVH wrote:
> On 05/01/2014 13:43, Ophelia wrote: >> "abelard" > wrote in message >> ... >>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>> or get yourself qualified... >> Nobody will know if you don't tell. > Just the endless procession of cattle entering the kitchen door and > nothing coming out the other side. Are you saying that cattle don't go to the afterlife? |
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:43:35 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote: > > >"abelard" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >> > wrote: >> >>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>> >>>There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >> >> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >> or get yourself qualified... > >Nobody will know if you don't tell. Exactly. |
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On 05/01/2014 13:40, abelard wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" > > wrote: > >>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >> >> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... > > you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home > as long as you employ a registered animal murderer > or get yourself qualified... > > > You don't need a licence to kill your own livestock for your own consumption. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:25:59 +0000, Farmer Giles >
wrote: >On 05/01/2014 13:40, abelard wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >> > wrote: >> >>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>> >>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >> >> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >> or get yourself qualified... >You don't need a licence to kill your own livestock for your own >consumption. that was not what i was told but you are the farmer i know there's a 1998 law change on captive bolts http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm...r/guidance.htm 1. This Note is for everyone involved with the slaughtering or killing of farm animals or poultry, whether or not in a licensed slaughterhouse. It explains the procedures for licensing slaughtermen and gives guidance on the skills and knowledge that applicants for licences will be expected to demonstrate. Regulation EU 1099/2009 introduces new arrangements for slaughter licences from 1 January 2013. Further information on how this will affect existing licence holders will be issued in advance of that date. -- www.abelard.org --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 05/01/2014 14:42, abelard wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:25:59 +0000, Farmer Giles > > wrote: > >> On 05/01/2014 13:40, abelard wrote: >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>>> >>>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >>> >>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>> or get yourself qualified... > >> You don't need a licence to kill your own livestock for your own >> consumption. > > that was not what i was told but you are the farmer Well I don't claim to be an expert on these matters, but I've always understood that you can kill you own livestock for your own consumption. Here is what the UK Government's 'Farm-animal-welfare-at-slaughter' document says: If you plan to slaughter an animal or bird on your farm, you will need a licence - unless the animal is being killed: For disease control by a competent authority. By a free bullet in the field by a person who holds a firearms certificate. Because it is suffering and is being killed for emergency reasons relating to the welfare of the animal, and where the animal needs to be killed/slaughtered immediately. For an owner’s private consumption. By a qualified veterinary surgeon. Any killing or slaughter must be carried out without causing the animals any avoidable excitement, pain or suffering. Anyone carrying out killing or slaughter - by means other than a free bullet - must ensure that the animal is restrained appropriately and is stunned before slaughter. Also note that the Food Hygiene Regulations may apply to on-farm killing. You can get advice on these regulations from the FSA." --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:58:22 +0000, Farmer Giles >
wrote: >On 05/01/2014 14:42, abelard wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:25:59 +0000, Farmer Giles > >> wrote: >> >>> On 05/01/2014 13:40, abelard wrote: >>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>>>> >>>>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >>>> >>>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>>> or get yourself qualified... >> >>> You don't need a licence to kill your own livestock for your own >>> consumption. >> >> that was not what i was told but you are the farmer > >Well I don't claim to be an expert on these matters, but I've always >understood that you can kill you own livestock for your own consumption. > >Here is what the UK Government's 'Farm-animal-welfare-at-slaughter' >document says: > > >If you plan to slaughter an animal or bird on your farm, you will need a >licence - unless the animal is being killed: > >For disease control by a competent authority. > >By a free bullet in the field by a person who holds a firearms certificate. > >Because it is suffering and is being killed for emergency reasons >relating to the welfare of the animal, and where the animal needs to be >killed/slaughtered immediately. > >For an owner’s private consumption. > >By a qualified veterinary surgeon. > > >Any killing or slaughter must be carried out without causing the animals >any avoidable excitement, pain or suffering. Anyone carrying out killing >or slaughter - by means other than a free bullet - must ensure that the >animal is restrained appropriately and is stunned before slaughter. > >Also note that the Food Hygiene Regulations may apply to on-farm >killing. You can get advice on these regulations from the FSA." i wouldn't trust anyone untrained to kill/stun a large animal... their brains are relatively small and not easy to locate accurately unless you have some relevant education... ducks are a different matter if your wrists are strong or your chopper is sharp! there's a link to the regulation/s in the piece i just posted but i'm not motivated to read it -- www.abelard.org --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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"Farmer Giles" > wrote in message o.uk... > On 05/01/2014 13:40, abelard wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >> > wrote: >> >>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>> >>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >> >> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >> or get yourself qualified... >> >> >> > > You don't need a licence to kill your own livestock for your own > consumption. But generally you need an abbatoir. |
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On 05/01/2014 15:37, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> "Farmer Giles" > wrote in message > o.uk... >> On 05/01/2014 13:40, abelard wrote: >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>>> >>>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >>> >>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>> or get yourself qualified... >>> >>> >>> >> >> You don't need a licence to kill your own livestock for your own >> consumption. > > But generally you need an abbatoir. > > > By law? Which one is that? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:37:56 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
> wrote: >"Farmer Giles" > wrote in message >news:9tednenige_q9lTPnZ2dnUVZ8vCdnZ2d@brightview. co.uk... >> On 05/01/2014 13:40, abelard wrote: >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:35:23 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. >>>> >>>> There generally is in the UK, unless you stick to game... >>> >>> you can kill your own meat(animal people) at home >>> as long as you employ a registered animal murderer >>> or get yourself qualified... >> You don't need a licence to kill your own livestock for your own >> consumption. > >But generally you need an abbatoir. i know of no such requirement -- www.abelard.org --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:05:46 +1100, John J > wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:09:56 +1100, Jeßus > wrote: > >>On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:48:21 +0000, White Spirit > wrote: >> >>>Morrissey says so, anyway. Abattoirs are also as bad as Auschwitz. >>> >>>Personally, I'm content to throw the occasional brick through a >>>butcher's shop window, particularly a halal butcher's. >>> >>><http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533760/Eating-meat-bad-paedophilia-Morrissey-launches-incredible-rant-says-no-difference-abattoir-supporting-Auschwitz.html> >> >><Haven't look at that link, no need to> >> >>Such a shame, as The Smiths made excellent music but Morrissey's >>opinions are generally crap. >> >>There is no need to use an Abattoir just because you eat meat. > >Are you saying all the meat eaters should move to the hills and kill >their own?  No. |
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