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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:34:07 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> > On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:26:12 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> >>
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> >> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
> >> hcrg.pbz...
> >>
> >> > I'm thinking that the closest the English have to what we call an
> >> > English
> >> > Muffin might be a crumpet, at least in shape and size. But the dough
> >> > and
> >> > cooking methods are different.
> >> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_muffin>
> >> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumpet>
> >>
> >> Yes those are our muffins and crumpets! We have those cake type muffins
> >> too, but they are not the muffins being discussed here.
> >> --

> >
> > I guess that's why we call them *English* muffins.

>
> Dunno, we just call them 'muffins'
>


We call certain door and windows over here "French" doors and windows,
but in France they are just doors and windows. Everybody would be
complaining that we didn't acknowledge the country of origin (arrogant
Americans and all that cr*p) if we didn't put it in front of muffins,
doors and window. It's a can't win situation: wrong if you do, wrong
if you don't. I'll just keep on calling them "English" muffins.

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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:51:36 -0700 (PDT), Vegan Earthworm Holocaust
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> Sara Lee's vinegar muffins, like most of their crap, are made with hydrogenated oils.


In this particular case, I don't care. I don't eat enough of them to
not buy them just because of that. If they can figure out how to
replicate that great texture with better ingredients, it will be fine
by me too.

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:33:29 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> > So, you're telling Barbie & Janet there are English muffins found in
>> > England that aren't crumpets or cupcakes?

>>
>> Of course there is)
>>

> Getting back to what drove this off course... the "English" muffins I
> had at that B&B were horrible. I would have enjoyed a grocery store
> style crumpet, but they put out cruddy English muffins instead. Bah.


That was the fault of the B&B not muffins here in general. Maybe she gets
them from a cheap supplier.

I can get muffins in the supermarket and they are fine, but I really do
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> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:34:07 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:26:12 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>> >> hcrg.pbz...
>> >>
>> >> > I'm thinking that the closest the English have to what we call an
>> >> > English
>> >> > Muffin might be a crumpet, at least in shape and size. But the
>> >> > dough
>> >> > and
>> >> > cooking methods are different.
>> >> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_muffin>
>> >> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumpet>
>> >>
>> >> Yes those are our muffins and crumpets! We have those cake type
>> >> muffins
>> >> too, but they are not the muffins being discussed here.
>> >> --
>> >
>> > I guess that's why we call them *English* muffins.

>>
>> Dunno, we just call them 'muffins'
>>

>
> We call certain door and windows over here "French" doors and windows,
> but in France they are just doors and windows. Everybody would be
> complaining that we didn't acknowledge the country of origin (arrogant
> Americans and all that cr*p) if we didn't put it in front of muffins,
> doors and window. It's a can't win situation: wrong if you do, wrong
> if you don't. I'll just keep on calling them "English" muffins.


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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:23:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> That was the fault of the B&B not muffins here in general. Maybe she gets
> them from a cheap supplier.


I wasn't trying to blame anyone *except* the B&B keeper, or whatever
they are called. I thought she did a very poor job of representing
British morning food.
>
> I can get muffins in the supermarket and they are fine, but I really do
> prefer crumpets


Me too! I finally got silicone rings that are the right size for
crumpets last year. Want to know how many times I've made them?
Exactly once. <slapping self>

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> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:23:31 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>> That was the fault of the B&B not muffins here in general. Maybe she
>> gets
>> them from a cheap supplier.

>
> I wasn't trying to blame anyone *except* the B&B keeper, or whatever
> they are called. I thought she did a very poor job of representing
> British morning food.
>>
>> I can get muffins in the supermarket and they are fine, but I really do
>> prefer crumpets

>
> Me too! I finally got silicone rings that are the right size for
> crumpets last year. Want to know how many times I've made them?
> Exactly once. <slapping self>


lol same here, but if they were not so available in the shops I might make
some more) It's just good to know I can)
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:42:53 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> lol same here, but if they were not so available in the shops I might make
> some more) It's just good to know I can)


Glad to hear I'm not alone.

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> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:35:00 -0500, "Pete C." >
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> > Also the fact that Bay's isn't full of preservatives and is thus
> > refrigerated is a plus for most people.

>
> I don't like their quick bread/cake like texture. Ugh.


Except they use yeast, and I've never had one with a remotely cake like
texture. Dunno, you got a dud somehow, not one of the Bay's muffins I've
been eating for years. I've had two more in the past day and nothing
cake like with either.
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> "sf" > wrote in message
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> > On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:33:29 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > So, you're telling Barbie & Janet there are English muffins found in
> >> > England that aren't crumpets or cupcakes?
> >>
> >> Of course there is)
> >>

> > Getting back to what drove this off course... the "English" muffins I
> > had at that B&B were horrible. I would have enjoyed a grocery store
> > style crumpet, but they put out cruddy English muffins instead. Bah.

>
> That was the fault of the B&B not muffins here in general. Maybe she gets
> them from a cheap supplier.
>
> I can get muffins in the supermarket and they are fine, but I really do
> prefer crumpets


I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?
It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use
baking soda?

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> I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?
> It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use
> baking soda?


I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:

http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html



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> > I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?
> > It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use
> > baking soda?

>
> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
>
> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html


Great. Thanks. I did a web search and 6 out of 6 recipes
called for baking soda including the BBC's. I will go with
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On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:53:31 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "Michael Press" > wrote in message
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> > I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?

>
> > It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use

>
> > baking soda?
>>

> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html
>

I was brought up in the "back woods"...what are these
egg rings mentioned in the recipe? As far as I know
these were never used in our household.

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On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
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>> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
>> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html
>>

>I was brought up in the "back woods"...what are these
>egg rings mentioned in the recipe? As far as I know
>these were never used in our household.
>
>===


Metal ring that you put in the pan. Then crack the egg into the ring
so it has a uniform round shape. Used for McD's egg McMuffin, for
instance.
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:36:25 -0700, The Other Guy
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> Amazon has a pair for as low as $4, and
> with silicone so non-stick, AND in colors!
>

That's what I bought http://oi43.tinypic.com/1zoe1xt.jpg
They're the perfect size for crumpets.

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"Michael Press" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
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>> "Michael Press" > wrote in message
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>> > I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?
>> > It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use
>> > baking soda?

>>
>> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
>>
>> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html

>
> Great. Thanks. I did a web search and 6 out of 6 recipes
> called for baking soda including the BBC's. I will go with
> Delia's most straightforward recipe.


You are very welcome TBH I have never yet gone wrong with any Delia
recipe. When my children left home I gave each one her book 'The Complete
Cookery Course' She is great for beginners as well as more accomplished
cooks. I don't think she is on tv any more. She doesn't have that flashy
presentation thing with outrageous recipes. Just good solid ones

This is her website:

http://www.deliaonline.com/
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"Roy" > wrote in message
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> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:53:31 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
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>>
>>
>> > I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?

>>
>> > It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use

>>
>> > baking soda?
>>>

>> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
>> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html
>>

> I was brought up in the "back woods"...what are these
> egg rings mentioned in the recipe? As far as I know
> these were never used in our household.


Just metal rings. I use them sometimes for shaping stuff I want to bake. Or
you can use them to stack stuff so it looks pretty.

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>>> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
>>> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html
>>>

>>I was brought up in the "back woods"...what are these
>>egg rings mentioned in the recipe? As far as I know
>>these were never used in our household.
>>
>>===

>
> Metal ring that you put in the pan. Then crack the egg into the ring
> so it has a uniform round shape. Used for McD's egg McMuffin, for
> instance.


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>>I was brought up in the "back woods"...what are these
>>egg rings mentioned in the recipe? As far as I know
>>these were never used in our household.

>
> They're commonly used in diners to keep the eggs
> from cooking into each other. NEVER seen one in
> anyone's house that I've visited, but I'm sure
> that some people have and even use them.
>
> Amazon has a pair for as low as $4, and
> with silicone so non-stick, AND in colors!


I have two sizes and different depths.

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>> Amazon has a pair for as low as $4, and
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>>

> That's what I bought http://oi43.tinypic.com/1zoe1xt.jpg
> They're the perfect size for crumpets.


Ahh good, I hoped you would post because I expected you would have bought
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On 2013-08-16 08:49:53 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "Roy" > wrote in message
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>> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:53:31 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Michael Press" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>>> I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?
>>>
>>>> It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use
>>>
>>>> baking soda?
>>>>
>>> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
>>> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html
>>>

>> I was brought up in the "back woods"...what are these
>> egg rings mentioned in the recipe? As far as I know
>> these were never used in our household.

>
> Just metal rings. I use them sometimes for shaping stuff I want to
> bake. Or you can use them to stack stuff so it looks pretty.


Or stamp uniform raviolis.



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>> "Roy" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:53:31 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>>> I looked up crumpet recipes. Why is there baking soda in there?
>>>>
>>>>> It is a yeast raised bread. What happens if you do not use
>>>>
>>>>> baking soda?
>>>>>
>>>> I've never seen that. This is the recipe I have used:
>>>> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/t...-crumpets.html
>>>>
>>> I was brought up in the "back woods"...what are these
>>> egg rings mentioned in the recipe? As far as I know
>>> these were never used in our household.

>>
>> Just metal rings. I use them sometimes for shaping stuff I want to bake.
>> Or you can use them to stack stuff so it looks pretty.

>
> Or stamp uniform raviolis.


If you can get them the right size.
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