Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
don't miss it at all.

I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.

http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...sg_share_topic

(snip)

I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body wraps
it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
it fast. Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
in dead. But the makers say it's safe.

In article
>,
ImStillMags > wrote:

> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
> don't miss it at all.
>
> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>
> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...d=2127676%3ATo
> pic%3A509308&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
>
> (snip)
>
> I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
> not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
> DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body wraps
> it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
> it fast. Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
> appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> in dead. But the makers say it's safe.

I eat dead food. There is very little still alive in the food I eat.
Most of the destruction done in the microwave is done by heat. It is
called "cooking". The proteins are denatured. I don't know how blood
is warmed, but I suspect that overheating is an extremely bad idea.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> ImStillMags > wrote:
>
>> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
>> warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
>> don't miss it at all.
>>
>> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
>> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>>
>> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...d=2127676%3ATo
>> pic%3A509308&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
>> not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
>> DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body wraps
>> it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
>> it fast. Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
>> appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
>> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
>> in dead. But the makers say it's safe.
>
> I eat dead food. There is very little still alive in the food I eat.
> Most of the destruction done in the microwave is done by heat. It is
> called "cooking". The proteins are denatured. I don't know how blood
> is warmed, but I suspect that overheating is an extremely bad idea.

It is true that cooking kills the food. Any food. I do not know that
microwaving food is any worse than cooking it on a traditional stove. I do
know that it works very well (with caution) for melting chocolate. It makes
quick and easy pudding and it makes really moist muffins. The pudding and
muffins were really the only things I ever cooked/baked in it. Mostly I
just use for reheating leftovers. It will also make quick nachos although
IMO the oven makes better ones.

Tonight I used it on a jar of Ragu cheese sauce. Yes, I know it is dead
easy to make cheese sauce. I used to make it all the time and I don't need
a recipe. But... Winco had it on some kind of extreme bargain for just
$1.48 for a jar of 7 servings. I don't think I could make it for that price
although most likely mine would be tastier and healthier. However,
sometimes it's just nice to be able to make a super quick meal so I bought
two jars. Used half of the jar on Sunday and put the rest in the fridge.
Yes we each ate slightly over two servings. Oink. Anyway... The fridge
made it very thick and difficult to get out of the jar. 20 seconds in the
microwave and it came out easily.

On May 17, 9:25*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> warming. * *I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. * I really
> don't miss it at all.
>
> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>
> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...ic/show?id=212....
>
> (snip)
>
> I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
> not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
> DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. *So the body wraps
> it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
> it fast. *Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
> appliances. *What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> in dead. *But the makers say it's safe.

The link you posted isn't very good science. It's alarmist without
providing any actual information. The credentials of the person
making the claims are not given. She could be completely
ignorant of science, and it sounds like she is. Here's
a nice writeup on what has been termed junk science:
http://www.debunkosaurus.com/debunko...p/Junk_science

The human body does not use the DNA of the food that you
eat. Here's a nice explanation of genetics and the role
of DNA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_genetics

Cindy Hamilton

On May 17, 8:25*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> warming. * *I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. * I really
> don't miss it at all.
>
> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>
> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...ic/show?id=212....
>
> (snip)
>
> I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
> not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
> DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. *So the body wraps
> it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
> it fast. *Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
> appliances. *What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> in dead. *But the makers say it's safe.

I have had a microwave for many many years, I use it to heat coffee,
etc. Also I use it to nuke frozen entrees, that I sometimes have for
lunch. And, I will probably continue doing so.

On 5/18/2011 10:16 AM, rosie wrote:
> On May 17, 8:25 pm, > wrote:
>> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
>> warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
>> don't miss it at all.
>>
>> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
>> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>>
>> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...ic/show?id=212...
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
>> not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
>> DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body wraps
>> it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
>> it fast. Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
>> appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
>> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
>> in dead. But the makers say it's safe.
>
> I have had a microwave for many many years, I use it to heat coffee,
> etc. Also I use it to nuke frozen entrees, that I sometimes have for
> lunch. And, I will probably continue doing so.

Just the same as me! I have another use which is to defrost frozen
uncooked meat and fish at low power preparatory to cooking. With chicken
especially, I use a setting that does not cook the meat. The beginnings
of cooking are easily seen by the color change.

Incidentally, I despise the Whole Foods hype about irradiated food.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

"rosie" > wrote in message
...
> On May 17, 8:25 pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
>> warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
>> don't miss it at all.
>>
>> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
>> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>>
>> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...ic/show?id=212...
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>
> I have had a microwave for many many years, I use it to heat coffee,
> etc. Also I use it to nuke frozen entrees, that I sometimes have for
> lunch. And, I will probably continue doing so.


I use mine to reheat leftovers that I've frozen from fresh cooked home made
meals. Beats the heck out of some of the frozen prepared meals you can get
at the grocery store. For example, just the other day I had a nice dinner
of stewed chuck roast with new potatoes, carrots and celery. Easily thawed
and then reheated. That's what I use my microwave for. I'm sure I could
live without one, but until this one dies why bother?

Jill

On Sat, 21 May 2011 03:44:18 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
>"rosie" > wrote in message
...
>> On May 17, 8:25 pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>>> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
>>> warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
>>> don't miss it at all.
>>>
>>> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
>>> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>>>
>>> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...ic/show?id=212...
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>
>> I have had a microwave for many many years, I use it to heat coffee,
>> etc. Also I use it to nuke frozen entrees, that I sometimes have for
>> lunch. And, I will probably continue doing so.
>
>
>I use mine to reheat leftovers that I've frozen from fresh cooked home made
>meals. Beats the heck out of some of the frozen prepared meals you can get
>at the grocery store. For example, just the other day I had a nice dinner
>of stewed chuck roast with new potatoes, carrots and celery. Easily thawed
>and then reheated. That's what I use my microwave for. I'm sure I could
>live without one, but until this one dies why bother?
>
>Jill

Even if it dies you'll immediately buy another, microwave ovens
nowadays are cheap as dirt... I wish mine would die so I can justify
buying a little larger one, but after 20 years that little GE just
keeps on nuking, and nuking, and nuking, better than that bunny! And
not a day passes I don't use it, several times. I don't use it for
much real cooking other than the occasional single potato, and other
than grilled there is no better way to cook corn on the cob... I nuke
most veggies, especially frozen... just stab the plastic bag a few
times and nuke, I even nuke those bags of baby spinach.

On Sat, 21 May 2011 21:14:17 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> I even nuke those bags of baby spinach.
>
>I'm going to have to try that. Thanks for the tip!

Works great... I stand the bag up in a bowl, make a couple slits at
the top, add a couple spoons of water, and nuke on high for about five
minutes or until done to your liking with your microwave. Then with
scissors snip off the top half, add a pat of butter and dig in,
careful not to scald yourself... no dish to wash. I didn't invent
this, Birdseye has bags of frozen veggies designed to pop open at a
seam while heating. Their "Steamfresh" concept works well with any
smallish bag of frozen veggies, just remember the slits as they won't
pop open like the Birdeye Steamfresh bag.

http://birdseye.com/whatsnew.html

The first time I tried it I bought the creamed spinach one from
Walmart... the cooking concept works wonderfully well but the creamed
spinach was just awful, more sauce than spinach, I couldn't finish it.
But now I buy other brands of frozen veggies keeping in mind sizes
that will work with this cooking method, no more than one pound...
today for lunch I steamfreshed a bag of Walmart brand stirfry veggies,
excellent... at the last moment I decided to cook a pot of nice thick
chicken egg drop soup and tossed in those cooked veggies.... added
some seasonings to jazz it up; white pepper, dillweed, toasted sesame
oil, and lately I've resorted to powdered ginger as fresh is not
readily available around here, actually I noticed that the Walmart
that's further away has it but I always forget... now ginger is on my
list. Try this once and you won't be able to live without a
microwave. I made that soup extra thick with cornstarch and drizzled
in two eggs, added some of those not so good crispy noodles too....
filled my 1 1/2 ancient Pyrex bowl one and a half times. I have this
bowl a very long time, it was my mother's, it's my favorite soup bowl
and I use it for eating lots of things. You probably won't believe
but that's the only Pyrex bowl I have from that really old set, my
bowl is *pink* with with what appears to be a fig leaf pattern with
little fags. LOL
http://i53.tinypic.com/1zq4r5x.jpg

The Jilly lording over her critters...
my new tree is right there where I can
get a good view, and getting leaves:
http://i54.tinypic.com/96xmag.jpg

Had to fence or would be deer dinner...
one of my new mallard tenants, about
a dozen here now, they mingle well with
the geese:
http://i53.tinypic.com/v2skg7.jpg

ImStillMags wrote:
> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
> don't miss it at all.
>
> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>
> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...sg_share_topic
>
> (snip)
>
> I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
> not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
> DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body wraps
> it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
> it fast. Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
> appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> in dead. But the makers say it's safe.
>
>
Well, I have agreed with much of what you have posted on in the
past, but I find this just bizarre.

--
Jean B.

On May 18, 11:49 am, "Jean B." > wrote:
> ImStillMags wrote:
> > Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> > warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
> > don't miss it at all. ....

> Well, I have agreed with much of what you have posted on in the
> past, but I find this just bizarre.
>
The whole site she linked to is bizarre. You aren't going to find
science on a site devoted to "welcoming all spiritualities." -aem

On May 18, 11:49*am, "Jean B." > wrote:
> ImStillMags wrote:
> > Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> > warming. * *I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. * I really
> > don't miss it at all.
>
> > I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
> > couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>
> >http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...ic/show?id=212....
>
> > (snip)
>
> > I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
> > not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
> > DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. *So the body wraps
> > it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
> > it fast. *Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
> > appliances. *What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> > transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> > in dead. *But the makers say it's safe.
>
> Well, I have agreed with much of what you have posted on in the
> past, but I find this just bizarre.
>
> --
> Jean B.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I knew when I posted it that people would hop all over it. Both
camps in this controversy believe they are "right"

For my own self, my own reasons, my own "intuition", I don't think
microwaves are a good thing.

Whatever anyone else wants to do is ok.

On May 18, 12:29*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On May 18, 11:49*am, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> > > warming. * *I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. * I really
> > > don't miss it at all.
>
> > > I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
> > > couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>
> > >http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...ic/show?id=212...
>
> > > (snip)
>
> > > I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
> > > not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
> > > DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. *So the body wraps
> > > it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
> > > it fast. *Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
> > > appliances. *What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> > > transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> > > in dead. *But the makers say it's safe.
>
> > Well, I have agreed with much of what you have posted on in the
> > past, but I find this just bizarre.
>
> > --
> > Jean B.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I knew when I posted it that people would hop all over it. * * Both
> camps in this controversy believe they are *"right"
>
> For my own self, my own reasons, my own "intuition", I don't think
> microwaves are a good thing.
>
> Whatever anyone else wants to do is ok.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I would love for someone who strongly believes that microwaves are
just fine to replicate the experiment with the water.

On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>*What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> in dead.

I'm sorry, but if that really happened, it didn't have anything to do
with the microwaves.

Please read this:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7600834

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
> >*What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> > transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> > in dead.
>
> I'm sorry, but if that really happened, it didn't have anything to do
> with the microwaves.
>
> Please read this:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7600834

The really whackadoodle part is that red blood cells don't _have_ DNA,
so there's none to corrupt.

They might have been plain old fashioned _cooked_ though.

"Landon" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

> What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> in dead.

I'm sorry, but if that really happened, it didn't have anything to do
with the microwaves.

Please read this:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7600834

I don't store blood. If I need some I prefer it fresh. I will just wait
outside a nightclub and when a young lady exits alone, I will follow her and
bite her on the neck.

On May 18, 3:30*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:

> I would love for someone who strongly believes that microwaves are
> just fine to replicate the experiment with the water.

It looked to me like the "microwave water" plant died of overwatering.
There were signs on the windowsill or whatever those plants were
sitting on.

To perform the experiment fairly, you would want to measure the
soil and give each plant the same soil. Every time you watered,
you'd want to measure the water and give each plant the same
amount. You might want to swap their positions around on a
regular basis to factor out differences in light levels and
draftiness. There might be other ways to keep the experiment
free from bias.

For it to be good science, you'd have to honestly believe that
the experiment could show results that invalidated your
hypothesis. You'd want to describe your method of procedure
so that other experimenters could repeat and/or critique your
procedure. You probably would want to repeat it several times
with different kinds of plants.

Frankly, if a junior high student turned in what was shown on
that web site, I don't think I'd be able to give it better than a C.
I know my junior high science teacher would have been very
critical of the whole thing. He probably would have awarded
a D.

Cindy Hamilton

On May 19, 6:26*am, Cindy Hamilton >
wrote:
> On May 18, 3:30*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > I would love for someone who strongly believes that microwaves are
> > just fine to replicate the experiment with the water.
>
> It looked to me like the "microwave water" plant died of overwatering.
> There were signs on the windowsill or whatever those plants were
> sitting on.
>
> To perform the experiment fairly, you would want to measure the
> soil and give each plant the same soil. *Every time you watered,
> you'd want to measure the water and give each plant the same
> amount. *You might want to swap their positions around on a
> regular basis to factor out differences in light levels and
> draftiness. *There might be other ways to keep the experiment
> free from bias.
>
> For it to be good science, you'd have to honestly believe that
> the experiment could show results that invalidated your
> hypothesis. *You'd want to describe your method of procedure
> so that other experimenters could repeat and/or critique your
> procedure. *You probably would want to repeat it several times
> with different kinds of plants.
>
> Frankly, if a junior high student turned in what was shown on
> that web site, I don't think I'd be able to give it better than a C.
> I know my junior high science teacher would have been very
> critical of the whole thing. *He probably would have awarded
> a D.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

So, I asked if anyone who doubted it to do the experiment....would you
do it?

I would love for someone here to do it.

I don't mind being called names and ridiculed for having my own
reasons for not using microwaves, but
if I do the experiment, no one would consider it valid.

On May 18, 3:30*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:

...

> I would love for someone who strongly believes that microwaves are
> just fine to replicate the experiment with the water.

I came in late. What experiment? I didn't find it browsing the thread.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On May 20, 6:42*am, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> On May 18, 3:30*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> * ...
>
> > I would love for someone who strongly believes that microwaves are
> > just fine to replicate the experiment with the water.
>
> I came in late. What experiment? I didn't find it browsing the thread.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

In the opening post there is a link to a site where someone used
boiled water and microwaved water
to water plants to test the difference.

I would like for someone here to do it to see if it is true or not.

On May 20, 9:42*am, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> On May 18, 3:30*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> * ...
>
> > I would love for someone who strongly believes that microwaves are
> > just fine to replicate the experiment with the water.
>
> I came in late. What experiment? I didn't find it browsing the thread.

It was on the website referenced in the original post. One plant
was watered with microwaved water. The other with (if memory serves)
filtered water. The plants looked like they might have been cilantro.
The one watered with microwaved water died. Honestly, there are
so many ways to kill a plant, you'd have to test hundreds to
get any kind of reliable sampling.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:25:31 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags wrote:

> Here is another site that talks about microwave cooking and
> warming. I got rid of my microwave about 7 years ago. I really
> don't miss it at all.
>
> I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their microwave, but.........it
> couldn't hurt to do a little investigation.
>
> http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/s...sg_share_topic
>
> (snip)
>
> I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is
> not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the
> DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body wraps
> it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates
> it fast. Think of all the mothers heating up milk in these "safe,"
> appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
> in dead. But the makers say it's safe.

this sounds like bullshit and the author like a kook.

blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
> this sounds like bullshit and the author like a kook.

And anybody who believes it is woefully ignorant.
Like the people who believe in astrology, homeopathy,
and Sylvia Browne.

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> this sounds like bullshit and the author like a kook.
>
> And anybody who believes it is woefully ignorant.
> Like the people who believe in astrology, homeopathy,
> and Sylvia Browne.

Sylvia Browne, the old fraud.

Cheri

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> this sounds like bullshit and the author like a kook.
>
> And anybody who believes it is woefully ignorant.
> Like the people who believe in astrology, homeopathy,
> and Sylvia Browne.

I believe in Astrology and Homeopathy. But Sylvia Browne? She's freaky.

On Thu, 19 May 2011 01:53:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>
>>> this sounds like bullshit and the author like a kook.
>>
>> And anybody who believes it is woefully ignorant.
>> Like the people who believe in astrology, homeopathy,
>> and Sylvia Browne.
>
>I believe in Astrology and Homeopathy. But Sylvia Browne? She's freaky.

Sylvia Browne is a textbook case of a con-artist.

She does it very well. TV shows, books...she's made it in the world of
con-artists. She's one of their center-folds.

Comparable to any money-begging Evangelist. Slick as oil-covered
sheet-metal.

Astrology? You gotta be kiddin. The position of an object in space
that is 20 billion light years away.....means exactly nothing, except
that 20 billion light years away, there used to be an object floating
in that spot in space.

Homeopathy? Right there on the same shelf with Sylvia Browne's books.
Pure, unadulterated nonsense and junk science for those who are
inclined to think vodoo is real. <eye-roll>

"The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to
be no more effective than a placebo."

Sorry Julie, unless you're just looking for a "feel good" cult to
"believe in", you're "believing" in snake oil and bovine feces with
Astrology and Homeopathy. You seem like an intelligent person. Get out
of that nonsense and find some real science to study.

Here's an excellent place to start: "The Natural Medicines
Comprehensive Database" at www.NaturalDatabase.com
or, you can get the hard copy as I did in 2000. It'll be one of the
best $60 you ever spent.

It sorts the chaf from the wheat in terms of Natural Medicines, with
detailed analysis of each item listed. If nothing else, it's one of
the best reference books for medicinal plants that exists. My copy of
it was given to me by my Doctor at the Mayo Clinic when she got the
most current version.

The $60 gets you the book and a years worth of the online version of
it to use. Fasinating reading.

On May 19, 7:43*am, Landon > wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2011 01:53:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > wrote:
>
> >"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> blake murphy wrote:
>
> >>> this sounds like bullshit and the author like a kook.
>
> >> And anybody who believes it is woefully ignorant.
> >> Like the people who believe in astrology, homeopathy,
> >> and Sylvia Browne.
>
> >I believe in Astrology and Homeopathy. *But Sylvia Browne? *She's freaky.
>
> Sylvia Browne is a textbook case of a con-artist.
>
> She does it very well. TV shows, books...she's made it in the world of
> con-artists. She's one of their center-folds.
>
> Comparable to any money-begging Evangelist. Slick as oil-covered
> sheet-metal.
>
> Astrology? You gotta be kiddin. The position of an object in space
> that is 20 billion light years away.....means exactly nothing, except
> that 20 billion light years away, there used to be an object floating
> in that spot in space.
>
> Homeopathy? Right there on the same shelf with Sylvia Browne's books.
> Pure, unadulterated nonsense and junk science for those who are
> inclined to think vodoo is real. <eye-roll>
>
> "The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to
> be no more effective than a placebo."
>
> Sorry Julie, unless you're just looking for a "feel good" cult to
> "believe in", you're "believing" in snake oil and bovine feces with
> Astrology and Homeopathy. You seem like an intelligent person. Get out
> of that nonsense and find some real science to study.
>
> Here's an excellent place to start: "The Natural Medicines
> Comprehensive Database" atwww.NaturalDatabase.com
> or, you can get the hard copy as I did in 2000. It'll be one of the
> best $60 you ever spent.
>
> It sorts the chaf from the wheat in terms of Natural Medicines, with
> detailed analysis of each item listed. If nothing else, it's one of
> the best reference books for medicinal plants that exists. My copy of
> it was given to me by my Doctor at the Mayo Clinic when she got the
> most current version.
>
> The $60 gets you the book and a years worth of the online version of
> it to use. Fasinating reading.

Astrology is a funny subject. People who believe it often believe that
Asian and Western astrology, while contradictory, are both valid.
Astrology may may even have a smidgen of validity, but not for the
reason than fuzzy-heads believe. It wouldn't amaze me if it turned out
that the weather during one's early development has some influence on
the course of that development.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On Tue, 17 May 2011 22:34:08 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article
>,
> ImStillMags > wrote:
>
>> What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a
>> transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went
>> in dead. But the makers say it's safe.
>
>Oh for pity sake! The blood was COOKED! That's why it killed the
>patient! It happened in a Hospital in San Antonio recently too where
>some dumb assed uneducated nursing assistant warmed up blood for a
>transfusion in the break room microwave because she thought it was too
>cold!
>
>Blood warmers are used for certain things, but they are NOT microwaves!

No one heats baby fomula over direct heat either, the double boiler
method is used... microwaving baby formula is perfectly fine if the
bottle is submerged in a container of water, same as using a stove
top, both heated by convection... naturally etiher requires testing
temperature frequently... if not the same thing will happen to a pot
of eggs set to boil on the stovetop and walking away.