James Silverton wrote:

>> Ah, but do you get the Lea & Perrins made in the United States
>> or the one made in England? They are not the same.
>
> I expect the Lea & Perrins is made in the US and I'll have to take your
> word for it that the British product is different. It's not such a major
> item in my cooking but there is a local "gourmet import" store that
> might have the imported stuff and I'll have to look there.
>

Is it made in the US or just bottled there? There is a food processing
plant not too far from here that puts out Lea and Perrins. I used to
think that they made it, but it turned out that they just bottle it there.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:59:25 -0600, gloria.p wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:35:23 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems to me that using fruit scented shampoo, etc. would attract
>>>> insects.
>>>
>>> I love my coconut shampoo and no insects circle me either.
>>>
>>
>> Unlike humans, I bet insects can tell the difference between real and
>> artificially created fruit scents.
>>
>> gloria p
>
> maybe so, but they can't drive a car worth shit.

lol
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https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:59:25 -0600, gloria.p wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:35:23 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems to me that using fruit scented shampoo, etc. would
>>>> attract insects.
>>>
>>> I love my coconut shampoo and no insects circle me either.

>> Unlike humans, I bet insects can tell the difference between real and
>> artificially created fruit scents.

> maybe so, but they can't drive a car worth shit.

I'm surprised to see you, of all people, spreading stereotypes
like that.

nancy

blake wrote on Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:21:38 -0400:

>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:49:08 -0400, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:16:24 -0700 (PDT), Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 5:45 pm, "Kody" > wrote:
>>>>> Does brand loyalty exist? I know growing up it had to be
>>>>> Folgers coffee and Tide laundry detergent and many other
>>>>> examples but I came to the realization the other day that
>>>>> my brand loyalty is very weak. I suspect that it exists in
>>>>> the general public but I'm not sure where, beer and
>>>>> cigarettes would be a couple of areas I would think.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Kody
>>>>
>>>> I'm brand loyal to certain things:
>>>> Cottonelle bathroom tissue
>>>> Heinz Ketchup
>>>> Chock Full O Nuts NY Roast coffee
>>>
>>> (cover your eyes, coffee connoisseurs) i had given up making
>>> coffee at home for about ten years, but i find i like the
>>> Chock Full O Nuts NY Roast coffee. but i confess i first
>>> bought it because it was cheap.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> whatever you like is the right one

> i should try the high-priced spread at least once. but i know
> i won't go as far as roasting and grinding my own beans.

> maybe i'll get a small amount of roasted kona beans to grind
> at the store. i think they have such. i'll have to overcome
> sticker shock.

I've been grinding my own beans for 20 years. Currently, I use a little
Cuisenart and it's no real trouble to grind them for 40 seconds to
produce the amount needed for my Mr. Coffee automatic brewer. I like to
vary the beans that I use, both type and degree of roast. More often
than not I buy them at Trader Joes and I have treated myself to Kona
once in a while. I've had Jamaica Blue Mountain but, good tho' it is,
I've never bought it for myself. I usually keep the unground beans in
the freezer and it's not necessary to defrost them before grinding.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote in message

> I've been grinding my own beans for 20 years. Currently, I use a little
> Cuisenart and it's no real trouble to grind them for 40 seconds to produce
> the amount needed for my Mr. Coffee automatic brewer. I like to vary the
> beans that I use, both type and degree of roast. More often than not I buy
> them at Trader Joes and I have treated myself to Kona once in a while.
> I've had Jamaica Blue Mountain but, good tho' it is, I've never bought it
> for myself. I usually keep the unground beans in the freezer and it's not
> necessary to defrost them before grinding.

Blue Mountain is my preference, or Kenyan if I can't get it.

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https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Aug 19, 5:23*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:15:08 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "l, not -l" wrote:
>
> > > This morning's local (STL) Fox news had a segment on "healthy" food for
> > > kids. *Among the items suggested was a whole wheat hot dog bun, spread with
> > > peanut butter and honey, then lay a peeled banana on the PB&H and you have a
> > > ..... they didn't name it, I'll call it a banana-dog.
>
> > Bloody hell, why does everyone think that you have to disguise healthy
> > food for kids?! Just give them some nice healthy *normal* food routinely
> > from their first solid food.
>
> That's not disguising anything and there is nothing wrong with the
> concept. *Kids like to eat with their hands and hot dogs are easy to
> handle; so put something that normally goes between two slices of
> bread into a hot dog bun.
>

Hot dogs are the biggest food choking hazard for children. From a
February article calling for hot dog redesign:

"If you were to take the best engineers in the world and try to design
the perfect plug for a child's airway, it would be a hot dog," says
statement author Gary Smith, director of the Center for Injury
Research and Policy at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus,
Ohio. "I'm a pediatric emergency doctor, and to try to get them out
once they're wedged in, it's almost impossible."

"spamtrap1888" > wrote
>
> Hot dogs are the biggest food choking hazard for children. From a
> February article calling for hot dog redesign:
>
> "If you were to take the best engineers in the world and try to design
> the perfect plug for a child's airway, it would be a hot dog," says
> statement author Gary Smith, director of the Center for Injury
> Research and Policy at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus,
> Ohio. "I'm a pediatric emergency doctor, and to try to get them out
> once they're wedged in, it's almost impossible."

I recently saw where the dog has been redesigned into a flat shape, more
like a patty. They are not in commercial production yet but may be soon.

blake murphy wrote:
>
> (cover your eyes, coffee connoisseurs) i had given up making coffee at home
> for about ten years, but i find i like the Chock Full O Nuts NY Roast
> coffee. but i confess i first bought it because it was cheap.

Consumer survets tend to rank Chock Full O Nuts and Eight O'Clock as the
best canned coffee brands, Carabou and Dunkin Donuts as the best drip
coffee from chains.

We now have a Keurig so we get K-cups. I get an assortment but my
tastes run to bold, cark and bitter. I like Jet Fuel and Black Tiger
from Coffee People. Nuclear powered beans.

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Aug 18, 7:05 pm, Andy > wrote:
>>>> sf > wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:14:29 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> I have been stuck on green Palmolive dish soap for
>>>>>> years, though I think that's just a rut and not a loyalty.
>>>>> In that case try Safeway's Green Apple scented "Bright Green"
>>>>> dishwashing detergent. It smells wonderful.
>>>> Is it just me or does it bother anyone else that scented dish soap is
>>>> just wrong?
>>>
>>> I buy Ivory. That's how dish soap is supposed to smell.
>>>
>>> Mostly I buy unscented stuff, since perfumes bother DH's
>>> asthma. But Ivory dish soap and my Neutrogena soap are
>>> sufficiently mildly scented for him.
>>>
>>> Lemon scent is ok, but even if DH weren't a factor, those
>>> other weird scents are a non-starter with me. I'm not a
>>> big believer in aromatherapy, nor in "air fresheners".
>>> Soap and water (and ventilation) are all the air freshener
>>> one needs.
>>>
>>> It gags me when the neighbor is drying clothes (dryer
>>> sheets), and they don't live particularly close.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Oh! Here's what I hate--the fact that women's products are so
>> sickeningly sweet smelling. And I also don't want to smell like a fruit.
>>
> I hate stuff that isn't food that smells like food, too. Sometimes one
> does need an air freshener (unless your s--t don't stink) I go for the
> ones labeled "clean linen" as they have the least offensive aromas.
>
> It seems to me that using fruit scented shampoo, etc. would attract
> insects.
>
I have a fan. :-)

--
Jean B.

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:49:50 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> I am afraid I won't like the flavor.
>> I think the solution is to try new recipes with the UK version.
>
> Why not use a few drops in your next gravy for the family? No harm
> done if it's a little stronger than usual.
>
My usual use is "snax"--you know, the snack mix made with various
Chex cereals?

--
Jean B.

James Silverton wrote:
> sf wrote on Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:18:36 -0700:
>
>>> I expect the Lea & Perrins is made in the US and I'll have to
>>> take your word for it that the British product is different.
>
>> I've read that the two are different, but I was brought up on
>> American L&P and that's what I buy as an adult after one
>> unfortunate incident when I bought another brand in an effort
>> to save money. Still can't believe how different brand x was.
>> Terrible stuff.
>
>>> It's not such a major item in my cooking
>
>> Major in terms of amount or major as in there are certain
>> things you can't make taste right without it? It's
>> indispensable for me when making gravy, but I just use a few
>> drops at a time. I never measure L&P in cups or even
>> tablespoons.
>
>>> but there is a local "gourmet import" store that
>>> might have the imported stuff and I'll have to look there.
>
>> Does it matter? If you're satisfied with the American style
>> version, continue to use it.
>
> It's not a case of satisfaction except for my curiosity:-) It's always
> interesting to see if you can really detect these subtle differences. In
> the days that I ate Kit-Kat's, there was a distinct differnce between
> American and British versions. The reason was simple: the US version
> used peanuts and the (very superior) British one hazel nuts
>
I actually have some British Kit-Kats. The latter are much denser
than the US-made ones.

--
Jean B.

l, not -l wrote:
> On 19-Aug-2010, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>> Is Del Monte still available? I haven't seen it in a long time but I
>>> recall it as a bit different but an acceptable alternative for me to
>>> Heinz.
>>>
>> I haven't seen it, but then I haven't looked specifically. Now
>> whenever I see a Del Monte product, my reaction is surprise to see
>> anything under that label. Del Monte's offerings have shrunk so
>> much during my life time!
>>
>> Hmmm. The site is rather cumbersome. I THINK the answer is no.
>> I note that DM's brands include S&W, Contadina, and College
>> Inn--and a lot of pet food labels.
>
> Del Monte Ketchp - yes.
> http://www.delmonte.com/Products/TomatoItem.asp?id=136
>
> The supermarket where I shop (STL suburb) carries many Del Monte products; I
> buy Del Monte brand fruit and tomatoes regularly. Since I buy either Brooks
> or Heinz No Sugar Added Ketchup, I don't pay attention to what else is non
> the shelf, so can't say if Del Monte ketchup is sold where I shop; but, it
> definitely is still made.
>
> To see what other products Del Monte still offers, visit
> http://www.delmonte.com/Products/

That is just odd. I could swear I clicked on tomato products.
But that must not have been the case! Thanks, Wayne.

--
Jean B.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> I love Almond Joy candy bars, but I wish they'd make them also with
> dark chocolate like Mounds.
>
Ditto. I don't particularly like milk chocolate.
--
Jean B.

Dave Smith wrote:
> James Silverton wrote:
>
>>> Ah, but do you get the Lea & Perrins made in the United States
>>> or the one made in England? They are not the same.
>>
>> I expect the Lea & Perrins is made in the US and I'll have to take
>> your word for it that the British product is different. It's not such
>> a major item in my cooking but there is a local "gourmet import" store
>> that might have the imported stuff and I'll have to look there.
>>
>
> Is it made in the US or just bottled there? There is a food processing
> plant not too far from here that puts out Lea and Perrins. I used to
> think that they made it, but it turned out that they just bottle it there.

I believe the L&P that is sold in normal US venues is made in the
US. The formulae are significantly different though. Ditto for
other sauces.

--
Jean B.

Doug Freyburger wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:
>> (cover your eyes, coffee connoisseurs) i had given up making coffee at home
>> for about ten years, but i find i like the Chock Full O Nuts NY Roast
>> coffee. but i confess i first bought it because it was cheap.
>
> Consumer survets tend to rank Chock Full O Nuts and Eight O'Clock as the
> best canned coffee brands, Carabou and Dunkin Donuts as the best drip
> coffee from chains.
>
> We now have a Keurig so we get K-cups. I get an assortment but my
> tastes run to bold, cark and bitter. I like Jet Fuel and Black Tiger
> from Coffee People. Nuclear powered beans.

I like bold but not bitter. My favorites, at least those one can
get locally, are Dark Magic, Sumatran Reserve, and sometimes
Friedrich's French Roast or Tully's House Blend. I always make
the smallest cup (on my machine, I think that is 6 oz; on the most
expensive machine, you can get 4 oz) and then use a lot of milk.

--
Jean B.

Jean wrote on Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:42:34 -0400:

> Dave Smith wrote:
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>>> Ah, but do you get the Lea & Perrins made in the United
>>>> States or the one made in England? They are not the same.
>>>
>>> I expect the Lea & Perrins is made in the US and I'll have
>>> to take your word for it that the British product is
>>> different. It's not such a major item in my cooking but
>>> there is a local "gourmet import" store that might have the imported
>>> stuff and I'll have to look there.
>>>
>> Is it made in the US or just bottled there? There is a food
>> processing plant not too far from here that puts out Lea and Perrins.
>> I used to think that they made it, but it turned out
>> that they just bottle it there.

> I believe the L&P that is sold in normal US venues is made in the US.
> The formulae are significantly different though. Ditto for other
> sauces.

The argument is interesting but I will not be convinced until I can get
versions from both sides of the pond to try. So far, I've not found any
British style "Wooster" sauce, nor any others. However, I can say that
Branston Pickle made in Canada is not detectably different from that
imported from Britain. However, Carlsberg Elephant beer from Canada is
much less potent that I have bought in Denmark.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:
> Jean wrote on Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:42:34 -0400:
>
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Ah, but do you get the Lea & Perrins made in the United
>>>>> States or the one made in England? They are not the same.
>>>>
>>>> I expect the Lea & Perrins is made in the US and I'll have
>>>> to take your word for it that the British product is
>>>> different. It's not such a major item in my cooking but
>>>> there is a local "gourmet import" store that might have the imported
>>>> stuff and I'll have to look there.
>>>>
>>> Is it made in the US or just bottled there? There is a food
>>> processing plant not too far from here that puts out Lea and Perrins.
>>> I used to think that they made it, but it turned out
>>> that they just bottle it there.
>
>> I believe the L&P that is sold in normal US venues is made in the US.
>> The formulae are significantly different though. Ditto for other sauces.
>
> The argument is interesting but I will not be convinced until I can get
> versions from both sides of the pond to try. So far, I've not found any
> British style "Wooster" sauce, nor any others. However, I can say that
> Branston Pickle made in Canada is not detectably different from that
> imported from Britain. However, Carlsberg Elephant beer from Canada is
> much less potent that I have bought in Denmark.
>
I am not sure I have both of the sauces in the same house. If I
see that I have both here, I'll post the ingredients.

--
Jean B.

On Aug 20, 8:45*pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
> > blake murphy wrote:
> >> (cover your eyes, coffee connoisseurs) i had given up making coffee at home
> >> for about ten years, but i find i like the Chock Full O Nuts NY Roast
> >> coffee. *but i confess i first bought it because it was cheap.
>
> > Consumer survets tend to rank Chock Full O Nuts and Eight O'Clock as the
> > best canned coffee brands, Carabou and Dunkin Donuts as the best drip
> > coffee from chains.
>
> > We now have a Keurig so we get K-cups. *I get an assortment but my
> > tastes run to bold, cark and bitter. *I like Jet Fuel and Black Tiger
> > from Coffee People. *Nuclear powered beans.
>
> I like bold but not bitter. *My favorites, at least those one can
> get locally, are Dark Magic, Sumatran Reserve, and sometimes
> Friedrich's French Roast or Tully's House Blend. *I always make
> the smallest cup (on my machine, I think that is 6 oz; on the most
> expensive machine, you can get 4 oz) and then use a lot of milk.
>
> --
> Jean B.

I like bold but not bitter coffee, too. That's why I'm a Chock Full
o'Nuts NY Roast fan. It's got tons of flavor but it's not bitter. I
am very low tech when it comes to coffee. I have a 4 cup Mr Coffee
machine with a timer. I fill my travel mug with room for milk, which I
drink in the car while commuting. The rest of the pot is what I drink
at home while I'm getting ready. If I used a Keurig machine, I'd have
to run the machine 2 or 3 times to get the same qty of coffee.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:21:38 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:45:05 -1000, pure kona wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:49:08 -0400, blake murphy
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:16:24 -0700 (PDT), Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>
>i should try the high-priced spread at least once. but i know i won't go
>as far as roasting and grinding my own beans.
>
>maybe i'll get a small amount of roasted kona beans to grind at the store.
>i think they have such. i'll have to overcome sticker shock.
>
>your pal,
>blake
Try it from a farmer who freshly roasts and it ought to cost less
too

aloha,
Cea

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:22:38 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
>"spamtrap1888" > wrote
>>
>> Hot dogs are the biggest food choking hazard for children. From a
>> February article calling for hot dog redesign:
>>
>> "If you were to take the best engineers in the world and try to design
>> the perfect plug for a child's airway, it would be a hot dog," says
>> statement author Gary Smith, director of the Center for Injury
>> Research and Policy at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus,
>> Ohio. "I'm a pediatric emergency doctor, and to try to get them out
>> once they're wedged in, it's almost impossible."
>
>I recently saw where the dog has been redesigned into a flat shape, more
>like a patty. They are not in commercial production yet but may be soon.
>
>
wow a flat hot dog, in my mind, looks nasty despite the flavor...
aloha,
Cea

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:18:42 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> (cover your eyes, coffee connoisseurs) i had given up making coffee at home
>> for about ten years, but i find i like the Chock Full O Nuts NY Roast
>> coffee. but i confess i first bought it because it was cheap.
>
>Consumer survets tend to rank Chock Full O Nuts and Eight O'Clock as the
>best canned coffee brands, Carabou and Dunkin Donuts as the best drip
>coffee from chains.
>
>We now have a Keurig so we get K-cups. I get an assortment but my
>tastes run to bold, cark and bitter. I like Jet Fuel and Black Tiger
>from Coffee People. Nuclear powered beans.

chains? when you get it straight away.

aloha,
Cea

On 8/20/2010 4:18 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
> Consumer survets tend to rank Chock Full O Nuts and Eight O'Clock as the
> best canned coffee brands, Carabou and Dunkin Donuts as the best drip
> coffee from chains.
>
> We now have a Keurig so we get K-cups. I get an assortment but my
> tastes run to bold, cark and bitter. I like Jet Fuel and Black Tiger
> from Coffee People. Nuclear powered beans.

When I drank coffee, I enjoyed the caffeine. The darker the roast, the
less the caffeine, so I drank mild, or Breakfast Blend.

Becca

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:29:07 -1000, pure kona wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:21:38 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:45:05 -1000, pure kona wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:49:08 -0400, blake murphy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:16:24 -0700 (PDT), Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>
>>i should try the high-priced spread at least once. but i know i won't go
>>as far as roasting and grinding my own beans.
>>
>>maybe i'll get a small amount of roasted kona beans to grind at the store.
>>i think they have such. i'll have to overcome sticker shock.
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
> Try it from a farmer who freshly roasts and it ought to cost less
> too
>
> aloha,
> Cea

i should save up some nickels and get some from you.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:27:34 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:59:25 -0600, gloria.p wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:35:23 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It seems to me that using fruit scented shampoo, etc. would
>>>>> attract insects.
>>>>
>>>> I love my coconut shampoo and no insects circle me either.
>
>>> Unlike humans, I bet insects can tell the difference between real and
>>> artificially created fruit scents.
>
>> maybe so, but they can't drive a car worth shit.
>
> I'm surprised to see you, of all people, spreading stereotypes
> like that.
>
> nancy

when my mother woke up one morning from uneasy dreams, she found herself
changed in her bed into a monstrous insect.

your pal,
franz

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:30:59 -1000, pure kona wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:22:38 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"spamtrap1888" > wrote
>>>
>>> Hot dogs are the biggest food choking hazard for children. From a
>>> February article calling for hot dog redesign:
>>>
>>> "If you were to take the best engineers in the world and try to design
>>> the perfect plug for a child's airway, it would be a hot dog," says
>>> statement author Gary Smith, director of the Center for Injury
>>> Research and Policy at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus,
>>> Ohio. "I'm a pediatric emergency doctor, and to try to get them out
>>> once they're wedged in, it's almost impossible."
>>
>>I recently saw where the dog has been redesigned into a flat shape, more
>>like a patty. They are not in commercial production yet but may be soon.
>>
>>
> wow a flat hot dog, in my mind, looks nasty despite the flavor...
> aloha,
> Cea

don't mind them split and grilled, but flat doesn't map out well in the
brainpan.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:24:35 -0500, Ema Nymton wrote:

> On 8/20/2010 4:18 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
>> Consumer survets tend to rank Chock Full O Nuts and Eight O'Clock as the
>> best canned coffee brands, Carabou and Dunkin Donuts as the best drip
>> coffee from chains.
>>
>> We now have a Keurig so we get K-cups. I get an assortment but my
>> tastes run to bold, cark and bitter. I like Jet Fuel and Black Tiger
>> from Coffee People. Nuclear powered beans.
>
> When I drank coffee, I enjoyed the caffeine. The darker the roast, the
> less the caffeine, so I drank mild, or Breakfast Blend.
>
> Becca

never heard that. one-and-a-half cups of the o'nuts NY roast seems to wake
me up pretty well.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:27:34 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:59:25 -0600, gloria.p wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:35:23 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to me that using fruit scented shampoo, etc. would
>>>>>> attract insects.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love my coconut shampoo and no insects circle me either.
>>
>>>> Unlike humans, I bet insects can tell the difference between real and
>>>> artificially created fruit scents.
>>
>>> maybe so, but they can't drive a car worth shit.
>>
>> I'm surprised to see you, of all people, spreading stereotypes
>> like that.
>>
>> nancy
>
> when my mother woke up one morning from uneasy dreams, she found herself
> changed in her bed into a monstrous insect.
>
> your pal,
> franz

I have a great recipe for roast cockroach ...
Felice

On 8/21/2010 12:35 PM, blake murphy wrote:
>
>> When I drank coffee, I enjoyed the caffeine. The darker the roast, the
>> less the caffeine, so I drank mild, or Breakfast Blend.
>>
>> Becca
> never heard that. one-and-a-half cups of the o'nuts NY roast seems to wake
> me up pretty well.
>
> your pal,
> blake

The information is out there somewhere, but this was all that I could
find offhand.

http://www.gmhpcoffee.com/Caffine.htm

Becca

Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
> On Aug 20, 8:45 pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>> (cover your eyes, coffee connoisseurs) i had given up making coffee at home
>>>> for about ten years, but i find i like the Chock Full O Nuts NY Roast
>>>> coffee. but i confess i first bought it because it was cheap.
>>> Consumer survets tend to rank Chock Full O Nuts and Eight O'Clock as the
>>> best canned coffee brands, Carabou and Dunkin Donuts as the best drip
>>> coffee from chains.
>>> We now have a Keurig so we get K-cups. I get an assortment but my
>>> tastes run to bold, cark and bitter. I like Jet Fuel and Black Tiger
>>> from Coffee People. Nuclear powered beans.
>> I like bold but not bitter. My favorites, at least those one can
>> get locally, are Dark Magic, Sumatran Reserve, and sometimes
>> Friedrich's French Roast or Tully's House Blend. I always make
>> the smallest cup (on my machine, I think that is 6 oz; on the most
>> expensive machine, you can get 4 oz) and then use a lot of milk.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> I like bold but not bitter coffee, too. That's why I'm a Chock Full
> o'Nuts NY Roast fan. It's got tons of flavor but it's not bitter. I
> am very low tech when it comes to coffee. I have a 4 cup Mr Coffee
> machine with a timer. I fill my travel mug with room for milk, which I
> drink in the car while commuting. The rest of the pot is what I drink
> at home while I'm getting ready. If I used a Keurig machine, I'd have
> to run the machine 2 or 3 times to get the same qty of coffee.

My problem is that I don't make great coffee. I was doing okay
with my Cuisinart grind and brew (or something like that), but
then the mechanism acquired something that made the coffee taste
bad. I cleaned it and cleaned it, and it still tasted bad.
That's when I got the Keurig. I still need to try to get piñon
coffee made in K-Cup form.

--
Jean B.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:42:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 8:45 pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>>> blake murphy wrote:

>> I like bold but not bitter coffee, too. That's why I'm a Chock Full
>> o'Nuts NY Roast fan. It's got tons of flavor but it's not bitter. I
>> am very low tech when it comes to coffee. I have a 4 cup Mr Coffee
>> machine with a timer. I fill my travel mug with room for milk, which I
>> drink in the car while commuting. The rest of the pot is what I drink
>> at home while I'm getting ready. If I used a Keurig machine, I'd have
>> to run the machine 2 or 3 times to get the same qty of coffee.
>
>My problem is that I don't make great coffee. I was doing okay
>with my Cuisinart grind and brew (or something like that), but
>then the mechanism acquired something that made the coffee taste
>bad. I cleaned it and cleaned it, and it still tasted bad.
>That's when I got the Keurig. I still need to try to get piñon
>coffee made in K-Cup form.

Lots of aspects to making good coffee. One is be sure the coffee
maker is clean because old stuff hangs out and that's what you will
taste. There is a vinegar/water solution that is recommended, half
and half- pour that into your coffee maker and turn the thing on. It's
amazing what will settle (and that you can see) in the carafe. Really
cleans the coffee maker out and doesn't hurt a thing. Supposed to do
about every 6 months or more if needed. Read the directions that came
with your coffee maker.

Another thing is the kind of water you use really can affect the
flavor of the coffee. If you have a hard or soft water, the build-up
can affect the flavor. (Personally we only have rainwater but I do
read that other types of water leave deposits- so the cleaning thing
above too.) Friends who live in town have sort of brackish water and
the coffee we're used to, does taste different.

And then of course beans. Remnants of old beans that had lots of oil
will hang out in your coffee maker, so clean it. Flavored beans leave
miniscule amounts of their flavor too.

Oh yes different coffee makers matter too. Some that have too hot a
warming plate, where the carafe sits, actually keep cooking the coffee
and making it less that at its best.

So to make the best you can, have a clean coffee maker, clean water
and some freshly roasted beans or a fresh can or package of 8 O'clock
stuff.

Just my $.02 but it all matters, I think if you want to try for the
best taste.

aloha,
Cea

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:23:54 -0400, Felice wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:27:34 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:59:25 -0600, gloria.p wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:35:23 -0500, Janet Wilder
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to me that using fruit scented shampoo, etc. would
>>>>>>> attract insects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love my coconut shampoo and no insects circle me either.
>>>
>>>>> Unlike humans, I bet insects can tell the difference between real and
>>>>> artificially created fruit scents.
>>>
>>>> maybe so, but they can't drive a car worth shit.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised to see you, of all people, spreading stereotypes
>>> like that.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> when my mother woke up one morning from uneasy dreams, she found herself
>> changed in her bed into a monstrous insect.
>>
>> your pal,
>> franz
>
> I have a great recipe for roast cockroach ...
> Felice

we just put an apple in her back.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:59:37 -1000, pure kona wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:42:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>>Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>> On Aug 20, 8:45 pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>>>> blake murphy wrote:
>
>>> I like bold but not bitter coffee, too. That's why I'm a Chock Full
>>> o'Nuts NY Roast fan. It's got tons of flavor but it's not bitter. I
>>> am very low tech when it comes to coffee. I have a 4 cup Mr Coffee
>>> machine with a timer. I fill my travel mug with room for milk, which I
>>> drink in the car while commuting. The rest of the pot is what I drink
>>> at home while I'm getting ready. If I used a Keurig machine, I'd have
>>> to run the machine 2 or 3 times to get the same qty of coffee.
>>
>>My problem is that I don't make great coffee. I was doing okay
>>with my Cuisinart grind and brew (or something like that), but
>>then the mechanism acquired something that made the coffee taste
>>bad. I cleaned it and cleaned it, and it still tasted bad.
>>That's when I got the Keurig. I still need to try to get piñon
>>coffee made in K-Cup form.
>
> Lots of aspects to making good coffee. One is be sure the coffee
> maker is clean because old stuff hangs out and that's what you will
> taste. There is a vinegar/water solution that is recommended, half
> and half- pour that into your coffee maker and turn the thing on. It's
> amazing what will settle (and that you can see) in the carafe. Really
> cleans the coffee maker out and doesn't hurt a thing. Supposed to do
> about every 6 months or more if needed. Read the directions that came
> with your coffee maker.

this guy says once a month. the method is he

<http://ezinearticles.com/?How-To-Clean-A-Coffee-Maker&id=57769>

....but i usually forget for a month or two.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:28:12 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:59:37 -1000, pure kona wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:42:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>>Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>>> On Aug 20, 8:45 pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>>>>> blake murphy wrote:

>> Lots of aspects to making good coffee. One is be sure the coffee
>> maker is clean because old stuff hangs out and that's what you will
>> taste. There is a vinegar/water solution that is recommended, half
>> and half- pour that into your coffee maker and turn the thing on. It's
>> amazing what will settle (and that you can see) in the carafe. Really
>> cleans the coffee maker out and doesn't hurt a thing. Supposed to do
>> about every 6 months or more if needed. Read the directions that came
>> with your coffee maker.
>
>this guy says once a month. the method is he
>
><http://ezinearticles.com/?How-To-Clean-A-Coffee-Maker&id=57769>
>
>...but i usually forget for a month or two.
>
>your pal,
>blake

I'll go with his idea. But it is important for the reasons stated .If
your coffee doesn't taste as you want it to, start by cleaning up its
innards. If not it would be like having soup with the same old spoon-
never washed yuck.

Thanks Blake.

aloha,
Cea

pure kona wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:42:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>> On Aug 20, 8:45 pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>>>> blake murphy wrote:
>
>>> I like bold but not bitter coffee, too. That's why I'm a Chock Full
>>> o'Nuts NY Roast fan. It's got tons of flavor but it's not bitter. I
>>> am very low tech when it comes to coffee. I have a 4 cup Mr Coffee
>>> machine with a timer. I fill my travel mug with room for milk, which I
>>> drink in the car while commuting. The rest of the pot is what I drink
>>> at home while I'm getting ready. If I used a Keurig machine, I'd have
>>> to run the machine 2 or 3 times to get the same qty of coffee.
>> My problem is that I don't make great coffee. I was doing okay
>> with my Cuisinart grind and brew (or something like that), but
>> then the mechanism acquired something that made the coffee taste
>> bad. I cleaned it and cleaned it, and it still tasted bad.
>> That's when I got the Keurig. I still need to try to get piñon
>> coffee made in K-Cup form.
>
> Lots of aspects to making good coffee. One is be sure the coffee
> maker is clean because old stuff hangs out and that's what you will
> taste. There is a vinegar/water solution that is recommended, half
> and half- pour that into your coffee maker and turn the thing on. It's
> amazing what will settle (and that you can see) in the carafe. Really
> cleans the coffee maker out and doesn't hurt a thing. Supposed to do
> about every 6 months or more if needed. Read the directions that came
> with your coffee maker.
>
> Another thing is the kind of water you use really can affect the
> flavor of the coffee. If you have a hard or soft water, the build-up
> can affect the flavor. (Personally we only have rainwater but I do
> read that other types of water leave deposits- so the cleaning thing
> above too.) Friends who live in town have sort of brackish water and
> the coffee we're used to, does taste different.
>
> And then of course beans. Remnants of old beans that had lots of oil
> will hang out in your coffee maker, so clean it. Flavored beans leave
> miniscule amounts of their flavor too.
>
> Oh yes different coffee makers matter too. Some that have too hot a
> warming plate, where the carafe sits, actually keep cooking the coffee
> and making it less that at its best.
>
> So to make the best you can, have a clean coffee maker, clean water
> and some freshly roasted beans or a fresh can or package of 8 O'clock
> stuff.
>
> Just my $.02 but it all matters, I think if you want to try for the
> best taste.
>
> aloha,
> Cea

Thanks, Cea. I THINK I tried the vinegar, but I will do that
again. If I ever get that thing producing decent coffee again,
I'll have to try yours--and get more pinon coffee.

--
Jean B.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:59:37 -1000, pure kona wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:42:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>>> On Aug 20, 8:45 pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>>>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>> I like bold but not bitter coffee, too. That's why I'm a Chock Full
>>>> o'Nuts NY Roast fan. It's got tons of flavor but it's not bitter. I
>>>> am very low tech when it comes to coffee. I have a 4 cup Mr Coffee
>>>> machine with a timer. I fill my travel mug with room for milk, which I
>>>> drink in the car while commuting. The rest of the pot is what I drink
>>>> at home while I'm getting ready. If I used a Keurig machine, I'd have
>>>> to run the machine 2 or 3 times to get the same qty of coffee.
>>> My problem is that I don't make great coffee. I was doing okay
>>> with my Cuisinart grind and brew (or something like that), but
>>> then the mechanism acquired something that made the coffee taste
>>> bad. I cleaned it and cleaned it, and it still tasted bad.
>>> That's when I got the Keurig. I still need to try to get piñon
>>> coffee made in K-Cup form.
>> Lots of aspects to making good coffee. One is be sure the coffee
>> maker is clean because old stuff hangs out and that's what you will
>> taste. There is a vinegar/water solution that is recommended, half
>> and half- pour that into your coffee maker and turn the thing on. It's
>> amazing what will settle (and that you can see) in the carafe. Really
>> cleans the coffee maker out and doesn't hurt a thing. Supposed to do
>> about every 6 months or more if needed. Read the directions that came
>> with your coffee maker.
>
> this guy says once a month. the method is he
>
> <http://ezinearticles.com/?How-To-Clean-A-Coffee-Maker&id=57769>
>
> ...but i usually forget for a month or two.
>
> your pal,
> blake

That looks useful. Thanks.

--
Jean B.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:02:27 -0400, Jean B. wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:59:37 -1000, pure kona wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:42:40 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Catmandy (Sheryl) wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 20, 8:45 pm, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>>> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>>>>>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>>> I like bold but not bitter coffee, too. That's why I'm a Chock Full
>>>>> o'Nuts NY Roast fan. It's got tons of flavor but it's not bitter. I
>>>>> am very low tech when it comes to coffee. I have a 4 cup Mr Coffee
>>>>> machine with a timer. I fill my travel mug with room for milk, which I
>>>>> drink in the car while commuting. The rest of the pot is what I drink
>>>>> at home while I'm getting ready. If I used a Keurig machine, I'd have
>>>>> to run the machine 2 or 3 times to get the same qty of coffee.
>>>> My problem is that I don't make great coffee. I was doing okay
>>>> with my Cuisinart grind and brew (or something like that), but
>>>> then the mechanism acquired something that made the coffee taste
>>>> bad. I cleaned it and cleaned it, and it still tasted bad.
>>>> That's when I got the Keurig. I still need to try to get piñon
>>>> coffee made in K-Cup form.
>>> Lots of aspects to making good coffee. One is be sure the coffee
>>> maker is clean because old stuff hangs out and that's what you will
>>> taste. There is a vinegar/water solution that is recommended, half
>>> and half- pour that into your coffee maker and turn the thing on. It's
>>> amazing what will settle (and that you can see) in the carafe. Really
>>> cleans the coffee maker out and doesn't hurt a thing. Supposed to do
>>> about every 6 months or more if needed. Read the directions that came
>>> with your coffee maker.
>>
>> this guy says once a month. the method is he
>>
>> <http://ezinearticles.com/?How-To-Clean-A-Coffee-Maker&id=57769>
>>
>> ...but i usually forget for a month or two.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> That looks useful. Thanks.

seems to work and it's cheap.

your pal,
blake