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Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to
buy in the UK? Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and probably expensive!!) Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using it? -- Thanks in advance Dan Williams |
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Dan Williams wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to > buy in the UK? > > Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of > having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can > buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and > probably expensive!!) > > Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using > it? > > -- > > Thanks in advance > > Dan Williams It's called a food processor. Most come with grating disks of various sizes. -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:25:03 +0000, Kate Dicey wrote:
> > It's called a food processor. Most come with grating disks of various > sizes. I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food processor, made just for grating cheese. By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment on to it, i could have done the job by hand. -- Thanks in advance Dan Williams |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC), Dan Williams
> wrote: | On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:25:03 +0000, Kate Dicey wrote: | | > | > It's called a food processor. Most come with grating disks of various | > sizes. | | I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food | processor, made just for grating cheese. | | By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment on to | it, i could have done the job by hand. Which is why we buy cooking cheese in 1kg lumps. Then we store the result in the freezer in 500g margerine tubs. -- Dave Fawthrop > Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile. Some posters object to these FAQS and post lies about me :-( I wonder why? ;o) |
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In message >, Dave Fawthrop
> writes >On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC), Dan Williams > wrote: > >| On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:25:03 +0000, Kate Dicey wrote: >| >| > >| > It's called a food processor. Most come with grating disks of various >| > sizes. >| >| I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food >| processor, made just for grating cheese. >| >| By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment on to >| it, i could have done the job by hand. > >Which is why we buy cooking cheese in 1kg lumps. Then we store the result >in the freezer in 500g margerine tubs. > What do you define as 'cooking cheese'? -- June Hughes |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:33:02 +0000, June Hughes
> wrote: | In message >, Dave Fawthrop | > writes | >On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC), Dan Williams | > wrote: | > | >| On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:25:03 +0000, Kate Dicey wrote: | >| | >| > | >| > It's called a food processor. Most come with grating disks of various | >| > sizes. | >| | >| I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food | >| processor, made just for grating cheese. | >| | >| By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment on to | >| it, i could have done the job by hand. | > | >Which is why we buy cooking cheese in 1kg lumps. Then we store the result | >in the freezer in 500g margerine tubs. | > | What do you define as 'cooking cheese'? White Cheddar from Lidl. For eating we have better cheese. Dave F |
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Dan Williams wrote:
> I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food > processor, made just for grating cheese. > > By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment on to > it, i could have done the job by hand. Keep it out on the work surface! Mine lives out, along with the kettle and the Bamix. The Toaster lives in the cupboard... -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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In message >, Kate Dicey
> writes >Dan Williams wrote: > >> I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food >> processor, made just for grating cheese. >> >> By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment on to >> it, i could have done the job by hand. > >Keep it out on the work surface! Mine lives out, along with the kettle >and the Bamix. The Toaster lives in the cupboard... > Wish I could. Work surface is tiny. (Kitchen around 8'6" at most by 6' ![]() -- June Hughes |
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In message >, June Hughes
> writes >Wish I could. Work surface is tiny. (Kitchen around 8'6" at most by >6' ![]() That *is* titchy. I've got a luxurious 8'x12'. There's even room for a small marble topped wrought iron dining table that I nicked from Cafe de la Gare in Waterloo, and seating for four. Out on the work surface at present is my steamer, juice extractor, microwave and a ghastly triangular glass dish that I got as a xmas present (haven't 'conveniently' smashed it yet) and use as a fruit bowl. Another even more ghastly xmas present (thin glass vase in a weird metal holder) from the cleaner is going to have to remain conspicuous for the moment as she comes in twice a week, as long as I can remember to hide it when I've got visitors. -- congokid Good restaurants in London? Number one on Google http://congokid.com |
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On 22/01/2004 at 22:37:03, June Hughes typed:
> In message >, Kate > Dicey > writes > > Dan Williams wrote: > > > >> I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food > >> processor, made just for grating cheese. > > > > >> By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment > on to >> it, i could have done the job by hand. > > > > Keep it out on the work surface! Mine lives out, along with the > > kettle and the Bamix. The Toaster lives in the cupboard... > > > Wish I could. Work surface is tiny. (Kitchen around 8'6" at most by > 6' ![]() AOL. Mine's 8' x 6' but I reckon I'll squeeze a FP in once I get round to buying one. It can live where the unused deep fryer presently lingers with intent to remind me of money wasted. -- Abso [at] ukrm [dot] net - Ignore header email address The uk.people.consumers.ebay FAQ is at www.upce.org.uk I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn't find any. |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC), Dan Williams
> wrote: >On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:25:03 +0000, Kate Dicey wrote: > >> It's called a food processor. Most come with grating disks of various >> sizes. > >I was wondering if there was anything smaller than a full size food >processor, made just for grating cheese. > >By the time i've got it out the cupboard, put the right attachment on to >it, i could have done the job by hand. Et voila! There's your answer. I use a stainless steel box grater and can produce a cup of grated cheese in under a minute with *very* minimal washing up. The ol' FP can grate the same amount in a few seconds, but there's storage space, dragging out, and a good amount of clean-up time. See various rfc threads on 'gadgets.' There's doubtless an electric nutmeg grater out there somewhere, but who'd want one? As I'm sure I've mentioned before, I was given an Italian (manual crank) Parmesean cheese grater. I used it once. That sucker had 27 separate (washable) parts! As for smaller than an FP, if you need a *lot* of grated cheese, a similar, smaller gadget will need to be emptied/scraped out frequently. See: http://secure.igia.com/prodetail.cfm?ID=AT7723 for something you *really* don't want to clean. Or even have shoot cheese shreds all over your kitchen. I don't think: http://store.yahoo.com/flyyourflag/omelchgrmoar.html is what you have in mind. Perhaps this? http://www.1-800-espresso.com/lapav-...rater-177.html Oh, and if you click on the small 'cheese grater' pic, you will see my Italian version (the red one with a crank in the back). Is http://tinyurl.com/2wsj7 a possibility? |
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>Frogleg croaked:
> >As I'm sure I've mentioned before, I was given an Italian (manual >crank) Parmesean cheese grater. I used it once. That sucker had 27 >separate (washable) parts! Um, Italians don't consider washing their parts. hehe ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:12:16 +0000 (UTC), Dan Williams
> wrote: | Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to | buy in the UK? | | Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of | having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can | buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and | probably expensive!!) | | Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using | it? We use a Magimix 5100, One kilogram cut into five. Brrp, Brrp, Brrp, Brrp, Brrp, Done apart from washing up. May be a bit expensive though :-( I will also do most other mixing, slicing, grating, juicing jobs as well :-) -- Dave Fawthrop > Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile. Some posters object to these FAQS and post lies about me :-( I wonder why? ;o) |
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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
> We use a Magimix 5100, > One kilogram cut into five. > Brrp, Brrp, Brrp, Brrp, Brrp, Done apart from washing up. That's what I use too - and all the bits go in the dishwasher, so washing up is no problem! > > May be a bit expensive though :-( > I will also do most other mixing, slicing, grating, > juicing jobs as well :-) Love my juicer! And I didn't think it was an expensive machine for the use I give it! -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Dan Williams wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to > buy in the UK? > > Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of > having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can > buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and > probably expensive!!) > > Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using > it? I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? nancy |
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In message >, Nancy Young
> writes >Dan Williams wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to >> buy in the UK? >> >> Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of >> having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can >> buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and >> probably expensive!!) >> >> Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using >> it? > >I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... >do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? > >nancy I don't think we have them here. What exactly are they, please? -- June Hughes |
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June Hughes wrote:
> > In message ?, Nancy Young > ? writes > ?Dan Williams wrote: > ?? > ?? Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to > ?? buy in the UK? > ?? > ?? Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of > ?? having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can > ?? buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and > ?? probably expensive!!) > ?? > ?? Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using > ?? it? > ? > ?I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... > ?do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? > ? > ?nancy > I don't think we have them here. What exactly are they, please? > -- > June Hughes Large-drum rotary grater. Powered, I believe. |
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In message >, S Viemeister
> writes >June Hughes wrote: >> >> In message ?, Nancy Young >> ? writes >> ?Dan Williams wrote: >> ?? >> ?? Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to >> ?? buy in the UK? >> ?? >> ?? Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of >> ?? having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets >>that you can >> ?? buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and >> ?? probably expensive!!) >> ?? >> ?? Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using >> ?? it? >> ? >> ?I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... >> ?do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? >> ? >> ?nancy >> I don't think we have them here. What exactly are they, please? >> -- >> June Hughes > >Large-drum rotary grater. Powered, I believe. > Oh thanks. I don't see that I need one of those. (Can't believe I said that ![]() -- June Hughes |
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June Hughes wrote:
> > In message ?, S Viemeister > ? writes > ?June Hughes wrote: > ?? > ?? In message ?, Nancy Young > ?? ? writes > ?? ?Dan Williams wrote: > ?? ?? > ?? ?? Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to > ?? ?? buy in the UK? > ?? ?? > ?? ?? Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of > ?? ?? having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets > ??that you can > ?? ?? buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and > ?? ?? probably expensive!!) > ?? ?? > ?? ?? Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using > ?? ?? it? > ?? ? > ?? ?I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... > ?? ?do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? > ?? ? > ?? ?nancy > ?? I don't think we have them here. What exactly are they, please? > ?? -- > ?? June Hughes > ? > ?Large-drum rotary grater. Powered, I believe. > ? > Oh thanks. I don't see that I need one of those. (Can't believe I said > that ![]() > I have the rotary attachment for my KitchenAid - so I don't need the Salad Shooter, either! Sheila |
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June Hughes wrote:
> > In message >, Nancy Young > >I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... > >do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? > I don't think we have them here. What exactly are they, please? It's an electric device that you use to slice and shred for salads, whatever. I went to http://www.saladshooter.com for a joke, sure enough they have a site. Look around and you'll find a picture of one. I have no idea if they make them for use in the UK. nancy |
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In message >, Nancy Young
> writes >June Hughes wrote: >> >> In message >, Nancy Young > >> >I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... >> >do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? > >> I don't think we have them here. What exactly are they, please? > >It's an electric device that you use to slice and shred for salads, >whatever. I went to http://www.saladshooter.com for a joke, sure >enough they have a site. Look around and you'll find a picture of >one. I have no idea if they make them for use in the UK. > >nancy Thanks Nancy. Looks a bit like the slicer Kenwood brought out before Christmas. I have an attachment for the KitchenAid that does similar things but it is never used - mainly because by the time I have got it out and attached to the mixer, I could have done the job by hand. -- June Hughes |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:32:35 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote: >Dan Williams wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to >> buy in the UK? >> >> Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of >> having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can >> buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and >> probably expensive!!) >> >> Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using >> it? > >I don't have one, but seems like people use them to grate cheese ... >do they sell Salad Shooters in the UK? Nah - the gun laws are very strict and salads are a protected species. -- Phil C. |
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![]() "Phil C." > wrote in message ... > Nah - the gun laws are very strict and salads are a protected species. Pah.. just not fair is it? ![]() O |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > "Phil C." > wrote in message > ... > > > Nah - the gun laws are very strict and salads are a protected species. > > Pah.. just not fair is it? ![]() > > O You ARE allowed to use a bowandarrers on certain Sunday afternoons... -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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>Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to >> buy in the UK? ======================= I use my food processor (Cuisinart) to grate cheese. |
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In message >, Dan Williams
> writes >Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to >buy in the UK? > >Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of >having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can >buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and >probably expensive!!) > >Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using >it? > If I have a lot of cheese to do, I use the Magimix but if that is all you are going to use it for, it works out a bit expensive. -- June Hughes |
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>Dan Williams pleads:
> >Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to >buy in the UK? I'm sure there are many to choose from... what quantity of cheese are you looking to grate? >Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of >having to grate a slab of cheddar??? Cheddar isn't grated, it's generally not dry enough, not even when well aged... you must mean *shredded*. One of the best ways to shred cheddar is with a meat grinder. ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> > Cheddar isn't grated, it's generally not dry enough, not even when well aged... > you must mean *shredded*. One of the best ways to shred cheddar is with a meat > grinder That would probably be the ideal tool for making a large quantity of a southern favorite Pimento Cheese for sandwiches. I just use my cuisinart for large amounts and hand grater for smaller. Goomba |
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Goomba38 > wrote:
>PENMART01 wrote: > >> >> Cheddar isn't grated, it's generally not dry enough, not even when >well aged... What's your excuse? >> you must mean *shredded*. One of the best ways to shred cheddar is >with a meat >> grinder Do you even try to be honest any more? >That would probably be the ideal tool for making a >large quantity of a southern favorite Pimento Cheese for >sandwiches. I just use my cuisinart for large amounts >and hand grater for smaller. PC's and Sweet Tea. --Blair "RC Cola and a Moon Pie." |
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![]() "Dan Williams" > wrote in message ... > Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to > buy in the UK? > > Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of > having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can > buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and > probably expensive!!) > > Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using > it? > > -- > > Thanks in advance > > Dan Williams We have a 20 year old mouli grater which does the job just fine for two or three sandwiches - of course if you have to grate a few tons of cheese I suppose it *might* be worth getting an electric version. Have found its still available http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...435710-3859860 Ardley |
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![]() "Dan Williams" > wrote in message ... > Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to > buy in the UK? > Dan Williams If you have lots to grate, the shredder disk on a food processor works well. The electric graters we use for parmigiano don't work on softer cheeses worth a darn. I sometimes use the Mouli, but it clogs, does small pieces at a time and generally isn't all that efficient. |
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In message >, Judith Umbria
> writes > >"Dan Williams" > wrote in message .. . >> Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to >> buy in the UK? >> Dan Williams > >If you have lots to grate, the shredder disk on a food processor works well. >The electric graters we use for parmigiano don't work on softer cheeses >worth a darn. >I sometimes use the Mouli, but it clogs, does small pieces at a time and >generally isn't all that efficient. > > I used to use the magimix for parmesan using the parmesan disc but these days use an Alessi grater-thingy, which all the family use at mealtimes. It grates easily and finely. However, most of the time, we just shave the parmesan off with a potato peeler. -- June Hughes |
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Dan Williams > wrote in message >. ..
> Does anyone know if there's a decent electric cheese grater available to > buy in the UK? > > Surely there must be some sort of gadget that can take away the effort of > having to grate a slab of cheddar??? I've seen in supermarkets that you can > buy packs of cheese already grated, but this is just far too lazy (and > probably expensive!!) > > Anyone know where i can order one from and have any good experiences using > it? Dan, the Black and Decker company makes a gadget called the "Gizmo Grater" which is exactly the item you are describing a need for. It is a hand held, electric, cheese grater. You can purchase it from Amazon.com for $24.99 (U.S currency). I swear, the "regular" geniuses in this newsgroup would rather see how many posts they can accumulate in a years time than give a simple answer to a simple question. The gadget does work well. The Heap |
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The Heap wrote:
> Dan, the Black and Decker company makes a gadget called the "Gizmo > Grater" which is exactly the item you are describing a need for. It is > a hand held, electric, cheese grater. You can purchase it from > Amazon.com for $24.99 (U.S currency). I swear, the "regular" geniuses > in this newsgroup would rather see how many posts they can accumulate > in a years time than give a simple answer to a simple question. The > gadget does work well. So, will it work in the UK? nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> > The Heap wrote: > > > Dan, the Black and Decker company makes a gadget called the "Gizmo > > Grater" which is exactly the item you are describing a need for. It is > > a hand held, electric, cheese grater. You can purchase it from > > Amazon.com for $24.99 (U.S currency). I swear, the "regular" geniuses > > in this newsgroup would rather see how many posts they can accumulate > > in a years time than give a simple answer to a simple question. The > > gadget does work well. > > So, will it work in the UK? > With a converter and plug adaptor. |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:44:32 -0500, Nancy Young >
wrote: | The Heap wrote: | | > Dan, the Black and Decker company makes a gadget called the "Gizmo | > Grater" which is exactly the item you are describing a need for. It is | > a hand held, electric, cheese grater. You can purchase it from | > Amazon.com for $24.99 (U.S currency). I swear, the "regular" geniuses | > in this newsgroup would rather see how many posts they can accumulate | > in a years time than give a simple answer to a simple question. The | > gadget does work well. | | So, will it work in the UK? It must work on 220 - 240 volts 50 cps supply. Dave F |
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Nancy Young > wrote in message >...
> The Heap wrote: > > > Dan, the Black and Decker company makes a gadget called the "Gizmo > > Grater" which is exactly the item you are describing a need for. It is > > a hand held, electric, cheese grater. You can purchase it from > > Amazon.com for $24.99 (U.S currency). I swear, the "regular" geniuses > > in this newsgroup would rather see how many posts they can accumulate > > in a years time than give a simple answer to a simple question. The > > gadget does work well. > > So, will it work in the UK? > > nancy The only hitch is: If you are a US citizen in the UK with an IQ over 50 but under 100 standing on one foot and holding your mouth in just the right position it might work provided you have naturally auburn hair. Chalk up another useless (but still counts in the year's total)post for "qwerty". The Heap |
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In message >, The Heap
> writes >Nancy Young > wrote in message >... >> The Heap wrote: >> >> > Dan, the Black and Decker company makes a gadget called the "Gizmo >> > Grater" which is exactly the item you are describing a need for. It is >> > a hand held, electric, cheese grater. You can purchase it from >> > Amazon.com for $24.99 (U.S currency). I swear, the "regular" geniuses >> > in this newsgroup would rather see how many posts they can accumulate >> > in a years time than give a simple answer to a simple question. The >> > gadget does work well. >> >> So, will it work in the UK? >> >> nancy > >The only hitch is: >If you are a US citizen in the UK with an IQ over 50 but under 100 >standing on one foot and holding your mouth in just the right position >it might work provided you have naturally auburn hair. >Chalk up another useless (but still counts in the year's total)post >for "qwerty". > >The Heap <G> -- June Hughes |
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On 22 Jan 2004 15:47:13 -0800, The Heap wrote:
> Dan, the Black and Decker company makes a gadget called the "Gizmo > Grater" which is exactly the item you are describing a need for. It is > a hand held, electric, cheese grater. You can purchase it from > Amazon.com for $24.99 (U.S currency). I swear, the "regular" geniuses > in this newsgroup would rather see how many posts they can accumulate > in a years time than give a simple answer to a simple question. The > gadget does work well. > > The Heap Thanks for that mate. Its taken me this long to trail through all the posts before i got to yours!! But, yes, thats exactly what i'm looking for. I'll take a look and see if i can get hold of one that will work in the UK. I also did a search on Amazon and came up with this lot. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...610947-9465239 Not sure if any of them are electric though, but some look easier to use than the usual cheese graters i've mauled by hand on before! -- Thanks again Dan Williams |
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Dan Williams wrote:
> Not sure if any of them are electric though, but some look easier to use > than the usual cheese graters i've mauled by hand on before! Oh, and note that many of them look like the Salad Shooter I pointed out, except they are manual. You're welcome. nancy |
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