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Well, last weekend was all about the food.

This weekend is all about the wine.

Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying to
get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our next
restock coming in on Monday.

Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
cases coming in.

That should see us right till after NYE.

I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!

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PeterL2 wrote:
> Well, last weekend was all about the food.
>
> This weekend is all about the wine.
>
> Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying to
> get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our next
> restock coming in on Monday.
>
> Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
> cases coming in.
>
> That should see us right till after NYE.
>
> I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!
>



Are you really planning to go through 25 cases in three months?
100 bottles a month? Yikes.

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On Oct 1, 8:58*am, Gloria P > wrote:
> PeterL2 wrote:
> > Well, last weekend was all about the food.

>
> > This weekend is all about the wine.

>
> > Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying to
> > get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our next
> > restock coming in on Monday.

>
> > Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
> > cases coming in.

>
> > That should see us right till after NYE.

>
> > I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!

>
> Are you really planning to go through 25 cases in three months?
> 100 bottles a month? *Yikes.
>
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Geez...and I thought a bottle a day was bad.
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> PeterL2 wrote:
>> Well, last weekend was all about the food.
>>
>> This weekend is all about the wine.
>>
>> Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying

to
>> get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our next
>> restock coming in on Monday.
>>
>> Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
>> cases coming in.
>>
>> That should see us right till after NYE.
>>
>> I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!
>>

>
>
> Are you really planning to go through 25 cases in three months?
> 100 bottles a month? Yikes.
>
> gloria p
>




Nope, it should last till *way* after NYE....... well, depending on how
much all my free loading friends drink ;-)



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Australia


If we are not meant to eat animals,
why are they made of meat?


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> PeterL2 wrote:
>> Well, last weekend was all about the food.
>>
>> This weekend is all about the wine.
>>
>> Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying

to
>> get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our next
>> restock coming in on Monday.
>>
>> Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
>> cases coming in.
>>
>> That should see us right till after NYE.
>>
>> I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!
>>

>
>
> Are you really planning to go through 25 cases in three months?
> 100 bottles a month? Yikes.
>



My comment was a bit 'tongue in cheek'....... but I did say *after* NYE.
How long is 'after'?? How long is a piece of string??



Judging by a couple of the other comments, maybe I should have supplied a
caveat lector at the end of my post.


Seems rather cioncidental actually........ I had a comment published in an
online newspaper today referring to lack of humour. I should change the
word "Australia" to "The World".

http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,,2...-10229,00.html


Comment #31

So, it's official. Australia has lost it's sense of humour. *Anyone* who
tells a joke from now on, you need to apologize afterwards, because sure
as hell you're going to upset some numbskull somewhere. Build a bridge
people...... and get over it.

Posted by: Peter of Brisbane 1:11am today
Comment 31 of 102



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PeterL > wrote:

> Gloria P > wrote in news:7ik1t0F3198iuU1
> @mid.individual.net:


> >> That should see us right till after NYE.


> > Are you really planning to go through 25 cases in three months?
> > 100 bottles a month? Yikes.
> >

>
>
> My comment was a bit 'tongue in cheek'....... but I did say *after* NYE.
> How long is 'after'?? How long is a piece of string??


I think it has more to do with the common language we share, but don't
use the same way. It is pretty common in the US to use "right after" to
mean "immediately after". In Australian, the phrase "see us right" is
clear, but is seldom used in the US. So in Australia, if the word
"right" is part of the first half of the sentence, it has one meaning,
but in the US, some of us associate "right" with the second half of the
sentence, giving it a different meaning.

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"PeterL2" > wrote in message
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> Well, last weekend was all about the food.
>
> This weekend is all about the wine.
>
> Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying to
> get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our next
> restock coming in on Monday.
>
> Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
> cases coming in.
>
> That should see us right till after NYE.
>
> I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!
>


Not sure what the liability laws are down there, but in the states we can be
held responsible if we get someone liquored up and they have a head-on on
the way home. I just organized a tasting for my Men's Club and our
distributer was very clear about us making sure we kept the pour to 2 oz. or
less per wine. We tasted 7 wines in 90 minutes and served food as well so we
figured this was about right.

Jon

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On Oct 2, 4:12*am, "Zeppo" > wrote:
> "PeterL2" > wrote in message
>
> .5...
>
> > Well, last weekend was all about the food.

>
> > This weekend is all about the wine.

>
> > Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying to
> > get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our next
> > restock coming in on Monday.

>
> > Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
> > cases coming in.

>
> > That should see us right till after NYE.

>
> > I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!

>
> Not sure what the liability laws are down there, but in the states we can be
> held responsible if we get someone liquored up and they have a head-on on
> the way home. I just organized a tasting for my Men's Club and our
> distributer was very clear about us making sure we kept the pour to 2 oz. or
> less per wine. We tasted 7 wines in 90 minutes and served food as well so we
> figured this was about right.
>
> Jon


Draconian laws apply here for licensed establishments that serve
grog including bring your own type eateries
in every state .
Same goes for anything remotely considered a work function .
You ask a good question about individuals however. The precise
answer I am not sure of in every state & territory.
In this state local government act captures private householders via
many aspects if its a party. Local coppers
also can get involved under various powers in this state .

One well known case similar to what Lucas appears to be saying, the
matter relied on a test of duty of care by
the guy (household).
They got done over by a pretty good silk ( Senior counsel ) Where
the learned judge ruled that
brother in law who ended up killing a family on the way home in a
horrible car accident (but the prick lived )
took out a minivan with a family in a high speed head on .

In basic terms it was Xmas knees up and the household laid on heaps
of grog.
The household took the view in their defence that every guest was
accountable for their own actions (which in reality is true ).
However, evidence showed that they did not caution or attempt to
offer a bed ,water, or alternative transport to the killer .

They really came undone when video was shown to the jury taken by the
owner of the household showing brother in law obviously affected by
alcohol
getting into the car and driving off .

The killer got a custodial sentence (later when out to re-offend and
have another prang injuring more folks)

The household ended up having to pay reparations to the surviving
victims .

In the state in which I currently reside alcohol off licensed
premises is a real problem especially with the indigenous
communities
So much so that this month new laws come into play that NO
alcohol whatsoever is allowed within the communities .

The amount mentioned by Lucas not for putting down as an investment
but as he says should last until new years
is a rather telling example of a lifestyle, IMO. Most folks with an
addiction usually are the last to act until some matter or thing
(usually distress)
compels them to reevaluate certain behaviour patterns .

The joke about happy hours and cheap purchases "the more you drink
the more you save" may not be all that funny if some one ends up dead
or injured .

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"Zeppo" > wrote in
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> "PeterL2" > wrote in message
> .5...
>> Well, last weekend was all about the food.
>>
>> This weekend is all about the wine.
>>
>> Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying
>> to get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our
>> next restock coming in on Monday.
>>
>> Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
>> cases coming in.
>>
>> That should see us right till after NYE.
>>
>> I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!
>>

>
> Not sure what the liability laws are down there, but in the states we
> can be held responsible if we get someone liquored up and they have a
> head-on on the way home. I just organized a tasting for my Men's Club
> and our distributer was very clear about us making sure we kept the pour
> to 2 oz. or less per wine. We tasted 7 wines in 90 minutes and served
> food as well so we figured this was about right.
>
> Jon
>
>




We have a very good system here.

There's always a designated non-drinking driver.

The last one we had, the SO wasn't feeling crash hot, so she became the
taxi driver for the night. Our group (which gets together on a regular
basis) all chip in $5 each for petrol and that gives you a pick up and
delivery home afterwards. Luckily, we all live within about 20mins of each
other.

Per couple, it's $10, which is *WAY* cheaper than a taxi both ways......
and a helluva lot cheaper than a DUI fine.

We usually have about 6-8 couples, which works out to $60-$80 for the
petrol. A tank of gas costs us about $60 at the moment, and we'd only use
about 1/4 for all the trips.

So you get picked up, free food, free tasting of as much wine as you want,
and a ride home for $10 per couple.
Life doesn't get any better than that :-)



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Australia


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why are they made of meat?


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PeterL > wrote:

> We have a very good system here.
>
> There's always a designated non-drinking driver.
>
> The last one we had, the SO wasn't feeling crash hot, so she became the
> taxi driver for the night. Our group (which gets together on a regular
> basis) all chip in $5 each for petrol and that gives you a pick up and
> delivery home afterwards. Luckily, we all live within about 20mins of each
> other.
>
> Per couple, it's $10, which is *WAY* cheaper than a taxi both ways......
> and a helluva lot cheaper than a DUI fine.
>
> We usually have about 6-8 couples, which works out to $60-$80 for the
> petrol. A tank of gas costs us about $60 at the moment, and we'd only use
> about 1/4 for all the trips.
>
> So you get picked up, free food, free tasting of as much wine as you want,
> and a ride home for $10 per couple.
> Life doesn't get any better than that :-)


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> PeterL > wrote:
>
>> We have a very good system here.
>>
>> There's always a designated non-drinking driver.
>>
>> The last one we had, the SO wasn't feeling crash hot, so she became the
>> taxi driver for the night. Our group (which gets together on a regular
>> basis) all chip in $5 each for petrol and that gives you a pick up and
>> delivery home afterwards. Luckily, we all live within about 20mins of
>> each other.
>>
>> Per couple, it's $10, which is *WAY* cheaper than a taxi both
>> ways...... and a helluva lot cheaper than a DUI fine.
>>
>> We usually have about 6-8 couples, which works out to $60-$80 for the
>> petrol. A tank of gas costs us about $60 at the moment, and we'd only
>> use about 1/4 for all the trips.
>>
>> So you get picked up, free food, free tasting of as much wine as you
>> want, and a ride home for $10 per couple.
>> Life doesn't get any better than that :-)

>
> Good system Peter!




Sure is. And it's funny, but even the 'drinkers' like to take their turn
at being the driver....... I asked some of the guys why and they told me
it's a sense of pride to know that they are the one person looking after
and protecting their friends, and making sure they're safe and sound. (I
told them they should have joined the Army!!)

Either that, or it's the #1 Rule that the DD is 'off limits' to all pranks
and jokes for the night :-)



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"Zeppo" > wrote in
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>
> "PeterL2" > wrote in message
> .5...
>> Well, last weekend was all about the food.
>>
>> This weekend is all about the wine.
>>
>> Saturday afternoon we have a wine tasting on at home here. I'm trying
>> to get the last 6 or so cases of wine 'moving' to make room for our
>> next restock coming in on Monday.
>>
>> Found some really good deals on some fantastic wines, so now we have 25
>> cases coming in.
>>
>> That should see us right till after NYE.
>>
>> I'm just not looking forward to lugging them all upstairs!!
>>

>
> Not sure what the liability laws are down there, but in the states we
> can be held responsible if we get someone liquored up and they have a
> head-on on the way home.



We've known that about the States for a long time.

But over here, we're a bit more about 'personal responsibility'.

We've had a few cases where some numbnuts has screwed up and tried to sue
someone else over it, but thank heavens, it's always been thrown out in
the end.

One involved an idiot who was drunk and dived off a back fence into a
canal. He hit the bottom, broke his neck and ended up in a wheelchair. He
tried to sue the home owners for not having signs on their fence that
basically said "If you get drunk and dive off here, you may hurt
yourself"!!

It got thrown out. BTW, the (adult) homeowners weren't at home at the time
(o/s on business), he was there partying on with some teenagers.

The other was some numbnuts who got a skinful at a pub and was walkking
home and staggered out into the traffic and was hit. He tried to sue the
pub. He got what he rightfully deserved......... nothing!!


No doubt both those numbnuts have watched 'Merican TV shows where everyone
sues everyone else for vast sums of money.


Maybe it's time the US started preaching 'personal responsibility' rather
than laying wholesale blame up the line.



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"PeterL" > wrote in message ...

| .......
|
| We've known that about the States for a long time.
|
| But over here, we're a bit more about 'personal responsibility'.
|
| We've had a few cases where some numbnuts has screwed up and tried to sue
| someone else over it, but thank heavens, it's always been thrown out in
| the end.
|
| One involved an idiot who was drunk and dived off a back fence into a
| canal. He hit the bottom, broke his neck and ended up in a wheelchair. He
| tried to sue the home owners for not having signs on their fence that
| basically said "If you get drunk and dive off here, you may hurt
| yourself"!!
|
| It got thrown out. BTW, the (adult) homeowners weren't at home at the time
| (o/s on business), he was there partying on with some teenagers.
|
| The other was some numbnuts who got a skinful at a pub and was walkking
| home and staggered out into the traffic and was hit. He tried to sue the
| pub. He got what he rightfully deserved......... nothing!!
|
|
| No doubt both those numbnuts have watched 'Merican TV shows where everyone
| sues everyone else for vast sums of money.
|
|
| Maybe it's time the US started preaching 'personal responsibility' rather
| than laying wholesale blame up the line
........

Yup, we sure are impressed with the Moral Certaintude of you guys in
Australia. Thanks for reminding all of us Americans how superior you
are in this amongst all other ways. Why, to celebrate, don't you print
out your above comments on the printer, then put the paper in the
bottom of a parrot cage.

pavane


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> No doubt both those numbnuts have watched 'Merican TV shows where everyone
> sues everyone else for vast sums of money.


These big lawsuits are big news. Somebody wrote a book about them.
Many of them are indeed thrown out of court. Anybody can sue for nearly
anything. Getting awarded money is another matter. If the award is
unreasonable, it is appealed. Maybe by then, the person suing realizes
that it isn't really somebody elses fault. They are offered a small sum
of money to settle. A condition is that neither party reveal anything
about the settlement.

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>> No doubt both those numbnuts have watched 'Merican TV shows where everyone
>> sues everyone else for vast sums of money.

>
> These big lawsuits are big news. Somebody wrote a book about them.
> Many of them are indeed thrown out of court. Anybody can sue for nearly
> anything. Getting awarded money is another matter. If the award is
> unreasonable, it is appealed. Maybe by then, the person suing realizes
> that it isn't really somebody elses fault. They are offered a small sum
> of money to settle. A condition is that neither party reveal anything
> about the settlement.


One of the strangest cases I ever heard of happened here in Ontario a
few years ago. A woman sued her employer after she crashed her car after
attending a company Christmas party. From what I remember of the
details as reported in the newspapers, she had had a glass of wine at
the Christmas party (maybe two). They had offered her a ride home but
she declined. She then drove to a bar where she had a lot more to drink
and then she crashed her car on the way home from the bar. The company
was found partially responsible and the bar had a greater culpability so
the award IIRC was 25% for the company and 75% for the bar. However, the
bar was out of business and the employer had to pay 100%.

I find this one troubling because IMO the employer had been diligent in
offering her a ride. More important, she was not drunk when she left the
company party, and no evidence that she was over the legal limit to
drive when she left the company party. The way I see it, the company had
done nothing wrong up to the point that she left their function. Their
liability should have ended at that point. It was after she left that
party and went to the bar where she had more to drink... enough to be
intoxicated.

This puts a lot of people in a precarious position. My son had a bit of
a scare shortly after opening his new bar. There was a high profile
multiple fatality accident involving speeding cars and alcohol. The
people in one of the cars had been in his bar earlier in the evening.
Luckily, they had surveillance cameras and computerized records that
cleared them of any liability.


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