Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".

http://business.theglobeandmail.com/.../Business/home

I suggest renaming it "The Other White Meat Flu". :-)

Mark Thorson > wrote:

>Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".

Indeed it is unfair to blame the flu upon pigs, birds,
or anyone other than sniffling people who don't stay
out of public places and don't wash their hands.

Pigs get blamed for a lot of stuff that isn't their fault.

Steve

On Apr 28, 9:55*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> >Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>
> Indeed it is unfair to blame the flu upon pigs, birds,
> or anyone other than sniffling people who don't stay
> out of public places and don't wash their hands.
>
> Pigs get blamed for a lot of stuff that isn't their fault.

Pigs don't speak English. You always blame it on the guy who doesn't
speak English.

In pigs' defense. they didn't put themselves in factory farms, which
is hypothesized to be a causative factor in the genesis of this
strain.
>
> Steve

--Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos

"The 1960's called. They want their recipe back."
--Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
>>Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>
> Indeed it is unfair to blame the flu upon pigs, birds,
> or anyone other than sniffling people who don't stay
> out of public places and don't wash their hands.
>
> Pigs get blamed for a lot of stuff that isn't their fault.
>
> Steve

And if it is called Mexican flu, people will be afraid to eat at Taco Bell

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:05:11 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:


>>
>> Pigs get blamed for a lot of stuff that isn't their fault.
>>
>> Steve
>
>And if it is called Mexican flu, people will be afraid to eat at Taco Bell

If a Muslim contracts swine flu, will Allah keep them from the seventy
virgins?

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:39:35 -0400, Mr. Bill > wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:05:11 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
>wrote:
>

>If a Muslim contracts swine flu, will Allah keep them from the seventy
>virgins?
>
Perhaps, but only after they arrive....

Alex

On Apr 28, 8:21*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>
> http://business.theglobeandmail.com/....20090428.wpor...
>
> I suggest renaming it "The Other White Meat Flu". *:-)

They want to call it the H1N1 flu. I don't know why they can't call
it the Mexican flu - after all, in 1918, the pandemic was Spanish
flu. And this one started in Mexico with a 5-year-old.

N.

In article >, Nancy2 > wrote:
>On Apr 28, 8:21=A0pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>>
>> http://business.theglobeandmail.com/....20090428.wpor...
>>
>> I suggest renaming it "The Other White Meat Flu". =A0:-)
>
>They want to call it the H1N1 flu. I don't know why they can't call
>it the Mexican flu - after all, in 1918, the pandemic was Spanish flu.

Clearly the Pope's to blame.


Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

On Apr 29, 11:24*am, Nancy2 > wrote:
> On Apr 28, 8:21*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> > Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>
> >http://business.theglobeandmail.com/....20090428.wpor...
>
> > I suggest renaming it "The Other White Meat Flu". *:-)
>
> They want to call it the H1N1 flu. *I don't know why they can't call
> it the Mexican flu - after all, in 1918, the pandemic was Spanish
> flu. *And this one started in Mexico with a 5-year-old.
>
> N.

We stopped calling one type the Asian Flu, and started calling it
avian flu. The Muslims and some Jews are upset, since swine are
abhorrant to their dietary laws. Some idiots seem to think they can
avoid this iteration of the flu by avoiding pork products.

Can we find any more misinformation to spread? How about reminding
folks of the vaccine what was it, 20 years ago, for the last outbreak
of swine flu? You know, the one that killed a number of people.

Which one of us had that lovely tagline about the Internet being a
drunken librarian?

maxine in ri

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:21:10 -0700 (PDT), maxine >
wrote:

>On Apr 29, 11:24*am, Nancy2 > wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 8:21*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>
>> > Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>>
>> >http://business.theglobeandmail.com/....20090428.wpor...
>>
>> > I suggest renaming it "The Other White Meat Flu". *:-)
>>
>> They want to call it the H1N1 flu. *I don't know why they can't call
>> it the Mexican flu - after all, in 1918, the pandemic was Spanish
>> flu. *And this one started in Mexico with a 5-year-old.
>>
>> N.
>
>We stopped calling one type the Asian Flu, and started calling it
>avian flu. The Muslims and some Jews are upset, since swine are
>abhorrant to their dietary laws. Some idiots seem to think they can
>avoid this iteration of the flu by avoiding pork products.
>
>Can we find any more misinformation to spread? How about reminding
>folks of the vaccine what was it, 20 years ago, for the last outbreak
>of swine flu? You know, the one that killed a number of people.
>
>Which one of us had that lovely tagline about the Internet being a
>drunken librarian?
>
>maxine in ri

We've put up info on our site (http://foodforu.ca/) about the human
influenza originating in Mexico which has been dubbed even by the
World health Organization at http://www.who.int/en/ as swine
influenza.

Mis-information causes alot of problems, the WHO is the place to get
credible information on this outbreak of human influenza.

On Apr 30, 8:51*am, wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:21:10 -0700 (PDT), maxine >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Apr 29, 11:24*am, Nancy2 > wrote:
> >> On Apr 28, 8:21*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> >> > Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>
> >> >http://business.theglobeandmail.com/....20090428.wpor....
>
> >> > I suggest renaming it "The Other White Meat Flu". *:-)
>
> >> They want to call it the H1N1 flu. *I don't know why they can't call
> >> it the Mexican flu - after all, in 1918, the pandemic was Spanish
> >> flu. *And this one started in Mexico with a 5-year-old.
>
> >> N.
>
> >We stopped calling one type the Asian Flu, and started calling it
> >avian flu. *The Muslims and some Jews are upset, since swine are
> >abhorrant to their dietary laws. *Some idiots seem to think they can
> >avoid this iteration of the flu by avoiding pork products.
>
> >Can we find any more misinformation to spread? *How about reminding
> >folks of the vaccine what was it, 20 years ago, for the last outbreak
> >of swine flu? *You know, the one that killed a number of people.
>
> >Which one of us had that lovely tagline about the Internet being a
> >drunken librarian?
>
> >maxine in ri
>
> We've put up info on our site (http://foodforu.ca/) about the human
> influenza originating in Mexico which has been dubbed even by the
> World health Organization athttp://www.who.int/en/as swine
> influenza.
>
> Mis-information causes alot of problems, the WHO is the place to get
> credible information on this outbreak of human *influenza.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Correction: H1N1 flu. Even the media are trying to behave.

N.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>
>>> Pork producers upset about media calling it "Swine Flu".
>> Indeed it is unfair to blame the flu upon pigs, birds,
>> or anyone other than sniffling people who don't stay
>> out of public places and don't wash their hands.
>>
>> Pigs get blamed for a lot of stuff that isn't their fault.
>>
>> Steve
>
> And if it is called Mexican flu, people will be afraid to eat at Taco Bell
>
>


They should be. The last time I something from Taco Bell was years ago.
I had picked up a beef burrito after an afternoon shift. It tasted okay.
I went home and went to bed and woke up around 5 am feeling like I was
going to explode.

wrote:
> We've put up info on our site (http://foodforu.ca/) about the human
> influenza originating in Mexico which has been dubbed even by the
> World health Organization at http://www.who.int/en/ as swine
> influenza.
>
> Mis-information causes alot of problems, the WHO is the place to get
> credible information on this outbreak of human influenza.

Speaking of that:

Our local FOX station has been running regular updates containing all
manner of misinformation. I got fed up (OB food) with the station's
endless harangue about 159 confirmed swine flu deaths in Mexico
yesterday, and called them up during their evening broadcast. Whoever it
was that answered the phone insisted that the confirmed flu death toll
was 159, even when I referred him to the WHO website and read off the
statistics to him that showed only 26 confirmed swine flu cases and a
mere seven deaths. He laughed when I urged him to check WHO stats, and
said to me... yes, he really said that he'd rather trust the Mexican
government reports because, in so many words, they're there as it
happens and they know what's going on in their country. He also
maintained that WHO "gets it's information late" and related that the US
government had elevated the pandemic alert to Level 5 but that WHO was
still at Level 4, and told me that I must be mistaken when I told him
that WHO had also raised the level to 5.

Throughout the interlude, I was reminded countless times of about the
futility of arguing with idiots.

Before I hung up, I said to the man that I know he works for FOX and
that this is a FOX broadcast, but that they should at least *try* to use
vetted data and not promulgate misinformation and panic. I also
suggested that they try reporting *both* Mexican government and WHO
figures. The man laughed and told me to have a good evening, and I'm
certain that will be the end of it forever.

Pennyaline wrote:

> Our local FOX station has been running regular updates containing all
> manner of misinformation. I got fed up (OB food) with the station's
> endless harangue about 159 confirmed swine flu deaths in Mexico
> yesterday, and called them up during their evening broadcast. Whoever it
> was that answered the phone insisted that the confirmed flu death toll
> was 159, even when I referred him to the WHO website and read off the
> statistics to him that showed only 26 confirmed swine flu cases and a
> mere seven deaths. He laughed when I urged him to check WHO stats, and
> said to me... yes, he really said that he'd rather trust the Mexican
> government reports because, in so many words, they're there as it
> happens and they know what's going on in their country. He also
> maintained that WHO "gets it's information late" and related that the US
> government had elevated the pandemic alert to Level 5 but that WHO was
> still at Level 4, and told me that I must be mistaken when I told him
> that WHO had also raised the level to 5.


Musta been the same misinformation that CNN and HLN were sending out
too.... It wasn't until yesterday (I believe) that anyone tried to
correct the death toll numbers in Mexico and the level was raised to
5/6. Mexico has done a very poor job of syndrome surveillance here not
to mention action.

Now VP Joe is telling *his* family to stay off all public airlines.
Nothing like adding gasoline to the fire.... (and how many of us have
private/gumment air planes to take instead?)

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...
snip
> Before I hung up, I said to the man that I know he works for FOX and that
> this is a FOX broadcast, but that they should at least *try* to use vetted
> data and not promulgate misinformation and panic. I also suggested that
> they try reporting *both* Mexican government and WHO figures. The man
> laughed and told me to have a good evening, and I'm certain that will be
> the end of it forever.

I heard a wonderful term the other day that fits 'newscasting' in today's
world perfectly -- "Entertainment News." Isn't that great? It explains the
shouting, fist pounding, hysteria, second-by-second retelling of minor
details. The 'he said, no he really meant to say, what do you think he said
'-- We were all better off before CNN and the spawn of CNN
Janet

Goomba wrote:
> Musta been the same misinformation that CNN and HLN were sending out
> too.... It wasn't until yesterday (I believe) that anyone tried to
> correct the death toll numbers in Mexico and the level was raised to
> 5/6. Mexico has done a very poor job of syndrome surveillance here not
> to mention action.

The World Health Organization put out up to date information fairly
early in the day yesterday, but they're preaching to a load of ratings
hungry idiots who don't care what the official voices on the matter have
to say if it interferes with spewing whatever keeps viewers tuned in and
turned on.



> Now VP Joe is telling *his* family to stay off all public airlines.
> Nothing like adding gasoline to the fire.... (and how many of us have
> private/gumment air planes to take instead?)

It's a crying shame when the world's health professionals are forced to
surrender credibility to ratings and politics, and are perceived as
ignorant and inefficient to a public that (let's be honest here)
REQUIRES frenzied hysteria to hold its interest.

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Pennyaline" > wrote in message
> ...
> snip
>> Before I hung up, I said to the man that I know he works for FOX and that
>> this is a FOX broadcast, but that they should at least *try* to use vetted
>> data and not promulgate misinformation and panic. I also suggested that
>> they try reporting *both* Mexican government and WHO figures. The man
>> laughed and told me to have a good evening, and I'm certain that will be
>> the end of it forever.
>
> I heard a wonderful term the other day that fits 'newscasting' in today's
> world perfectly -- "Entertainment News." Isn't that great? It explains the
> shouting, fist pounding, hysteria, second-by-second retelling of minor
> details. The 'he said, no he really meant to say, what do you think he said
> '-- We were all better off before CNN and the spawn of CNN
> Janet
>
>
I have been calling it the "news and entertainment hour" for a long
time. The talking heads are a giant insult to any thinking person.

Pennyaline wrote:
> Goomba wrote:
>> Musta been the same misinformation that CNN and HLN were sending out
>> too.... It wasn't until yesterday (I believe) that anyone tried to
>> correct the death toll numbers in Mexico and the level was raised to
>> 5/6. Mexico has done a very poor job of syndrome surveillance here not
>> to mention action.
>
> The World Health Organization put out up to date information fairly
> early in the day yesterday, but they're preaching to a load of ratings
> hungry idiots who don't care what the official voices on the matter have
> to say if it interferes with spewing whatever keeps viewers tuned in and
> turned on.
>
>
>
>> Now VP Joe is telling *his* family to stay off all public airlines.
>> Nothing like adding gasoline to the fire.... (and how many of us have
>> private/gumment air planes to take instead?)
>
> It's a crying shame when the world's health professionals are forced to
> surrender credibility to ratings and politics, and are perceived as
> ignorant and inefficient to a public that (let's be honest here)
> REQUIRES frenzied hysteria to hold its interest.

Unfortunately there seems to be a large segment of the population that
needs the government to "protect them" and is incapable of critical and
independent thinking. Really sad when you think about it.

George wrote:

>> I heard a wonderful term the other day that fits 'newscasting' in
>> today's world perfectly -- "Entertainment News." Isn't that great?
>> It explains the shouting, fist pounding, hysteria, second-by-second
>> retelling of minor details. The 'he said, no he really meant to say,
>> what do you think he said '-- We were all better off before CNN and
>> the spawn of CNN
>> Janet
>>
> I have been calling it the "news and entertainment hour" for a long
> time. The talking heads are a giant insult to any thinking person.

It always drives me nuts how they feel they need to "interpret" the news
or statements made by politicians to me because they don't trust how
I'll interpret it myself.
Remember the old adage that journalists just report the news, they
*aren't* the news? Whatever happened to those days???

In article >, Goomba > wrote:
>George wrote:
>
>>> I heard a wonderful term the other day that fits 'newscasting' in
>>> today's world perfectly -- "Entertainment News." Isn't that great?
>>> It explains the shouting, fist pounding, hysteria, second-by-second
>>> retelling of minor details. The 'he said, no he really meant to say,
>>> what do you think he said '-- We were all better off before CNN and
>>> the spawn of CNN
>>> Janet
>>>
>> I have been calling it the "news and entertainment hour" for a long
>> time. The talking heads are a giant insult to any thinking person.
>
>It always drives me nuts how they feel they need to "interpret" the news
>or statements made by politicians to me because they don't trust how
>I'll interpret it myself.
>Remember the old adage that journalists just report the news, they
>*aren't* the news? Whatever happened to those days???

Dunno about you lot, but over here in Oz most journalists seem to have
turned into "personalities" -- with about as much intellect!


Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:19:48 -0600, Pennyaline wrote:

> wrote:
>> We've put up info on our site (http://foodforu.ca/) about the human
>> influenza originating in Mexico which has been dubbed even by the
>> World health Organization at http://www.who.int/en/ as swine
>> influenza.
>>
>> Mis-information causes alot of problems, the WHO is the place to get
>> credible information on this outbreak of human influenza.
>
> Speaking of that:
>
> Our local FOX station has been running regular updates containing all
> manner of misinformation. I got fed up (OB food) with the station's
> endless harangue about 159 confirmed swine flu deaths in Mexico
> yesterday, and called them up during their evening broadcast. Whoever it
> was that answered the phone insisted that the confirmed flu death toll
> was 159, even when I referred him to the WHO website and read off the
> statistics to him that showed only 26 confirmed swine flu cases and a
> mere seven deaths. He laughed when I urged him to check WHO stats, and
> said to me... yes, he really said that he'd rather trust the Mexican
> government reports because, in so many words, they're there as it
> happens and they know what's going on in their country. He also
> maintained that WHO "gets it's information late" and related that the US
> government had elevated the pandemic alert to Level 5 but that WHO was
> still at Level 4, and told me that I must be mistaken when I told him
> that WHO had also raised the level to 5.
>
> Throughout the interlude, I was reminded countless times of about the
> futility of arguing with idiots.
>
> Before I hung up, I said to the man that I know he works for FOX and
> that this is a FOX broadcast, but that they should at least *try* to use
> vetted data and not promulgate misinformation and panic. I also
> suggested that they try reporting *both* Mexican government and WHO
> figures. The man laughed and told me to have a good evening, and I'm
> certain that will be the end of it forever.

sounds pretty restrained for fox. many of the right-wing blogs are already
proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>
> sounds pretty restrained for fox. many of the right-wing blogs are
> already
> proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
> to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
> his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.
>
> your pal,
> blake

I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice on
how to handle this situation.

On May 1, 10:21*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>
> > sounds pretty restrained for fox. *many of the right-wing blogs are
> > already
> > proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
> > to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
> > his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.
>
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice on
> how to handle this situation.

Biden is a liability, I think, for the president, except as
impeachment insurance. It's one thing when someone like me just
blurts out whatever the heck he's thinking, but it's different when
the guy is VP. He's a fundamentally decent man, but I hope that Obama
retires him as a running mate in 2012 in favor of a more careful,
articulate Democrat who also shares his values.
Obama inspires trust from the Left and Center. Biden does not. It's
not policy, but personality. Biden was well respected across the
spectrum as a Senator, and trusted as a voice in foreign policy
decision making in the Senate. He'd make a great Chair for the DNC.
Obama's next VP?

--Bryan, aka Bobo Bonobo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/3491381708/

In article >, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Food_Snob=AE?= > wrote:
>On May 1, 10:21=A0pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>
>> > sounds pretty restrained for fox. many of the right-wing blogs are already
>> > proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
>> > to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
>> > his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.
>>
>> I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice
>> on how to handle this situation.
>
>Biden is a liability, I think, for the president, except as
>impeachment insurance. It's one thing when someone like me just
>blurts out whatever the heck he's thinking, but it's different when
>the guy is VP. He's a fundamentally decent man, but I hope that Obama
>retires him as a running mate in 2012 in favor of a more careful,
>articulate Democrat who also shares his values.

Given the record you Yanks have of being somewhat careless with your
Presidents [we only lose Prime Ministers when they go swimming] it's
not beyond the bounds of possibility that JB could be your next Pres.

>Obama inspires trust from the Left and Center. Biden does not. It's
>not policy, but personality. Biden was well respected across the
>spectrum as a Senator, and trusted as a voice in foreign policy
>decision making in the Senate. He'd make a great Chair for the DNC.
>Obama's next VP?

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> sounds pretty restrained for fox. many of the right-wing blogs are
>> already
>> proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
>> to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
>> his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice on
> how to handle this situation.
>
>
Wow, me too! I am incapable of thinking for myself so I need smart
people to tell me what to do...

Taking his most urgent action to date since cases of swine flu
were first reported, President Barack Obama today ordered an emergency
quarantine of Vice President Joe Biden.

According to President Obama, the vice president will be kept in a
sealed box away from television cameras and microphones “until we are
certain that the danger is passed.”

“There is no clear scientific proof that swine flu can be spread
by television cameras or microphones,” Mr. Obama said. “But it’s
better to be safe than sorry.”

suzireb wrote:
> Taking his most urgent action to date since cases of swine flu
> were first reported, President Barack Obama today ordered an emergency
> quarantine of Vice President Joe Biden.
>
> According to President Obama, the vice president will be kept in a
> sealed box away from television cameras and microphones “until we are
> certain that the danger is passed.”

(laugh) I was saying I bet they're sorry they let him out of exile to
talk about this! I haven't seen him in a while, and I don't expect to
for another while.

nancy

On Fri, 1 May 2009 23:21:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>
>> sounds pretty restrained for fox. many of the right-wing blogs are
>> already
>> proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
>> to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
>> his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice on
> how to handle this situation.

joe biden sometimes says foolish things, i'll give you that. i haven't
heard ms. hilton on the subject, praise allah.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:34:34 -0400, George wrote:

> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>> sounds pretty restrained for fox. many of the right-wing blogs are
>>> already
>>> proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
>>> to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
>>> his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice on
>> how to handle this situation.
>>
> Wow, me too! I am incapable of thinking for myself so I need smart
> people to tell me what to do...

we've seen plenty of evidence of that here already.

blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>
>> I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice
>> on
>> how to handle this situation.
>
> joe biden sometimes says foolish things, i'll give you that. i haven't
> heard ms. hilton on the subject, praise allah.
>
> your pal,
> blake

She's not worried about contracting the flu because she does not eat pork

On May 2, 1:08*am, Food Snob® > wrote:
> On May 1, 10:21*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
> > "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>
> > > sounds pretty restrained for fox. *many of the right-wing blogs are
> > > already
> > > proclaiming that the whole thing is being hyped by/was engineered by obama
> > > to seize more power for his socialist state or to distract attention from
> > > his other actions to seize more power for his socialist state.
>
> > > your pal,
> > > blake
>
> > I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice on
> > how to handle this situation.
>
> Biden is a liability, I think, for the president, except as
> impeachment insurance. *It's one thing when someone like me just
> blurts out whatever the heck he's thinking, but it's different when
> the guy is VP. *He's a fundamentally decent man, but I hope that Obama
> retires him as a running mate in 2012 in favor of a more careful,
> articulate Democrat who also shares his values.
> Obama inspires trust from the Left and Center.

Vice presidents are now chosen for their unlikability, such that
anyone with assasination aspirations will think twice before offing
the Prez.

maxine, spouting nonsense

On Fri, 1 May 2009 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
> wrote:

>Biden is a liability, I think, for the president, except as
>impeachment insurance. It's one thing when someone like me just
>blurts out whatever the heck he's thinking, but it's different when
>the guy is VP.

I saw the news clip and he was very careful to say it was his opinion.
I'm not happy to fly on airplanes even when there is no problem with
an epidemic because I don't want to breathe recycled air - and I
certainly don't trust their filtration systems in this day and age of
cost cutting.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 2 May 2009 09:14:03 -0400, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:
>
>(laugh) I was saying I bet they're sorry they let him out of exile to
>talk about this! I haven't seen him in a while, and I don't expect to
>for another while.
>
Joe was put on the ticket with full knowledge that he shoots from the
lip. From what I've seen so far, he says what people are *really*
thinking.

However, swine flu is NOT the reason why I won't go to Mexico. The
ramped up drug war IS. Wake up people!

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 1 May 2009 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
> > wrote:
>
>> Biden is a liability, I think, for the president, except as
>> impeachment insurance. It's one thing when someone like me just
>> blurts out whatever the heck he's thinking, but it's different when
>> the guy is VP.
>
> I saw the news clip and he was very careful to say it was his opinion.
> I'm not happy to fly on airplanes even when there is no problem with
> an epidemic because I don't want to breathe recycled air - and I
> certainly don't trust their filtration systems in this day and age of
> cost cutting.
>
How about a thought experiment? Lets say you are diagnosed with
something and your doc tells you that the treatment is a course of
"zelarim" for 30 days. It is commonly used but your doc finishes with
"but I wouldn't use that drug on my family". The doc was careful to
point out it was his opinion so would that influence you?

Disclaimer: the example was not meant to infer that Biden has any
knowledge or authority in the subject area (he doesn't) but the American
idol/twitter crowd may not know that.

"George" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 May 2009 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Food Snob®
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Biden is a liability, I think, for the president, except as
>>> impeachment insurance. It's one thing when someone like me just
>>> blurts out whatever the heck he's thinking, but it's different when
>>> the guy is VP.
>>
>> I saw the news clip and he was very careful to say it was his opinion.
>> I'm not happy to fly on airplanes even when there is no problem with
>> an epidemic because I don't want to breathe recycled air - and I
>> certainly don't trust their filtration systems in this day and age of
>> cost cutting.
>>
> How about a thought experiment? Lets say you are diagnosed with something
> and your doc tells you that the treatment is a course of "zelarim" for 30
> days. It is commonly used but your doc finishes with "but I wouldn't use
> that drug on my family". The doc was careful to point out it was his
> opinion so would that influence you?
>
> Disclaimer: the example was not meant to infer that Biden has any
> knowledge or authority in the subject area (he doesn't) but the American
> idol/twitter crowd may not know that.

Joe Biden rocks. Go Joe.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
>
> Joe Biden rocks. Go Joe.
>

When Biden was used as the spokesperson for the Democratic Party, I thought
he was little more than a windbag that droned on for no apparent reason.
When I had a few chances to hear him speak off the cuff, I gained new
respect for him. He has some good ideas on foreign policy and how to handle
Iraq too.

On Sat, 2 May 2009 13:14:31 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> I'm relying on learned people like Paris Hilton and Joe Biden for advice
>>> on
>>> how to handle this situation.
>>
>> joe biden sometimes says foolish things, i'll give you that. i haven't
>> heard ms. hilton on the subject, praise allah.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> She's not worried about contracting the flu because she does not eat pork

i'll bet she's had her share of pork swords, though.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 2 May 2009 23:34:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>>
>> Joe Biden rocks. Go Joe.
>>
>
> When Biden was used as the spokesperson for the Democratic Party, I thought
> he was little more than a windbag that droned on for no apparent reason.
> When I had a few chances to hear him speak off the cuff, I gained new
> respect for him. He has some good ideas on foreign policy and how to handle
> Iraq too.

my reservations about biden mostly deal with his role in the bankruptcy act
and other goodies thrown to the credit card companies. he was senator from
delaware.

he seems to be a pretty smart guy, though.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

> On Sat, 2 May 2009 23:34:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > "cybercat" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> Joe Biden rocks. Go Joe.
> >>
> >
> > When Biden was used as the spokesperson for the Democratic Party, I
thought
> > he was little more than a windbag that droned on for no apparent reason.
> > When I had a few chances to hear him speak off the cuff, I gained new
> > respect for him. He has some good ideas on foreign policy and how to
handle
> > Iraq too.
>
> my reservations about biden mostly deal with his role in the bankruptcy
act
> and other goodies thrown to the credit card companies. he was senator
from
> delaware.
>
> he seems to be a pretty smart guy, though.


"Cheesy" is the word that comes to mind when his glad-handing mug pops up on
the televisor screen...

Too bad Fred Allen isn't still around, he could base a character on Biden,
he'd be a snap to parody...


--
Best
Greg

"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money."~~~~Margaret Thatcher