Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
one cheaper knock-off brand.

This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.

My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
weird shit on the shelves.

Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
cooking?

-sw

On Mar 29, 8:32*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? *2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. *One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. *It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?

Hawaiians gaga over Spam, and now Asians into Spam. What's this world
coming to?
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On Mar 29, 8:32*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? *2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. *One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. *It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>
Hawaiians gaga over Spam, and now Asians into Cheez Whiz. What's this
world
coming to?

> -sw

--Bryan

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>


dts

Sqwertz wrote:
> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>
> -sw

Cheese is not really used much in Asian cooking. They sometimes use in
in cheesecake which is typically a very light cake. The Japanese will
most typically use cheese in curry and rice which is a very popular dish
in Japan. My guess is that they'll use the Whiz on curry and rice dishes.

Probably the most popular white folk food used by the Japanese is mayo.
They dig that stuff!

Sqwertz > wrote:

> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?

Upon further research:

"It is marketed in the United States, Canada, Venezuela, and the
Philippines."

Apparently Filipinos are into the spreadable cheesy goodness. But I
still don't think that explains it. This store, and Austin, doesn't
have a noticeable Filipino presence. I rarely see them around town
except maybe working @ the airport (they seem to gravitate towards
the baggage security jobs, mostly).

-sw

On Mar 30, 6:05*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Sqwertz > wrote:
> > Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> > cooking?
>
> Upon further research:
>
> "It is marketed in the United States, Canada, Venezuela, and the
> Philippines."
>
> Apparently Filipinos are into the spreadable cheesy goodness. *But I
> still don't think that explains it. *This store, and Austin, doesn't
> have a noticeable Filipino presence. *I rarely see them around town
> except maybe working @ the airport (they seem to gravitate towards
> the baggage security jobs, mostly).
>
> -sw

I haven't noticed it in our Asian store here, but not that you
mentioned it I will be looking. There sure is a lot of other stuff in
there.
I believe the man in our Asian store does not read English. I had
asked about Rooster Sauce and he had no idea, but I found it on the
shelves, and my DH found the Japanese Mayo also.
I also saw, now that I know what I'm looking for, the Rooster Sauce
in, gasp, Walmart!! So I'm looking at their Ethnic food more
carefully. Forgot the price at Asian store so I couldn't compare.
Nan in DE

"Nan" wrote
Sqwertz wrote:

>> Apparently Filipinos are into the spreadable cheesy goodness. But I
>> still don't think that explains it. This store, and Austin, doesn't

> I haven't noticed it in our Asian store here, but not that you
> mentioned it I will be looking. There sure is a lot of other stuff in
> there.

Havent seen it at mine either but it's possible. It's not the sort of thing
I go there for.

> I believe the man in our Asian store does not read English. I had
> asked about Rooster Sauce and he had no idea, but I found it on the
> shelves, and my DH found the Japanese Mayo also.

;-) The guy at the fish counter speaks no english other than a few common
names for some of the fish types. Fortunately he knows most of the more
common asian names for the fish types too so we do well enough. I dont have
to struggle to remember what 'Bangus' is in english.

> I also saw, now that I know what I'm looking for, the Rooster Sauce
> in, gasp, Walmart!! So I'm looking at their Ethnic food more
> carefully. Forgot the price at Asian store so I couldn't compare.

Probably cheaper at the Asian store and the money stays with local shop
keepers too. They are generally owned and operated by 1st or second
generation Americans who have their citizenship after legally moving here.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:32:02 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>
> -sw

given some of the weird-ass asian snack foods, i would attribute it to
that, even though the product placement you cite kinda argues against it.

your pal,
blake

Sqwertz wrote:
> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>
> -sw

I have never seen that in any of the Asian markets I patronize. I wonder
if it is something localized?

George wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
>> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
>> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>>
>> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
>> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
>> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
>> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
>> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>>
>> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
>> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
>> weird shit on the shelves.
>>
>> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
>> cooking?
>>
>> -sw
>
> I have never seen that in any of the Asian markets I patronize. I wonder
> if it is something localized?

The Asian grocery I visit (in Boston near the Boston University campus)
has a large "American foods" section - about an aisle's worth maybe. I
never noticed Cheez Whiz but I also never really browse that aisle since
I get most of my more mainstream ingredients at the regular grocery store.

The store is currently in the process of a remodel and everything is now
organized by region. Chinese has one aisle, Thai another, Japanese, and
so on. I like it much better this way.

The store is still a bit of a disaster. They cut out a ton of stuff and
it looks like they are adding a food court. There is already a very
large food court adjacent to the store.

Tracy

blake murphy wrote:

> given some of the weird-ass asian snack foods, i would attribute it to
> that, even though the product placement you cite kinda argues against it.

Come to think of it, it's in the refrigerated section. It doesn't even
need refrigeration!


-sw

Mark Thorson wrote:
> "l, not -l" wrote:
>> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an artifact
>> of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after WWII.
>
> Nope, Cheez Whiz wasn't introduced until 1953.

Should we allow that one tiny detail ruin a beautiful story of Cheese
Whiz in the Pacific? :-)

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheez_Whiz

"l, not -l" wrote:
>
> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an artifact
> of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after WWII.

Nope, Cheez Whiz wasn't introduced until 1953.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheez_Whiz

On Mar 29, 6:32*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? *2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. *One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. *It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>
> -sw

Seems strange to have Cheez Whiz in an Asian market. Most Asians are
lactose intolerant.

Eddy

l, not -l wrote:

> On 29-Mar-2009, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> > Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> > Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> > one cheaper knock-off brand.
> >
> > This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> > space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> > picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> > that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> > diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
> >
> > My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> > put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> > weird shit on the shelves.
> >
> > Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> > cooking?
>
> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an
artifact
> of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after WWII.
>

My Pilipino - owned corner store here in Chicawgo has plenty of Spam - like
stuff on offer, it's all imported from the Philippines...

IME Pilipinos are an ethnic group that tries to assimilate as fast as they
can into the US mainstream, they have a desire to be "real Americans".
Maybe this is reflected in the Cheez Whiz thang, I see plenty of Philippine
analogues to US junk food on the shelves of some of their stores...


--
Best
Greg

> wrote:

>Seems strange to have Cheez Whiz in an Asian market. Most Asians are
>lactose intolerant.

There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?

S.

l, not -l wrote:>
> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an artifact
> of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after WWII.

I see Spam-like substances in the largest Asian store I go to. I
don't recall if there is Spam itself though. I also don't
remember ever seeing Cheez Whiz at any of the Asian stores I frequent.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. said...

> l, not -l wrote:>
>> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an
>> artifact of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after
>> WWII.
>
> I see Spam-like substances in the largest Asian store I go to. I
> don't recall if there is Spam itself though. I also don't
> remember ever seeing Cheez Whiz at any of the Asian stores I frequent.


SPAM's popularity relates more to its introduction to the Polynesian culture
of Hawaii. Not Asian culture in the Far East.

Aloha,

Andy
Volcano Starter
\ooo/

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
>> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
>> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>>
>> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
>> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
>> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
>> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
>> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>>
>> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
>> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
>> weird shit on the shelves.
>>
>> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
>> cooking?
>>
>> -sw
>
> Cheese is not really used much in Asian cooking. They sometimes use in in
> cheesecake which is typically a very light cake. The Japanese will most
> typically use cheese in curry and rice which is a very popular dish in
> Japan. My guess is that they'll use the Whiz on curry and rice dishes.
>

Incorrect. Using cheese in Rice Curry is an oddity far from typical and you
won't see it too often. And yes, Rice Curry, having been brought to Japan by
the British in the 1800s
is found literally everywhere in Japan.

Cheese Whiz is mostly unknown in Japan. I suspect that Kraft attempted to
market it
in Japan a couple decades ago but it failed and you won't see it in any
Japanese
supermarket today.

Cheese (not the whiz) is very common in Japan, and has been domestically
produced
along with other dairy products since about 1900. However, as one would
imagine,
most of the applications are in Youshoku (western dishes) which are very
popular.
There are some unusual applications such as Cheese insterted into the
middle of Tonkatsu,
or used in Okonomiyaki which have become generally accepted.

> Probably the most popular white folk food used by the Japanese is mayo.
> They dig that stuff!

Again introduced into Japan by the British, the major domestic brand Kewpie
has
been around since 1925. Personally I prefer Hellman's as I find it slightly
less salty
than Kewpie, but it's a matter of taste.

Sincerely
Musashi

Andy wrote:
> Jean B. said...
>
>> l, not -l wrote:>
>>> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an
>>> artifact of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after
>>> WWII.
>> I see Spam-like substances in the largest Asian store I go to. I
>> don't recall if there is Spam itself though. I also don't
>> remember ever seeing Cheez Whiz at any of the Asian stores I frequent.
>
>
> SPAM's popularity relates more to its introduction to the Polynesian culture
> of Hawaii. Not Asian culture in the Far East.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Andy
> Volcano Starter
> \ooo/
>
Well, where the stores are broken down by region, the "Spam" isn't
in a Hawaiian/Pacific region. I think some of it emanates from SE
Asia.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. said...

> Andy wrote:
>> Jean B. said...
>>
>>> l, not -l wrote:>
>>>> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an
>>>> artifact of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after
>>>> WWII.
>>> I see Spam-like substances in the largest Asian store I go to. I
>>> don't recall if there is Spam itself though. I also don't
>>> remember ever seeing Cheez Whiz at any of the Asian stores I frequent.
>>
>>
>> SPAM's popularity relates more to its introduction to the Polynesian
>> culture of Hawaii. Not Asian culture in the Far East.
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Andy
>> Volcano Starter
>> \ooo/
>>
> Well, where the stores are broken down by region, the "Spam" isn't
> in a Hawaiian/Pacific region. I think some of it emanates from SE
> Asia.


SPAM was, iirc, originally a supply to the armed forces at Pearl Harbor,
Oahu. It spread from there throughout the HI island population due to it's
huge "import" availability.

Best,

Andy

Steve Pope wrote:
> > wrote:
>
>> Seems strange to have Cheez Whiz in an Asian market. Most Asians are
>> lactose intolerant.
>
> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?

Dairy by-products: Whey.

-sw

> wrote in message
...
On Mar 29, 6:32 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> weird shit on the shelves.
>
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>
> -sw

Seems strange to have Cheez Whiz in an Asian market. Most Asians are
lactose intolerant.

Eddy

Some are some aren't. Without doubt the rate of lactose intolerance is
higher than
in other pats of the world. But if "Most" were intolerant there would be no
market for any dairy
products in Asian countries and they wouldn't be on supermarket shelves.
Interstingly, Lactose Intolerance is actually default condition for Humans,
the tolerance
having developed originally in Central Asia and having spread predominantly
westward since.

Musashi

On Mar 31, 5:49*am, "Musashi" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Mar 29, 6:32 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> > Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> > one cheaper knock-off brand.
>
> > This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> > space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> > picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> > that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> > diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>
> > My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> > put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> > weird shit on the shelves.
>
> > Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> > cooking?
>
> > -sw
>
> Seems strange to have Cheez Whiz in an Asian market. *Most Asians are
> lactose intolerant.
>
> Eddy
>
> Some are some aren't. Without doubt the rate of lactose intolerance is
> higher than
> in other pats of the world. But if "Most" were intolerant there would be no
> market for any dairy
> products in Asian countries and they wouldn't be on supermarket shelves.
> Interstingly, Lactose Intolerance is actually default condition for Humans,
> the tolerance
> having developed originally in Central Asia and having spread predominantly
> westward since.
>
> Musashi- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted

From the American Gastroenterologial Association:

Close to 50 million American adults are lactose intolerant. Certain
ethnic and racial populations are more widely affected than others. As
many as 75 percent of all African-American, Jewish, Native American,
and Mexican adults, and 90 percent of Asian adults are lactose
intolerant. The condition is least common among people of northern
European descent.

I would think the market for dairy products in Asia may be to younger
people who have not developed lactose intolerance and to non Asians
living in Asia. I'm Asian and did not develop lactose intolerance
until about the age of 20. Soy milk is okay, but I do miss a big
glass of cold milk and a bunch of Oeros!

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:12:39 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> given some of the weird-ass asian snack foods, i would attribute it to
>> that, even though the product placement you cite kinda argues against it.
>
> Come to think of it, it's in the refrigerated section. It doesn't even
> need refrigeration!
>
> -sw

those inscrutable orientals.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:49:46 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> l, not -l wrote:
>
>> On 29-Mar-2009, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
>>> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
>>> one cheaper knock-off brand.
>>>
>>> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
>>> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
>>> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
>>> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
>>> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
>>>
>>> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
>>> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
>>> weird shit on the shelves.
>>>
>>> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
>>> cooking?
>>
>> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an
> artifact
>> of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after WWII.
>>
>
> My Pilipino - owned corner store here in Chicawgo has plenty of Spam - like
> stuff on offer, it's all imported from the Philippines...
>
> IME Pilipinos are an ethnic group that tries to assimilate as fast as they
> can into the US mainstream, they have a desire to be "real Americans".
> Maybe this is reflected in the Cheez Whiz thang, I see plenty of Philippine
> analogues to US junk food on the shelves of some of their stores...

they're not 'real americans' unless they spray the cheese directly into
their mouths.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:38:28 -0400, Jean B. wrote:

> Andy wrote:
>> Jean B. said...
>>
>>> l, not -l wrote:>
>>>> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an
>>>> artifact of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after
>>>> WWII.
>>> I see Spam-like substances in the largest Asian store I go to. I
>>> don't recall if there is Spam itself though. I also don't
>>> remember ever seeing Cheez Whiz at any of the Asian stores I frequent.
>>
>> SPAM's popularity relates more to its introduction to the Polynesian culture
>> of Hawaii. Not Asian culture in the Far East.
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Andy
>> Volcano Starter
>> \ooo/
>>
> Well, where the stores are broken down by region, the "Spam" isn't
> in a Hawaiian/Pacific region. I think some of it emanates from SE
> Asia.

it's all part of sheldon's fiendish plan to conquer the earth. the problem
is, the cats don't seem to be interested, since they have it pretty cushy
already.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:49:46 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > l, not -l wrote:
> >
> >> On 29-Mar-2009, Sqwertz > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Why is it that two of the biggest Asian grocers in town carry Cheez
> >>> Whiz? 2 types (regular and light), 2 sizes (large and larger), and
> >>> one cheaper knock-off brand.
> >>>
> >>> This has always baffled me. One store has a good 8 sqft of shelf
> >>> space devoted to Cheez Whiz, and the display always looks recently
> >>> picked over - as if several dozen people have already bought some
> >>> that day. It sits there right in between packages of pickled
> >>> diakon, miso paste, fried tofu, kimchi, and fake meat products.
> >>>
> >>> My only explanation that it's the only White food in the store. They
> >>> put it there just for the gringos who are baffled by all the other
> >>> weird shit on the shelves.
> >>>
> >>> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> >>> cooking?
> >>
> >> Any SPAM in those stores? If so, perhaps the Cheez Whiz is also an
> > artifact
> >> of US occupation of many Pacific Islands during and after WWII.
> >>
> >
> > My Pilipino - owned corner store here in Chicawgo has plenty of Spam -
like
> > stuff on offer, it's all imported from the Philippines...
> >
> > IME Pilipinos are an ethnic group that tries to assimilate as fast as
they
> > can into the US mainstream, they have a desire to be "real Americans".
> > Maybe this is reflected in the Cheez Whiz thang, I see plenty of
Philippine
> > analogues to US junk food on the shelves of some of their stores...
>
> they're not 'real americans' unless they spray the cheese directly into
> their mouths.


Boy, now I am *really* konfused...!!!


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Sqwertz wrote:
> Steve Pope wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Seems strange to have Cheez Whiz in an Asian market. Most Asians are
>>> lactose intolerant.
>>
>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>
> Dairy by-products: Whey.

Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:

Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.

Serene

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In article >,
Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> "But here's a handy hint: if your fabulous theory for ending war and
> all other human conflict will not survive an online argument with
> humourless feminists who are not afraid to throw rape around as an
> example, your theory needs work." -- Aqua, alt.polyamory

Cute quote! I've never attended that list. :-)
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Serene Vannoy wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Steve Pope wrote:
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems strange to have Cheez Whiz in an Asian market. Most Asians are
>>>> lactose intolerant.
>>>
>>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>>
>> Dairy by-products: Whey.
>
> Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:
>
> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk ...

Ahh, poo. You're no fun at all.

-sw

On Mar 29, 9:32*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in Asian
> cooking?
>

Who says you have to use it in cooking to have it appear in a grocery
store? Perhaps the older folks are buying for their kids, and the
younger folks buy it for themselves. It's sold in Hong Kong (where I'm
from), the Chinese name is "Jee see Wei Wei" (means something like top
cheese).

As for lactose intolerant, maybe, but again using Hong Kong as an
example, western food - even those with cheeses - is widely available
and popular. Pizza Hut has a big presence there for years.

Tippi wrote on Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:03:17 -0700 (PDT):

> On Mar 29, 9:32 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> Is there really any use or explanation for Cheez Whiz in
>> Asian cooking?
>>
> Who says you have to use it in cooking to have it appear in a
> grocery store? Perhaps the older folks are buying for their
> kids, and the younger folks buy it for themselves. It's sold
> in Hong Kong (where I'm from), the Chinese name is "Jee see
> Wei Wei" (means something like top cheese).

Given the popularity of pizza in Hong Kong, I wonder if the percentage
of lactose intolerance there is dreamed up for the occasion (like, it is
suspected a lot of other statistics :-) Of course, it may be the good
medical method, "I'm lactose intolerant and I know I'm normal so it
follows.......".

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Tippi wrote:

> Who says you have to use it in cooking to have it appear in a grocery
> store? Perhaps the older folks are buying for their kids, and the
> younger folks buy it for themselves.

Could be. But it is the only American food sold in this store. They do
not sell peanut butter, white bread, or evn crackers (except the Japanese
kind). And it's a huge grocery store (about the size of a 99 Ranch 99).

-sw

Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Steve Pope wrote:
>
>>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>>
>> Dairy by-products: Whey.
>
> Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:
>
> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.

That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
not say "modified milk ingredients").

Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:

"Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"

There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
cheese. At least not in my opinion.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
> Serene Vannoy > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> Steve Pope wrote:
>>>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>>> Dairy by-products: Whey.
>> Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:
>>
>> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
>> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
>> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.
>
> That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
> not say "modified milk ingredients").
>
> Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:
>
> "Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
> Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
> Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
> Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
> Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"
>
> There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
> ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
> cheese. At least not in my opinion.

The question was not "There's cheese in Cheez Whiz?" but "There are
dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz[sic]?" Milk and part-skim milk are
dairy ingredients, wouldn't you agree?

Serene

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all other human conflict will not survive an online argument with
humourless feminists who are not afraid to throw rape around as an
example, your theory needs work." -- Aqua, alt.polyamory

Serene Vannoy > wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy > wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> Steve Pope wrote:
>>>>> There are dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz?
>>>> Dairy by-products: Whey.
>>> Looks like it contains actual cheese to me:
>>>
>>> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
>>> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
>>> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.
>>
>> That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
>> not say "modified milk ingredients").
>>
>> Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:
>>
>> "Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
>> Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
>> Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
>> Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
>> Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"
>>
>> There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
>> ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
>> cheese. At least not in my opinion.
>
> The question was not "There's cheese in Cheez Whiz?" but "There are
> dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz[sic]?" Milk and part-skim milk are
> dairy ingredients, wouldn't you agree?

Your statement was: "Looks like it contains actual cheese to me".
And I already stated that it has whey in it - a definite dairy
product.

-sw

Sqwertz > wrote:

>Serene Vannoy > wrote:

>> Cheese ( cheddar, mozzarella, and swiss), water, modified milk
>> ingredients, sodium phosphates, salt and spice, mustard, color, sodium
>> alginate, sorbic acid, and sodium.

>That appears to be the Canadian Cheez Whiz (U.S. food labels would
>not say "modified milk ingredients").

>Cheez Whiz as known to the United States:

>"Milk And Part-Skim Milk, Water, Whey, Milkfat, Sodium Phosphate,
>Contains Less Than 2% Of Dried Corn Syrup, Salt, Worcestershire
>Sauce (Vinegar, Water, Molasses, Corn Syrup, Salt, Sugar, Caramel
>Color, Dried Garlic, Spice, Anchovies, Tamarind, Natural
>Preservative, Annatto (Color), Oleoresin Paprika, Enzymes"

>There is no actual cheese in those ingredients. There are
>ingredients in there to make cheese, but collectively, it is not
>cheese.

So as usual, you have to go outside the U.S. to find the real stuff.

Tangentially, a while back I stocked up on Kraft reduced fat
Cheddar-Mozzarella-Swiss cheese, which I thought was an odd
bu edible combination. (Very cheap at Grocery Outlet.) It can't
be a coincidence that the same combination appears in Canadian
Cheez-Whiz.

Steve

Serene Vannoy > wrote:

>The question was not "There's cheese in Cheez Whiz?" but "There are
>dairy ingredients in Cheez-Whiz[sic]?" Milk and part-skim milk are
>dairy ingredients, wouldn't you agree?

My interpretation of Steve's reply was that he answered in
the affirmative.

Steve