jmcquown wrote:
> This is one is in my mother's handwriting. I definitely don't remember
> her ever adding bread crumbs to sloppy joes. I suspect this one came
> from the late 1950's when my father was in Korea and she was trying to
> stretch the budget. Note, she never mentions ground beef in the
> ingredients list, only in the instructions.
>
> Sloppy Joes
>
> 2 c. bread as for stuffing
> 2 large onions
> garlic (optional)
> 4 Tbs. Worcestershire sauce
> 2 cups catsup
> 1/2 c. sugar
> 4 Tbs. vinegar
> tsp. salt & pepper to taste
>
> Saute onions and ground beef to separate. Add the bread crumbs and
> other ingredients. Serve on unbuttered heated buns.
>
> Okey doke, Mom
>
> Jill

That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like
that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.

These recipes are interesting reading, Jill. Thanks for typing
them up for us.

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Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> This is one is in my mother's handwriting. I definitely don't remember
>> her ever adding bread crumbs to sloppy joes. I suspect this one came
>> from the late 1950's when my father was in Korea and she was trying to
>> stretch the budget. Note, she never mentions ground beef in the
>> ingredients list, only in the instructions.
>>
>> Sloppy Joes
>>
>> 2 c. bread as for stuffing
>> 2 large onions
>> garlic (optional)
>> 4 Tbs. Worcestershire sauce
>> 2 cups catsup
>> 1/2 c. sugar
>> 4 Tbs. vinegar
>> tsp. salt & pepper to taste
>>
>> Saute onions and ground beef to separate. Add the bread crumbs and other
>> ingredients. Serve on unbuttered heated buns.
>>
>> Okey doke, Mom
>>
>> Jill
>
> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like that
> amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>
I've never added sugar to sloppy joes. Never added bread crumbs, either.
And I wouldn't have considered garlic "optional" LOL

> These recipes are interesting reading, Jill. Thanks for typing them up
> for us.
>
> --
> Jean B.

You're welcome. It's fun (and sometimes funny) stuff

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> This is one is in my mother's handwriting. I definitely don't remember
>>> her ever adding bread crumbs to sloppy joes. I suspect this one came
>>> from the late 1950's when my father was in Korea and she was trying to
>>> stretch the budget. Note, she never mentions ground beef in the
>>> ingredients list, only in the instructions.
>>>
>>> Sloppy Joes
>>>
>>> 2 c. bread as for stuffing
>>> 2 large onions
>>> garlic (optional)
>>> 4 Tbs. Worcestershire sauce
>>> 2 cups catsup
>>> 1/2 c. sugar
>>> 4 Tbs. vinegar
>>> tsp. salt & pepper to taste
>>>
>>> Saute onions and ground beef to separate. Add the bread crumbs and
>>> other ingredients. Serve on unbuttered heated buns.
>>>
>>> Okey doke, Mom
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like that
>> amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>>
> I've never added sugar to sloppy joes. Never added bread crumbs, either.
> And I wouldn't have considered garlic "optional" LOL
>
>> These recipes are interesting reading, Jill. Thanks for typing them up
>> for us.
>>
>> --
>> Jean B.
>
> You're welcome. It's fun (and sometimes funny) stuff
>
> Jill
That reminds me of the "Restricted Veal Loaf" from the Alice B Toklas
cookbook. She wrote it when she and Gertrude Stein were living in rural
France during WWII. It has 1/2 lb ground veal and 7 slices of bread! I made
it once and liked it, though it's not at all like the usual meatloaf. Maybe
there was a "Restricted Sloppy Joe" during the war as well.

Ed

On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:

> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like
> that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.

Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like
>> that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>
> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>
> nb


I've only ever tried that Manwich sauce once... I was desperate Never
again! I like my sloppy joes on the spicy side. No sugar.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>>
>>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like
>>> that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>>
>> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>>
>> nb
>
>
> I've only ever tried that Manwich sauce once... I was desperate
> Never again! I like my sloppy joes on the spicy side. No sugar.
>
> Jill

I like mine on the tart side--not sweet. And I despise sloppy
joes that contain cumin--or chili powder, which contains cumin.

--
Jean B.

On Feb 25, 10:11*am, notbob > wrote:
> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>
> > That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. *I wouldn't like
> > that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>
> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>
> nb
===========
For some inexplicable reason lots of folks in North Dakota (especially
Lutherans) insist on a can of Campbells Chicken Gumbo Soup! (Plus
catsup etc.)
Anywhere else?
Lynn in Fargo

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:24:00 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig
> wrote:

>For some inexplicable reason lots of folks in North Dakota (especially
>Lutherans) insist on a can of Campbells Chicken Gumbo Soup! (Plus
>catsup etc.)
>Anywhere else?

I have had sloppy joes made that way, and they weren't bad. Seemed
really weird to me, though, and I've never considered making mine that
way.

Carol

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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:24:00 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig
> > wrote:
>
> >For some inexplicable reason lots of folks in North Dakota (especially
> >Lutherans) insist on a can of Campbells Chicken Gumbo Soup! (Plus
> >catsup etc.)
> >Anywhere else?
>
> I have had sloppy joes made that way, and they weren't bad. Seemed
> really weird to me, though, and I've never considered making mine that
> way.


That's nothing, in Wisconsin Sloppy Joes are called "barbeque"...

;-)


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Greg

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:24:00 -0800 (PST), Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig
> wrote:

>On Feb 25, 10:11*am, notbob > wrote:
>> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>>
>> > That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. *I wouldn't like
>> > that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>>
>> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>>
>> nb
>===========
>For some inexplicable reason lots of folks in North Dakota (especially
>Lutherans) insist on a can of Campbells Chicken Gumbo Soup! (Plus
>catsup etc.)
>Anywhere else?
>

Yep, Indiana. That's how Gramma and Mom made them. I remembered they
tasted pretty good...I wonder how I'd like them now?

Lisa Ann

In article
>,
Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig > wrote:

> For some inexplicable reason lots of folks in North Dakota (especially
> Lutherans) insist on a can of Campbells Chicken Gumbo Soup! (Plus
> catsup etc.)
> Anywhere else?
> Lynn in Fargo

Ah, but it is explicable. :-)
The chicken gumbo soup, Lynn, is an ingredient in Campbell's "souper
burgers", published in a book of recipes using Campbell's condensed
soups -- probably 45 years ago. (I like to make my sloppy joe's with
the chicken gumbo and the ketchup and mustard that the recipe included,
too.) :-)
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Glorified Rice 2-24-2009

"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Lynn from Fargo Ografmorffig > wrote:
>
>> For some inexplicable reason lots of folks in North Dakota (especially
>> Lutherans) insist on a can of Campbells Chicken Gumbo Soup! (Plus
>> catsup etc.)
>> Anywhere else?
>> Lynn in Fargo
>
> Ah, but it is explicable. :-)
> The chicken gumbo soup, Lynn, is an ingredient in Campbell's "souper
> burgers", published in a book of recipes using Campbell's condensed
> soups -- probably 45 years ago. (I like to make my sloppy joe's with
> the chicken gumbo and the ketchup and mustard that the recipe included,
> too.) :-)
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://web.me.com/barbschaller
> Glorified Rice 2-24-2009

It's also the sloppy joe recipe in the early 70s Betty Crocker cook book.

Ms P

Regarding the Campbell Souper Recipe for sloppy joes with Chicken
Gumbo....
....we used to have them when I was in high school, and that was almost
55 years ago. They were good on toasted buns; and I remember thinking
it was a strange combination at that time, and I was certainly no cook.

Libby

In article >,
(Fred/Libby Barclay) wrote:

> Regarding the Campbell Souper Recipe for sloppy joes with Chicken
> Gumbo....
> ...we used to have them when I was in high school, and that was almost
> 55 years ago. They were good on toasted buns; and I remember thinking
> it was a strange combination at that time, and I was certainly no cook.
>
> Libby

It IS an odd thing, but I don't find it offensive at all. Maybe it's
the mustard. I see that the original recipe doesn't have ketchup in it,
just mustard, but I'm pretty sure I put some ketchup in it. It's
another one of those recipes that I don't follow to the letter. :-/
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Glorified Rice 2-24-2009

This is from memory, as far as I know nobody in the family ever wrote it down.

2 lb ground beef
2 large onions chopped fine
4 to 6 ounces ketchup
2 to 4 ounces mustard

Brown onions and ground beef together
Do NOT drain
Add ketchup and mustard
Simmer untill it looks right
Add ketchup and/or mustard to adjust if needed

This recipe ( such as it is ) is over 60 years old, heritage I guess.

notbob wrote:
> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>
>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like
>> that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>
> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>
> nb

I have used that in the distant past and don't recall much
sweetness. I wonder whether it has evolved in that direction over
the years?

--
Jean B.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:23:41 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>>
>>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like
>>> that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>>
>> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>>
>> nb
>
>I have used that in the distant past and don't recall much
>sweetness. I wonder whether it has evolved in that direction over
>the years?

I wonder if there's a difference between the packet and the can? I've
only used the package and like you, I don't remember sweetness being
an issue - but after trying the Jiffy Mix cornbread for the first time
in few years, I did taste more sweetness in that than I remembered.


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sf wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:23:41 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>>>
>>>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like
>>>> that amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>>> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>>>
>>> nb
>> I have used that in the distant past and don't recall much
>> sweetness. I wonder whether it has evolved in that direction over
>> the years?
>
> I wonder if there's a difference between the packet and the can? I've
> only used the package and like you, I don't remember sweetness being
> an issue - but after trying the Jiffy Mix cornbread for the first time
> in few years, I did taste more sweetness in that than I remembered.
>
>
I've never used or examined the packets, although I have probably
seen them in passing. I think I can put together a sloppy joe
that is to my liking without resorting to any recipe, mix, or
premade sauce. Maybe that's the key--to one's liking. It seems
like the "norms" vary widely.

--
Jean B.

Jean B. wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>>
>>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like that
>>> amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>>
>> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>>
>> nb
>
> I have used that in the distant past and don't recall much sweetness. I
> wonder whether it has evolved in that direction over the years?
>

Absolutely. I mean, I don't mind sloppy joes on the sweeter end, but
it's definitely gotten sweeter, as has most canned soup-like stuff, over
the years.

Serene

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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:32:22 -0700, Serene Vannoy
> wrote:

>Jean B. wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2009-02-25, Jean B. > wrote:
>>>
>>>> That bread would stretch the beef out for sure. I wouldn't like that
>>>> amount of sweetener, but one can always tinker to taste.
>>>
>>> Classic Hunt's sloppy joe sauce (Manwich) is pretty sweet.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> I have used that in the distant past and don't recall much sweetness. I
>> wonder whether it has evolved in that direction over the years?
>>
>
>Absolutely. I mean, I don't mind sloppy joes on the sweeter end, but
>it's definitely gotten sweeter, as has most canned soup-like stuff, over
>the years.
>
Here's my unsupported thesis about your statement. They are ramping
up the sweetness to mask the lack of salt. I dunno. I don't use
canned sloppy joes or canned soup for that matter. Not because I'm
holier than thou, just because I don't have to.



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