Ozark Baby wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:36:07 -0400, "Cheryl"
> > wrote:
>
>>For those who use Comcast with Giganews as the news provider, Comcast is
>>dropping Usenet access. I didn't believe it either, but the forums on
>>comcast.net confirm it. Now they aren't worth the high price we pay for
>>Internet broadband. I never got any warning email from them, and had to
>>read about it in another group.
>>
>>This isn't a bash of Comcast, just an FYI for those of you who post here via
>>you Comcast membership.
>
> Look into getting and using a seperate news server. That is what I did
> years ago when my ISP took away the Usenet access. EasyNews is a
> really good one and has rollover bytes.

There's a meter on it? My goodness.

--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Need a new news feed? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html

Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Ozark Baby wrote:

> > Look into getting and using a seperate news server. That is what I
> > did years ago when my ISP took away the Usenet access. EasyNews is a
> > really good one and has rollover bytes.
>
> There's a meter on it? My goodness.

Most full news service do that. NIN can afford a flat rate because it's
text only. You could read news 24/7 and not make much of dent in
bandwidth. A service with binary access is a lot different. An
hour-long TV show pulled from a multimeda group would be around 300-400
meg.

It's one reason why the ISPs didn't put up much of a fight, a fight
they probably could have won. It's an excuse to get rid of services
that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of customers.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

> It's an excuse to get rid of services
>that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom


:P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
binaries, no matter how little I use them.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

sf wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
> > It's an excuse to get rid of services
> > that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>
>
> :P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
> binaries, no matter how little I use them.

See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It's an excuse to get rid of services
>> > that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>>
>>
>> :P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
>> binaries, no matter how little I use them.
>
>See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.
>
>
I didn't see it. Got it tonight.

Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's an excuse to get rid of services
>>>> that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>>>
>>>
>>>> P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
>>> binaries, no matter how little I use them.
>>
>> See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.
>>
>>
> I didn't see it. Got it tonight.
>
> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.


I agree. If they're dropping Usenet and will no longer have to maintain
those servers then why aren't they going to lower our monthly bill
accordingly? I emailed Comcast to complain about it and the reply was "you
can still access newsgroups if you use a third party news provider". No
shit, Sherlock. That wasn't my point!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote

>>> sf wrote:

>> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
>> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
>> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.

I couldn't agree more.

> I agree. If they're dropping Usenet and will no longer have to maintain
> those servers then why aren't they going to lower our monthly bill
> accordingly? I emailed Comcast to complain about it and the reply was
> "you can still access newsgroups if you use a third party news provider".
> No shit, Sherlock. That wasn't my point!

I noticed they're rolling out some new, improved email. No doubt
they plan on using that as some perceived added value to
support their cost. Aside from me getting email people send me,
and blocking as much spam as they can, they can't put any
bells and whistles on it that I give a hoot about.

nancy

jmcquown wrote:
>> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's an excuse to get rid of services
>>>>> that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
>>>> binaries, no matter how little I use them.
>>>
>>> See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.
>>>
>>>
>> I didn't see it. Got it tonight.
>>
>> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
>> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
>> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
>
>
> I agree. If they're dropping Usenet and will no longer have to maintain
> those servers then why aren't they going to lower our monthly bill
> accordingly? I emailed Comcast to complain about it and the reply was
> "you can still access newsgroups if you use a third party news
> provider". No shit, Sherlock. That wasn't my point!
>
> Jill

Sorry to see you go...

-dk

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:

>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.

Howdy,

I would offer a different slant on this...

Comcast and I had an agreement:

They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
certain amount for them.

Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.

Add to that the fact that they are a local monopoly, and
well... well... Where are my pills...?

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Kenneth > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the
>>exorbitant amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be
>>part of their package.
>
> Howdy,
>
> I would offer a different slant on this...
>
> Comcast and I had an agreement:
>
> They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
> certain amount for them.
>
> Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
> negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.

class action breech of contract?


just don't ask Cuomo to be your lawyer
lee
--
Last night while sitting in my chair
I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.

"Kenneth" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>>amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
>
> Howdy,
>
> I would offer a different slant on this...
>
> Comcast and I had an agreement:
>
> They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
> certain amount for them.
>
> Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
> negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
>
> Add to that the fact that they are a local monopoly, and
> well... well... Where are my pills...?


I'm with you, dude, but then what?

TFM®

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:17:49 -0400, Kenneth wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:19:45 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>>amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
>
> Howdy,
>
> I would offer a different slant on this...
>
> Comcast and I had an agreement:
>
> They were to provide certain services, and I was to pay a
> certain amount for them.
>
> Their choice to deny me one of those services without a
> negotiated reduction in cost is unethical in the extreme.
>

that's a good theory, but i suspect that if you look at the fine print of
your service agreement, you might find it reads like a credit card
agreement, i.e. 'conditions may change at any time for any reason, so bite
me.'

your pal,
blake

sf wrote:

> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:

> > See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need
> > it.

> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.

That's fine, but the boat has sailed. If you want to sign up for a
service that charges you three bucks or more per month, go for it. For
most people who need just some binary access, a block account will be
much cheaper. A few gig would probably last all year.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 19 Sep 2008 16:31:52 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>
>> > See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need
>> > it.
>
>> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
>> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
>> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
>> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.
>
>That's fine, but the boat has sailed. If you want to sign up for a
>service that charges you three bucks or more per month, go for it. For
>most people who need just some binary access, a block account will be
>much cheaper. A few gig would probably last all year.
>
I still don't know what a block account is.


--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

Mae West

"sf" wrote in message ...
> On 18 Sep 2008 17:09:26 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>
>>> On 17 Sep 2008 19:00:22 GMT, "Default User" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > It's an excuse to get rid of services
>>> > that cost them money but really don't bring in a lot of custom
>>>
>>>
>>> :P - I do is text usenet with afb thrown in. Don't take away my
>>> binaries, no matter how little I use them.
>>
>>See my other post about block accounts for a solution if you need it.
>>
>>
> I didn't see it. Got it tonight.
>
> Don't understand what "block accounts" have to do with me lamenting
> about Comcast jettisoning Usenet. I can sign up anywhere for Usenet.
> I can afford to pay for it individually, but given the exorbitant
> amount Comcast charges - Usenet still should be part of their package.


Ahem! I called Brighthouse when they dropped newsgroups altogether and
explained to them that since they were removing a service that I was paying
for, my monthly rate should be reduced.

That was a big fat LOL in my face.

If there were another option with the speed I get now (I'm a pirate) I'd
jump on it. There isn't one here, and usenetmonster works for usenet access
including binaries.

I download through peer to peer networks. If I had a mind to, I could
download child pornography.
Unless it's cut at the source, you might as well be pulling the leaves off
weeds.


TFM®