We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
Any other ideas?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:46:36 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> wrote:

>We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
>juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
>been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
>didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
>opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
>there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
>hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
>various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
>I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
>Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
>the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
>Any other ideas?

Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
in a while. My mother always did this.

In article >,
says...
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:46:36 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> > wrote:
>
> >We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> >juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> >been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> >didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> >opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> >there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> >hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> >various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> >I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> >Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> >the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> >Any other ideas?
>
> Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
> in a while. My mother always did this.
>

Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
including me until I learned the truth.


--
Peter Aitken

Peter A wrote:

>
> Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
>
> Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
> including me until I learned the truth.
>
>

So what would you recommend?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:55:17 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>
>Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
>
>Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
>including me until I learned the truth.

I know it's on the myth list, but it works for me anyway. She can at
least try and it won't cost her an arm or a leg.


--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

In article >, sf says...
> >Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
> >
> >Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
> >including me until I learned the truth.
>
> I know it's on the myth list, but it works for me anyway. She can at
> least try and it won't cost her an arm or a leg.
>

This is an example of people being deluded by what they think is true.
You think that baking soda reduces odors, so after putting it in the
fridge for a while you convince yourself that the odors are in fact
reduced, even though they are not (or, if they are, it's from another
cause). Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance.


--
Peter Aitken

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:17:55 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>This is an example of people being deluded by what they think is true.
>You think that baking soda reduces odors, so after putting it in the
>fridge for a while you convince yourself that the odors are in fact
>reduced, even though they are not (or, if they are, it's from another
>cause). Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance.

Are you really telling me my refrigerator is cleaner than I think?
LOL That's a back handed compliment if I hever heard one.


--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:17:55 -0400, Peter A >
wrote:

>In article >, sf says...
>> >Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
>> >
>> >Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
>> >including me until I learned the truth.
>>
>> I know it's on the myth list, but it works for me anyway. She can at
>> least try and it won't cost her an arm or a leg.
>>
>
>This is an example of people being deluded by what they think is true.
>You think that baking soda reduces odors, so after putting it in the
>fridge for a while you convince yourself that the odors are in fact
>reduced, even though they are not (or, if they are, it's from another
>cause). Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance.

not exactly. from wikipedia:

Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term which describes the
uncomfortable tension that may result from having two conflicting
thoughts at the same time, or from engaging in behavior that conflicts
with one's beliefs. More precisely, it is the perception of
incompatibility between two cognitions, where "cognition" is defined
as any element of knowledge, including attitude, emotion, belief, or
behavior. The theory of cognitive dissonance states that contradicting
cognitions serve as a driving force that compels the mind to acquire
or invent new thoughts or beliefs, or to modify existing beliefs, so
as to reduce the amount of dissonance (conflict) between cognitions.
Experiments have attempted to quantify this hypothetical drive. Some
of these examined how beliefs often change to match behavior when
beliefs and behavior are in conflict.

....so it would only be cognitive dissonance if you used the baking
soda and the smell got *worse*, but you continued to use it anyway,
because mamma said so. if you use baking soda and the smell faded due
to the passage of time or some other reason, you'd merely be mistaken.
there's no real 'dissonance.'

c.d. might apply, say, if you believed george bush was a great
president, viewed the cluster**** he has orchestrated in iraq, but
continued to think he was a great president.

your pal,
karl

In article >, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:55:17 -0400, Peter A >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
> >
> >Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
> >including me until I learned the truth.
>
> I know it's on the myth list, but it works for me anyway. She can at
> least try and it won't cost her an arm or a leg.

Interesting that sometimes "myths" work so well for so many.

But I must admit, the newspaper bit always worked better for mom.
A box of fish tank activated charcoal might work even faster.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
says...
> > I know it's on the myth list, but it works for me anyway. She can at
> > least try and it won't cost her an arm or a leg.
>
> Interesting that sometimes "myths" work so well for so many.
>
>

But they don't - these people are deluded into thinking they work.

--
Peter Aitken

Omelet wrote:

> Interesting that sometimes "myths" work so well for so many.
>
> But I must admit, the newspaper bit always worked better for mom.
> A box of fish tank activated charcoal might work even faster.

Newspaper works for me. Wad up a sheets of newspaper into balls the
size of a grapfruit. Please these balls of newspaper inside your fridge.

You may want to clean each bottle and container in the refrigerator,
some of the product labels may have absorbed the foul odor (too bad it
wasn't chicken, then I could have said "fowl"). Good luck.

Becca

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:29:09 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>
>But I must admit, the newspaper bit always worked better for mom.
>A box of fish tank activated charcoal might work even faster.

While the charcoal is a great idea (haven't thought about that one in
years) it's not as readily available as A&H is at the grocery
store.... and I must have missed the news paper trick. Please repeat!


--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

Peter A wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>
> Waste of baking soda. See http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

Hmm...
"Searing meat seals in the juices"

Interesting how many executive chefs of major steak houses still seem to
believe this one...

> Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
> including me until I learned the truth.

The source given on the page you cited is:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc.../chem00388.htm

I can't help but wonder if any empirical data exists, or if it's all
opinion.

BTW, even the source states "The popular "open box of Arm & Hammer® in
the refrigerator" simply provides an adsorbent material that can soak up
odors..." - he does NOT say it doesn't work - only that it doesn't work
"very well". Compared to activated charcoal (which he recommends), I
would have to agree.

I suppose you could try a box of flour - might work just as well.

On Jul 19, 7:55 am, Peter A > wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:46:36 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> > > wrote:
>
> > >We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> > >juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> > >been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> > >didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> > >opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> > >there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> > >hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> > >various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> > >I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> > >Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> > >the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> > >Any other ideas?
>
> > Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
> > in a while. My mother always did this.
>
> Waste of baking soda. Seehttp://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
>
> Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
> including me until I learned the truth.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Except it actually works.

Works on smells carpets in cars too..


STRATEGY

STRATEGY wrote:

> On Jul 19, 7:55 am, Peter A > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
says...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:46:36 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> wrote:
>>
>>>>We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
>>>>juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
>>>>been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
>>>>didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
>>>>opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
>>>>there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
>>>>hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
>>>>various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
>>>>I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
>>>>Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
>>>>the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
>>>>Any other ideas?
>>
>>>Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
>>>in a while. My mother always did this.
>>
>>Waste of baking soda. Seehttp://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
>>
>>Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
>>including me until I learned the truth.
>>
>>--
>>Peter Aitken- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> Except it actually works.
>
> Works on smells carpets in cars too..


Especially if you use it as either a scouring or absorbent compound,
meant to be rinsed or swept away. Just sprinkling it around or leaving
an open container of baking soda in the area does little or nothing.
And I've been cautioned against using any sort of powdered preparation
on carpet. Abrasion between carpet fibers and retained crystaline
cleaning solutions accelerate wear.

I my self have gone entirely to enzyme cleaners for clearing up
biological stinks. Works way better than baking soda, vinegar or
dancing widdershins around a lightning-blasted oak at midnight on Samhain.

In article .com>,
says...
> > > Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
> > > in a while. My mother always did this.
> >
> > Waste of baking soda. Seehttp://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm
> >
> > Arm & Hammer really flummoxed millions of people with this one,
> > including me until I learned the truth.
> >
> > --
> > Peter Aitken- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Except it actually works.
>
> Works on smells carpets in cars too..
>
>
> STRATEGY
>
>
>

No it does not, in fridges at least, I don't know about carpets.
Actually, I would not be surprised if it works on carpets because the
baking soda would be in actual contact with whatever smells.

You just think it works because you expect it to work. Or, it's the
passing of time that does the trick - like the guaranteed cure for the 3
day flu: drink a bottle of gin every day for 4 days.

--
Peter Aitken

"raymond" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:46:36 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> > wrote:
>
>>We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
>>juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
>>been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
>>didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
>>opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
>>there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
>>hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
>>various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
>>I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
>>Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
>>the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
>>Any other ideas?
>
> Open a box of baking soda and leave it in the fridge. Replace it once
> in a while. My mother always did this.

I buy the flo-thru baking soda frig box and refill it from a big box of
soda.

MoM

Chatty Cathy said...

> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> Any other ideas?


Cathy,

Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!

I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.

A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep one
in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may need to
let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it up a little
every so often).

Maybe or maybe not. I dunno. I'm just The BUM!!! that forgets stuff like
that.

Andy

Andy wrote:

>
> Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!
>
> I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.
>
> A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep one
> in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may need to
> let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it up a little
> every so often).

Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to
make sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy - going to dig out the baking soda...

Chatty Cathy said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>>
>> Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!
>>
>> I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.
>>
>> A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep
>> one in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may
>> need to let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it
>> up a little every so often).
>
> Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
> and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to
> make sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".


Good. Just be careful, those boxes of baking soda have also been known to
"run 'n' hide" themselves.

Andy
What I can't see can't hurt me but, don't it STINK?!!
--Famous Last Words #2093

Andy wrote:

> Good. Just be careful, those boxes of baking soda have also been known to
> "run 'n' hide" themselves.

This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
so I don't use it that often...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:

> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
> so I don't use it that often...

As I understand it, that whole baking soda thing is just a myth to
sell lots of baking soda. If your fridge is clean, you don't need it.

nb

Chatty Cathy said...

> Andy wrote:
>
>> Good. Just be careful, those boxes of baking soda have also been known to
>> "run 'n' hide" themselves.
>
> This is true. Can't find mine... dammit. I am not much of a baker <vbg>
> so I don't use it that often...


It's for cooking?!? Will wonders never cease! )

Andy

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote

> Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
> and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to make
> sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".

If you think it's in the plastic, try scrubbing the area with the baking
soda using a cut lemon. I wonder if Febreze would help ... if they
even sell that there. Also, don't people swear by something called
Ozium?

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:

> If you think it's in the plastic, try scrubbing the area with the baking
> soda using a cut lemon. I wonder if Febreze would help ... if they
> even sell that there. Also, don't people swear by something called
> Ozium?

I have heard of Febreze here - but thought it was only a fabric
deodorizer... Anyhoo, my hands now smell of bleach, as I just finished
washing the bottom half of the fridge surface with a fairly strong
solution of it. Will see how it smells in the morning...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Chatty Cathy > wrote in news:3vKni.14470$Sb4.12832
@newsfe21.lga:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> If you think it's in the plastic, try scrubbing the area with the baking
>> soda using a cut lemon. I wonder if Febreze would help ... if they
>> even sell that there. Also, don't people swear by something called
>> Ozium?
>
> I have heard of Febreze here - but thought it was only a fabric
> deodorizer... Anyhoo, my hands now smell of bleach, as I just finished
> washing the bottom half of the fridge surface with a fairly strong
> solution of it. Will see how it smells in the morning...




Hot water with vanilla essence in it.

Wash with that.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:20:53 +0200, Chatty Cathy
> wrote:

>Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> If you think it's in the plastic, try scrubbing the area with the baking
>> soda using a cut lemon. I wonder if Febreze would help ... if they
>> even sell that there. Also, don't people swear by something called
>> Ozium?
>
>I have heard of Febreze here - but thought it was only a fabric
>deodorizer... Anyhoo, my hands now smell of bleach, as I just finished
>washing the bottom half of the fridge surface with a fairly strong
>solution of it. Will see how it smells in the morning...

Keep the door open! Let that puppy air out.


--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

Nancy Young said...

> Also, don't people swear by something called
> Ozium?


WE DID IN COLLEGE!!!!!!

Andy

l, not -l said...

>
> On 19-Jul-2007, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Amazing, those "run 'n' hide" food BUMS!!! Very clever of them!
>> >
>> > I also have "lost 'n' found" disgusting stuff in the fridge.
>> >
>> > A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep
>> > one
>> > in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may need
to
>> >
>> > let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it up a
>> > little
>> > every so often).
>>
>> Come to think of it I should have thought about the baking soda thing -
>> and I know I have some in the cupboard. I just had "another look" to
>> make sure I didn't miss any of the gunk, but its appears to be "clean".
>
> For a bit faster odor removal, dump the baking soda out of the box, into
a
> bowl to increase the working surface area. After a few hours, stir the
> baking soda in the bowl to bring "fresher" soda to the top. After a
> two-or-three of rounds of this, you should notice a big difference. At
> that point, you can augment or replace the bowl of soda with an open box
to
> keep odors under control.


l, not -l

WHY did that remind me of "Getting Better" (Beatles, "Sgt. Pepper")

Explain!

Andy

Andy wrote:
> A box of Arm 'n' Hammer Baking soda should suck up the aromas. I keep one
> in there and replace it about every quarter of the year. You may need to
> let a box just spend a week to do away with the stink (shake it up a little
> every so often).

1. How do you know when it's working?
2. How do you know when it needs to be replaced.

>
> Andy

-bwg

"Chatty Cathy" > wrote in message
...
> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold, there
> was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge - hiding
> under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with various
> "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but I can
> still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what? Do I
> empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in the
> other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or... Any
> other ideas?
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have absorbed a
bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes seem to absorb oils
from foods you store in them. I find the best way to clean these is with the
soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of undiluted dish detergent.
Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the soap from the inside of the
fridge (compared to rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove
any fat residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

>
> Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have absorbed a
> bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes seem to absorb oils
> from foods you store in them. I find the best way to clean these is with the
> soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of undiluted dish detergent.
> Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the soap from the inside of the
> fridge (compared to rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove
> any fat residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.
>
>
I should have mentioned that this stuff was some sort of "disinfectant
cleaner" - supposed to remove "greasy stuff". But I am gonna try the
baking soda - and see if that helps. If not, I'll just have to bite the
bullet, give it another going-over - and then switch it off and let it
"air" for a few days. Sigh.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

My computer needs to be able to browse the web, transfer email, and
irritate the newsgroups comfortably
- Mark Adams

Chatty Cathy > wrote in
:

> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>
>> Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have
>> absorbed a bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes
>> seem to absorb oils from foods you store in them. I find the best way
>> to clean these is with the soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of
>> undiluted dish detergent. Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the
>> soap from the inside of the fridge (compared to rinsing containers
>> over the sink), but it should remove any fat residue. Disinfectants
>> aren't designed for that.
>>
>>
> I should have mentioned that this stuff was some sort of "disinfectant
> cleaner" - supposed to remove "greasy stuff". But I am gonna try the
> baking soda - and see if that helps. If not, I'll just have to bite
> the bullet, give it another going-over - and then switch it off and
> let it "air" for a few days. Sigh.
>



The baking soda will fix it.

I had some prawns I put in the fridge and forgot about them, and went
away for about 2 days.

After trying the washing thing, and disinfectants, and hot water with
vanilla essence in it..... I stuck a 500g packet of baking soda in there
with the top ripped off.

2 days later, no smell at all.

Good shit that stuff!!

Great for tenderizing meat for stir frys......... great for removing oil
stains of the concrete in the driveway!!
Also good for taking the crystal acid build-up off your battery
terminals!!

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Brisbane
Australia

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:04:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>
>Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have absorbed a
>bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes seem to absorb oils
>from foods you store in them. I find the best way to clean these is with the
>soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of undiluted dish detergent.
>Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the soap from the inside of the
>fridge (compared to rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove
>any fat residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.

I have found that an amonia and water solution makes a great grease
cutter. That's what I use on and around my stovetop.


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In article >, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:04:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have absorbed a
> >bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes seem to absorb oils
> >from foods you store in them. I find the best way to clean these is with the
> >soft side of a scrub sponge and a shot of undiluted dish detergent.
> >Obviously, it'll be a chore to wipe off the soap from the inside of the
> >fridge (compared to rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove
> >any fat residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.
>
> I have found that an amonia and water solution makes a great grease
> cutter. That's what I use on and around my stovetop.

I use glass cleaner to cut grease on the stove top. Stinks less, but
it's got ammonia in it which is why it probably works. ;-)
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, sf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:04:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have
>>> absorbed a bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes
>>> seem to absorb oils from foods you store in them. I find the best
>>> way to clean these is with the soft side of a scrub sponge and a
>>> shot of undiluted dish detergent. Obviously, it'll be a chore to
>>> wipe off the soap from the inside of the fridge (compared to
>>> rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove any fat
>>> residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.
>>
>> I have found that an amonia and water solution makes a great grease
>> cutter. That's what I use on and around my stovetop.
>
> I use glass cleaner to cut grease on the stove top. Stinks less, but
> it's got ammonia in it which is why it probably works. ;-)

Yep, I'm a windex freak when it comes to grease cutting. It works so well.

kili

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article >, sf wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:04:36 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Unless it was skim milk, the plastic (fridge surface) may have
> >>> absorbed a bit of fat, in the same way plastic containers sometimes
> >>> seem to absorb oils from foods you store in them. I find the best
> >>> way to clean these is with the soft side of a scrub sponge and a
> >>> shot of undiluted dish detergent. Obviously, it'll be a chore to
> >>> wipe off the soap from the inside of the fridge (compared to
> >>> rinsing containers over the sink), but it should remove any fat
> >>> residue. Disinfectants aren't designed for that.
> >>
> >> I have found that an amonia and water solution makes a great grease
> >> cutter. That's what I use on and around my stovetop.
> >
> > I use glass cleaner to cut grease on the stove top. Stinks less, but
> > it's got ammonia in it which is why it probably works. ;-)
>
> Yep, I'm a windex freak when it comes to grease cutting. It works so well.
>
> kili

And it does not stink like pure Ammonia does!

I cannot stand the smell of pure sudsy Ammonia.
The one time I tried it, I had to open all the windows and doors, and
run every fan I could find!
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On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:

> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...

If you used a bleach solution to clean, that should do it. Make sure
you clean the evaporation pan under the fridge as some milk may have
dripped down.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2007-07-19, Chatty Cathy > wrote:
>
>> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
>
> If you used a bleach solution to clean, that should do it. Make sure
> you clean the evaporation pan under the fridge as some milk may have
> dripped down.

Dang - I am out of baking soda - but I do have liquid bleach... and yes,
you are right nb - I never thought to look under the damn fridge...
there may be some there too. Thanks.
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Chatty Cathy wrote:
> We have two fridges. One big, one small. Keep the milk, cream, butter,
> juice etc. and a few "overflow" items in the small one. There must have
> been some milk or cream leaking in the smaller one at some point that I
> didn't notice - until I could smell that awful "sour milk" smell when I
> opened the door. Anyway, I pulled everything out and, lo and behold,
> there was some "rotten" milk solids at the very bottom of the fridge -
> hiding under the "vegetable trays". Yuk! So I scrubbed it all out with
> various "disinfectant" products (that are available here) yesterday, but
> I can still smell it every time I open the door. Double-yuk. Now what?
> Do I empty the whole thing and try and find space for the milk etc. in
> the other fridge, switch it off and leave it open for a few days, or...
> Any other ideas?

Could there possibly be any milk residue that leaked onto the rubber
gasket parts of the door that you may not have cleaned?

Good luck!
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