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Weber Genesis B Silver-Our New Toy
Wow. I think we scored big. A brand new Weber Genesis B Silver (although
I understand that they are discontinued) for $398.00. 3 Stainless Steel burners, 36K BTU. I like the bottom cabinet which hides the tank from view. Nice compact drop down shelf in front of fixed shelf. And it fits perfectly on the porch. The lack of a side burner is a plus, as we rarely to never used our previous grill side burner. He went out with to buy the newer Weber Spirit E-310 which runs nearer to $499.00 but came home with this. Apparently Walmart had it in stock. I hate Walmart, and wouldn't have looked there but he did...and scored. At least it is an American made grill. Husband is reading the manual (wuss, lol) now. Let the grilling games begin! Goomba |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:36:23 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote: >Let the grilling games begin! >Goomba So, are you grilling tonight? If so, what are you grilling? Or if not tonight, what's the first thing you are going to grill on it? We want pictures too. Christine |
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Christine Dabney wrote:
> > So, are you grilling tonight? If so, what are you grilling? Or if > not tonight, what's the first thing you are going to grill on it? With new equipment, I'd cook some stuff just to drive out chemicals in the painted surfaces and season the grill. Like cheap pork sausages, which would then be tossed out or fed to the dog (if I had a dog -- there was a coyote howling nearby last night, but I don't lay claim to it). And if one batch didn't clear out any chemical smells, I do it again and again until they're gone. |
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Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:36:23 -0400, Goomba38 > > wrote: > > >> Let the grilling games begin! >> Goomba > > So, are you grilling tonight? If so, what are you grilling? Or if not > tonight, what's the first thing you are going to grill on it? > > We want pictures too. > > Christine LOL, no I'm not! (Or I should say he's not!) He's in charge of grilling in this house. Of course with this new beast so simple to use I might use it on my own more often?? I had already started a huge pot of tomato sauce and we're having macaroni tonight. He was craving it earlier than his shopping trip. But we have four thick rib eyes that we're anticipating grilling tomorrow night. |
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"Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" > wrote in
6.121: > Whatcha' makin'? I have a mental image of you and the hubster with > white hats and aprons looking over the grill. Like a surgical team > > Michael > Does it come Assembled? -- The house of the burning beet-Alan It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night- Elbonian Folklore |
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Goomba38 wrote:
> Wow. I think we scored big. A brand new Weber Genesis B Silver (although > I understand that they are discontinued) for $398.00. 3 Stainless Steel > burners, 36K BTU. I like the bottom cabinet which hides the tank from > view. Nice compact drop down shelf in front of fixed shelf. And it fits > perfectly on the porch. An outdoor grill on the porch??? Almost guaranteed you will burn your house down. Put that thing on the ground, a minimum of 15 feet from your house and from any other combustable material. This is not a joke. Sheldon |
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Sheldon wrote:
> An outdoor grill on the porch??? Almost guaranteed you will burn your > house down. Put that thing on the ground, a minimum of 15 feet from > your house and from any other combustable material. This is not a > joke. > > Sheldon But why is it any different than sitting on the deck? The only thing that encloses it is the roof (high up at that) and floor to ceiling screen. It gets plenty of ventilation, so it isn't'that... so seriously I don't understand..? |
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Goomba38 wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote: > > > An outdoor grill on the porch??? Almost guaranteed you will > > burn your house down. Put that thing on the ground, a minimum of > > 15 feet from your house and from any other combustable material. > > This is not a joke. > > But why is it any different than sitting on the deck? The only > thing that encloses it is the roof (high up at that) and floor to > ceiling screen. It gets plenty of ventilation, so it isn't'that... > so seriously I don't understand..? On the one hand, I agree with Sheldon that safety is really important, and that few people pay enough attention to that. On the other hand, I'm not worried about you. You seem to be intelligent enough not to make the stupid mistakes which typically result in death. I've done much chancier things, but always with my eyes wide open. If I left a hot BBQ unattended, I would always hose down the whole area (20 feet diameter, more for ignitable substances) with copious water. I would even hose down a gravel driveway, if it was within the diameter. Even those precautions would keep my safety nerves on edge. Nobody has mentioned carbon monoxide poisoning. Once one makes an appropriate sacrifice to the fire safety gods, the most common critical omission is attending to the carbon monoxide hazard. A friend of mine came close to killing himself and his whole family because of that. If rising hot combustion gases could be caught by a roof gable and passed into an open window, I would worry about that. Of course, if you have a carbon monoxide warning detector, then there should be no problem. Mine indicates the ambient CO level before it sounds an alarm, so I can monitor the situation quite well. |
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On May 28, 9:50�pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote: > > An outdoor grill on the porch??? *Almost guaranteed you will burn your > > house down. *Put that thing on the ground, a minimum of 15 feet from > > your house and from any other combustable material. *This is not a > > joke. > > > Sheldon > > But why is it any different than sitting on the deck? The only thing > that encloses it is the roof (high up at that) and floor to ceiling > screen. It gets plenty of ventilation, so it isn't'that... so seriously > I don't understand..? What's not to understand? No grill should ever be used on a deck, porch, or anything that can burn. Grills go on the ground or masonary patio.... and placed a minimum of 15 feet from the house or any combustible material, not near a shed, fence, not even a tree. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...07/ai_n9276767 http://www.naplesfire.com/documents/...rill_Fires.pdf |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 21:50:28 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote: >Sheldon wrote: > >> An outdoor grill on the porch??? Almost guaranteed you will burn your >> house down. Put that thing on the ground, a minimum of 15 feet from >> your house and from any other combustable material. This is not a >> joke. >> >> Sheldon > >But why is it any different than sitting on the deck? The only thing >that encloses it is the roof (high up at that) and floor to ceiling >screen. It gets plenty of ventilation, so it isn't'that... so seriously >I don't understand..? I think a photo of the area in question would be appropriate in order to make a valued judgment. I also think the food in question, and any condiments used should be included. Thank you for your cooperation. Koko --- Moving from http://kokoscorner.blogspot.com to http://www.kokoscorner.typepad.com "There is no love more sincere than the love of food" George Bernard Shaw |
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"Goomba38" > wrote in message > > But why is it any different than sitting on the deck? The only thing that > encloses it is the roof (high up at that) and floor to ceiling screen. It > gets plenty of ventilation, so it isn't'that... so seriously I don't > understand..? In another newsgroup the question came up. 36% of all structure fires are cooking related. Here is some information about grill fires http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/tfrs/v2i3-508.pdf While Sheldon is correct, I still have my grill on the deck, but it is 15' away from the house and there is no overhang above it. There are 6500 fires a year. Nearly a third of residential grill fires start on a court, terrace, or patio (Figure 4). Lawns and other nearby open areas account for an additional 27% of fire locations, and exterior balconies or open porches account for 21%. Some areas where residential grill fires start (specifically balconies or porches of apartments or condominiums) violate fire codes in many jurisdictions. A gas grill fire broke out on June 14, 1998, in Buffalo, New York. The fire injured three people and two firefighters and caused nearly $1 million damage to a nearby apartment building and its contents, leaving eight families homeless. An improperly threaded connection on a propane gas tank located on a wooden deck of an outdoor grill sparked the fire.7 If you have a bad flare up on the grill, it is far more likely to do damage if it is next to your house, or under a roof of some sort. No way would I use a grill in a screened area. |
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Sheldon wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote: >> Wow. I think we scored big. A brand new Weber Genesis B Silver >> (although I understand that they are discontinued) for $398.00. 3 >> Stainless Steel burners, 36K BTU. I like the bottom cabinet which >> hides the tank from view. Nice compact drop down shelf in front of >> fixed shelf. And it fits perfectly on the porch. > > An outdoor grill on the porch??? Almost guaranteed you will burn your > house down. Put that thing on the ground, a minimum of 15 feet from > your house and from any other combustable material. This is not a > joke. > > Sheldon I'd have to go with Sheldon on this one. We have a concrete block house and concrete blocks for a "lanai" (if you can even call it that) and my husband still drags grills and smokers away to the farthest corner when he's using them. We don't have a gas grill; all of ours are wood-based, but ashes can still fly and they do. I've finally gotten my husband to listen about not wearing shoes when he's grilling after he's stepped on enough hot coals. :~) kili |
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On May 29, 8:20�am, "kilikini" > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote: > > Goomba38 *wrote: > >> Wow. I think we scored big. A brand new Weber Genesis B Silver > >> (although I understand that they are discontinued) for $398.00. 3 > >> Stainless Steel burners, 36K BTU. I like the bottom cabinet which > >> hides the tank from view. Nice compact drop down shelf in front of > >> fixed shelf. And it fits perfectly on the porch. > > > An outdoor grill on the porch??? *Almost guaranteed you will burn your > > house down. *Put that thing on the ground, a minimum of 15 feet from > > your house and from any other combustable material. *This is not a > > joke. > > > Sheldon > > I'd have to go with Sheldon on this one. *We have a concrete block house and > concrete blocks for a "lanai" (if you can even call it that) and my husband > still drags grills and smokers away to the farthest corner when he's using > them. > > We don't have a gas grill; all of ours are wood-based, but ashes can still > fly and they do. *I've finally gotten my husband to listen about not wearing > shoes when he's grilling after he's stepped on enough hot coals. *:~) Not only do folks have stupid safety habits (it'll never happen to me attitude) often they are against the law. When your house does burn down due to subborn stupidity (and eventually it will) and upon investigation it is discovered that you didn't comply with the municipal ordinances you will not be able to collect damages under your insurance policy... and just about every municipality within the US has ordinances pertaining to use of outdoor grills... your local fire department will be happy to supply you with a copy. Unfortunately fire marshalls are notoriously remiss in enforcing codes... really don't need a fire marshall to come around *after* the fact... contrary to popular belief fire departments are NOT in the business of fire _prevention_... as Smokey the Bear says "Only YOU can prevent a fire!" http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/tfrs/v2i3-508.pdf Wood decks are highly flammable, even more so with cooking grease spatter soaking into the wood. Everyone who grills will have flare ups, adn everyone who grills will occasionally leave the grill unattended, no exception... only takes as few drops of flaming grease to dribble out the bottom of a grill to ignite a deck... and I've yet to see anyone with fire extinguisher near their grill, not even once, except me. Fire will engulf a wood deck like it was a christmas tree, within three minutes the entire deck will be ablaze, that will ignite the house and its intense heat will cause a raging inferno. Every year people die from grills on decks. My grill is on the ground. Yes, it's a small chore to decend the four steps of my deck down to the ground and the six paces away from my house to the grill, but the worst that will happen if I did leave my grill unattended is incinerated food. Sheldon |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Goomba38" > wrote in message >> >> But why is it any different than sitting on the deck? The only thing >> that encloses it is the roof (high up at that) and floor to ceiling >> screen. It gets plenty of ventilation, so it isn't'that... so >> seriously I don't understand..? > > In another newsgroup the question came up. 36% of all structure > fires are cooking related. Here is some information about grill fires > http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/tfrs/v2i3-508.pdf > > While Sheldon is correct, I still have my grill on the deck, but it > is 15' away from the house and there is no overhang above it. (snippage) > If you have a bad flare up on the grill, it is far more likely to do > damage if it is next to your house, or under a roof of some sort. No > way would I use a grill in a screened area. In my last apartment I lived upstairs and my balcony was wooden (eek!). The man who lived downstairs had a small fenced patio, about 8X10 sq. feet. He appeared to have primary custody of 4 children, the oldest of which was a boy about 14 or 15 years old. Apparently his father had told him to get dinner going before he got home. The boy lit the (charcoal) grill and threw some chicken on it, then went inside to play Nintendo or whatever it was he did. Had I not been sitting on the balcony I would never have noticed the flames shooting up (a good 4-6 feet! what the HELL did he use to light that grill?!). The entire building could have been engaged in no time. I ran downstairs, beat on the door and yelled your grill is on fire! The kid got buckets of water (heh, no fire extinquisher in the place, DOH!) to douse the flames. (That was one stupid father, by the way. He was an appliance painter and kept paint and other flammable items on his patio within feet of the grill.) The ordinances in my area state grills must be at least 15 feet from the building, regardless of the type of dwelling, and not placed on a wooden surface or in an enclosed area. I frequently saw a number of more intelligent people dragging their grills out onto the walkway, well away from the buildings, if they wanted to cook out. Jill |
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Goomba38 wrote:
> Wow. I think we scored big. A brand new Weber Genesis B Silver (although > I understand that they are discontinued) for $398.00. 3 Stainless Steel > burners, 36K BTU. I like the bottom cabinet which hides the tank from > view. Nice compact drop down shelf in front of fixed shelf. And it fits > perfectly on the porch. The lack of a side burner is a plus, as we > rarely to never used our previous grill side burner. > He went out with to buy the newer Weber Spirit E-310 which runs nearer > to $499.00 but came home with this. Apparently Walmart had it in stock. > I hate Walmart, and wouldn't have looked there but he did...and scored. > At least it is an American made grill. > Husband is reading the manual (wuss, lol) now. > Let the grilling games begin! > Goomba Enjoy your Weber Genesis Grill. I bought one at Home Depot a few weeks ago and I have no complaints. Becca |
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