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Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?

It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?

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"Karen" wrote

Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?


(laugh) That's funny. I think French ovens are oval, rather than
round.

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"Nancy Young" wrote:
"Karen" wrote

Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?


(laugh) That's funny. I think French ovens are oval, rather than
round.


It is funny, but it's simpler than that, I think. It's a French oven because
it's made in France. You wouldn't think a French company would all it a
Dutch oven, would you? ;-) It's a nationalism thing.

Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
(French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
marketeers.

On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.

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"Karen" wrote


It is funny, but it's simpler than that, I think. It's a French oven because
it's made in France. You wouldn't think a French company would all it a
Dutch oven, would you? ;-) It's a nationalism thing.

Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
(French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
marketeers.

On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.

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I think the French call it a cocotte. A pressure cooker would be a
cocotte minute.

Tracy


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"wff_ng_7" wrote

"Nancy Young" wrote:
"Karen" wrote

Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?


(laugh) That's funny. I think French ovens are oval, rather than
round.


It is funny, but it's simpler than that, I think. It's a French oven
because it's made in France. You wouldn't think a French company would all
it a Dutch oven, would you? ;-) It's a nationalism thing.


Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
(French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
marketeers.

On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.


Yeah, I wasn't talking about French ovens in the broad sense,
just the pot she is talking about from Le Creuset. Heh.
I'm pretty sure they call their oval 'dutch oven' type pots
French pots.

nancy




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"wff_ng_7" wrote:
Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
(French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
marketeers.

On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.


Thought I'd see what name Le Creuset is using around the world for these on
their different web sites. Here's the countries and the names they used:

USA - oven, round and oval
UK - casserole, round and oval
Australia - French oven, round and oval
South Africa - cocotte, round and oval

Cocotte was the French word I was trying to think of.

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On Mar 20, 1:04 pm, "wff_ng_7" wrote:
On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.


Maybe the enameling makes it a French oven?

Karen

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"Karen" wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:04 pm, "wff_ng_7" wrote:
On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.


Maybe the enameling makes it a French oven?


There is a little something to that, because France was the source of most
enameled cast iron cookware imported into the USA at one time. But is was
also made in other countries such as Belgium, Holland, Sweden, Germany, and
Switzerland. For that matter, it was also made in the USA by Prizerware,
Griswold, and Vollrath at one time.

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"Steve Wertz" wrote:
On 20 Mar 2007 12:38:07 -0700, Karen wrote:

Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?

It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?


Haven't heard this question for... what, 2 weeks? Same exact
question about the same pot:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...a0bbafc80aed19


I guess Costco has more than one customer then? ;-)

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"Karen" wrote

On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.


Maybe the enameling makes it a French oven?


They have many enameled pots, they don't call them all French ovens.

nancy




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Karen wrote:

Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?

It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?


According to the Le Creuset site ........."For generations, families have
come to cherish the classic cocotte. This everyday Round French Oven (or
Dutch oven, referred by most people) never makes it to the cupboard: it
goes from the stove or oven to the table to the dishwasher then back to the
stove for tomorrow's dinner. If there are leftovers in the pot, save them
for tomorrow. "

Despite that, they have some products describes as French Ovens while
similar looking products are called Dutch Ovens. AFAIAC it doesn't make a
heck of a lot of difference. I use Paderno , and they call them Dutch
ovens.

http://www.lecreuset.com/usa/product...?product_id=93

http://www.lecreuset.com/usa/product...?product_id=93
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Karen wrote:
Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?

It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?

Thanks
Karen


As you've already read, it's the same thing. But what you'd be paying for
is the name Le Crueset more than anything. I'm sure you can find any number
of nice heavy enamelled cast iron "Dutch ovens" (which in itself is a
misnomer) for much less money.

Jill


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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:58:31 -0600, in rec.food.cooking, jmcquown wrote:


As you've already read, it's the same thing. But what you'd be paying for
is the name Le Crueset more than anything. I'm sure you can find any number
of nice heavy enamelled cast iron "Dutch ovens" (which in itself is a
misnomer) for much less money.


I've got a Le Creuset casserole I call a Dutch Oven. But my brother in
Indiana has a Dutch Oven he cooked a leg of lamb in recently on the
barbecue, and it's got a lid that holds coals. Look it up in Wikapedia.

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