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Karen[_3_] 20-03-2007 07:38 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?

Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?

It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?

Thanks
Karen


Nancy Young 20-03-2007 07:48 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 

"Karen" > wrote

> Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
> What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?
>
> Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?


(laugh) That's funny. I think French ovens are oval, rather than
round.

nancy




wff_ng_7 20-03-2007 08:04 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
"Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Karen" > wrote
>
>> Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
>> What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?
>>
>> Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?

>
> (laugh) That's funny. I think French ovens are oval, rather than
> round.


It is funny, but it's simpler than that, I think. It's a French oven because
it's made in France. You wouldn't think a French company would all it a
Dutch oven, would you? ;-) It's a nationalism thing.

Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
(French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
marketeers.

On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
oven" to describe the two shapes.

--
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Tracy 20-03-2007 08:11 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
> > "Karen" > wrote
>
>
> It is funny, but it's simpler than that, I think. It's a French oven because
> it's made in France. You wouldn't think a French company would all it a
> Dutch oven, would you? ;-) It's a nationalism thing.
>
> Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
> (French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
> that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
> marketeers.
>
> On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
> oven" to describe the two shapes.
>
> --
> wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net


I think the French call it a cocotte. A pressure cooker would be a
cocotte minute.

Tracy



Nancy Young 20-03-2007 08:19 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 

"wff_ng_7" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>> "Karen" > wrote
>>
>>> Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
>>> What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?
>>>
>>> Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?

>>
>> (laugh) That's funny. I think French ovens are oval, rather than
>> round.

>
> It is funny, but it's simpler than that, I think. It's a French oven
> because it's made in France. You wouldn't think a French company would all
> it a Dutch oven, would you? ;-) It's a nationalism thing.


> Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
> (French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
> that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
> marketeers.
>
> On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
> oven" to describe the two shapes.


Yeah, I wasn't talking about French ovens in the broad sense,
just the pot she is talking about from Le Creuset. Heh.
I'm pretty sure they call their oval 'dutch oven' type pots
French pots.

nancy



wff_ng_7 20-03-2007 08:24 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
"wff_ng_7" > wrote:
> Actually, I don't believe they use either term in France. There's another
> (French) word for them over there. "Dutch oven" is a generic cooking term
> that's been around forever. I think "French oven" is an invention of the
> marketeers.
>
> On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
> oven" to describe the two shapes.


Thought I'd see what name Le Creuset is using around the world for these on
their different web sites. Here's the countries and the names they used:

USA - oven, round and oval
UK - casserole, round and oval
Australia - French oven, round and oval
South Africa - cocotte, round and oval

Cocotte was the French word I was trying to think of.

--
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Karen[_3_] 20-03-2007 08:26 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
On Mar 20, 1:04 pm, "wff_ng_7" > wrote:
> On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
> oven" to describe the two shapes.


Maybe the enameling makes it a French oven?

Karen


wff_ng_7 20-03-2007 08:37 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
"Karen" > wrote:
> On Mar 20, 1:04 pm, "wff_ng_7" > wrote:
>> On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
>> oven" to describe the two shapes.

>
> Maybe the enameling makes it a French oven?


There is a little something to that, because France was the source of most
enameled cast iron cookware imported into the USA at one time. But is was
also made in other countries such as Belgium, Holland, Sweden, Germany, and
Switzerland. For that matter, it was also made in the USA by Prizerware,
Griswold, and Vollrath at one time.

--
wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net


wff_ng_7 20-03-2007 08:40 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
"Steve Wertz" > wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2007 12:38:07 -0700, Karen wrote:
>
>> Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
>> What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?
>>
>> Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?
>>
>> It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?

>
> Haven't heard this question for... what, 2 weeks? Same exact
> question about the same pot:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...a0bbafc80aed19
>


I guess Costco has more than one customer then? ;-)


Nancy Young 20-03-2007 08:42 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 

"Karen" > wrote

>> On Le Creuset's USA web site, they use the terms "round oven" and "oval
>> oven" to describe the two shapes.

>
> Maybe the enameling makes it a French oven?


They have many enameled pots, they don't call them all French ovens.

nancy



Dave Smith[_2_] 20-03-2007 09:01 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 


Karen wrote:
>
> Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
> What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?
>
> Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?
>
> It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?
>


According to the Le Creuset site ........."For generations, families have
come to cherish the classic cocotte. This everyday Round French Oven (or
Dutch oven, referred by most people) never makes it to the cupboard: it
goes from the stove or oven to the table to the dishwasher then back to the
stove for tomorrow's dinner. If there are leftovers in the pot, save them
for tomorrow. "

Despite that, they have some products describes as French Ovens while
similar looking products are called Dutch Ovens. AFAIAC it doesn't make a
heck of a lot of difference. I use Paderno , and they call them Dutch
ovens.

http://www.lecreuset.com/usa/product...?product_id=93

http://www.lecreuset.com/usa/product...?product_id=93

jmcquown 20-03-2007 10:58 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
Karen wrote:
> Saw a Lecrueset "French Oven" at Costco. It looks like a Dutch oven.
> What is the difference between a French oven and a Dutch oven?
>
> Is it a different size or quality? Is it Frenchified somehow?
>
> It was $169, so don't think that's such a great deal, is it?
>
> Thanks
> Karen


As you've already read, it's the same thing. But what you'd be paying for
is the name Le Crueset more than anything. I'm sure you can find any number
of nice heavy enamelled cast iron "Dutch ovens" (which in itself is a
misnomer) for much less money.

Jill



Doug Weller 25-03-2007 04:06 PM

Are all French ovens Dutch ovens?
 
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:58:31 -0600, in rec.food.cooking, jmcquown wrote:

>
>As you've already read, it's the same thing. But what you'd be paying for
>is the name Le Crueset more than anything. I'm sure you can find any number
>of nice heavy enamelled cast iron "Dutch ovens" (which in itself is a
>misnomer) for much less money.


I've got a Le Creuset casserole I call a Dutch Oven. But my brother in
Indiana has a Dutch Oven he cooked a leg of lamb in recently on the
barbecue, and it's got a lid that holds coals. Look it up in Wikapedia.

Doug
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