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> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:55:04 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
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>> <-> wrote:
>>>On 17 Oct 2006 20:06:24 +0200, "cybercat" >
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>>>><Alan
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>>>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:27:07 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote:
>>>>>>>This is why it's wise to take a probiotic when you are taking
>>>>>>>antibiotics. One excellent and inexpensive brand I use is PB-8. It's
>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>8 organism balanced flora supplement. Yogurt is okay in a pinch but I
>>>>>>>believe a multi-organism supplement is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Live-culture yogurt has up to 5 different bugs in it and
>>>>>>will take over your current intestinal menagerie if you
>>>>>>eat it consistently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Blair
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is, of course, touted as a health benefit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I eat yogurt consistently, and it hasn't taken over my intestinal
>>>>> menagerie.
>>>>
>>>>How do you know?
>>>
>>>Well, for other reasons, I've been tested, and my intestinal flora
>>>were all OK. . . .

>>
>>"All OK" means you aren't carrying anything bad.
>>
>>Score one for yogurt.
>>
>> --Blair

> Right! I didn't say it yogurt was bad. I just said that it hadn't
> "taken over".. My take is that it 'augmented'.
>
> Alan


Lots of doctors still suggest eating yogurt if you're taking antibiotics and
they whack your digestive system. It works. If it's true that TOO MUCH
yogurt can have adverse effects, I would theorize that it would primarily
happen to people to aren't especially smart. I mean....what does it take to
realize that your diet is dominated by too much of a certain thing?


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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


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> Lots of doctors still suggest eating yogurt if you're taking antibiotics and
> they whack your digestive system. It works. If it's true that TOO MUCH
> yogurt can have adverse effects, I would theorize that it would primarily
> happen to people to aren't especially smart. I mean....what does it take to
> realize that your diet is dominated by too much of a certain thing?
>



Just to add an interesting tidbit...I found Yogurt gave me vicious joint
paint...in my hands, wrists, elbows and ankles. It got to the point that
it was painful to walk...then I came across a site written by a dairy
farmer whose wife suffered from the same symptoms. Somehow they
pinpointed the dairy products as the source and she quit everything
dairy (ironic...given she lives on a diary farm) and within a year, she
was completely recovered.

I did the same and within days, the pain had subsided (I had been eating
the Yogurt for only three weeks - one or two little cups a day). I've
experimented with all the dairy products since and found Yogurt to be,
by far, the worst offender. Why? I have no idea.

Six months later, I can drink milk and eat cheese with little problem.

Unfortunately, <sigh> the Yogurt got turfed from my diet. YKMV.

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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Lots of doctors still suggest eating yogurt if you're taking antibiotics
>> and they whack your digestive system. It works. If it's true that TOO
>> MUCH yogurt can have adverse effects, I would theorize that it would
>> primarily happen to people to aren't especially smart. I mean....what
>> does it take to realize that your diet is dominated by too much of a
>> certain thing?

>
>
> Just to add an interesting tidbit...I found Yogurt gave me vicious joint
> paint...in my hands, wrists, elbows and ankles. It got to the point that
> it was painful to walk...then I came across a site written by a dairy
> farmer whose wife suffered from the same symptoms. Somehow they pinpointed
> the dairy products as the source and she quit everything dairy
> (ironic...given she lives on a diary farm) and within a year, she was
> completely recovered.
>
> I did the same and within days, the pain had subsided (I had been eating
> the Yogurt for only three weeks - one or two little cups a day). I've
> experimented with all the dairy products since and found Yogurt to be, by
> far, the worst offender. Why? I have no idea.
>
> Six months later, I can drink milk and eat cheese with little problem.
>
> Unfortunately, <sigh> the Yogurt got turfed from my diet. YKMV.
> MMVIII


That's interesting. Was it any particular kind of yogurt, or various brands
and flavors?


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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "cloud dreamer" > wrote in message
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>>JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Lots of doctors still suggest eating yogurt if you're taking antibiotics
>>>and they whack your digestive system. It works. If it's true that TOO
>>>MUCH yogurt can have adverse effects, I would theorize that it would
>>>primarily happen to people to aren't especially smart. I mean....what
>>>does it take to realize that your diet is dominated by too much of a
>>>certain thing?

>>
>>
>>Just to add an interesting tidbit...I found Yogurt gave me vicious joint
>>paint...in my hands, wrists, elbows and ankles. It got to the point that
>>it was painful to walk...then I came across a site written by a dairy
>>farmer whose wife suffered from the same symptoms. Somehow they pinpointed
>>the dairy products as the source and she quit everything dairy
>>(ironic...given she lives on a diary farm) and within a year, she was
>>completely recovered.
>>
>>I did the same and within days, the pain had subsided (I had been eating
>>the Yogurt for only three weeks - one or two little cups a day). I've
>>experimented with all the dairy products since and found Yogurt to be, by
>>far, the worst offender. Why? I have no idea.
>>
>>Six months later, I can drink milk and eat cheese with little problem.
>>
>>Unfortunately, <sigh> the Yogurt got turfed from my diet. YKMV.
>>MMVIII

>
>
> That's interesting. Was it any particular kind of yogurt, or various brands
> and flavors?
>
>


I avoided those with artificial sweetners, so my experience is solely
with those that have non-artificial sweetners. I tried different brand
names (except for the local one) and tried both plain and those with
goodies in them (like fruit, chocolate bits etc). I really think it's
the dairy because "a lot" of cheese and milk will give a similar result,
just not as painful as the yogurt. I've reduced my cheese intake so that
I can drink as much milk as my bones need. I've also tried different
milk fat levels on all the products - the result is the same for regular
cheese, yogurt and milk as it is for the low fat varities. I drink skim
milk now.

I even tried calcium supplements to see if I could get away from the
pain, and found a similar result...so to me, I've narrowed it down to
the calcium (or perhaps the Vitamin D...so I plan to try a Vitamin D
supplement now that the season has changed).

Certainly, none of it is very encouraging as I face menopause before
long...when calcium is so important. YKMV.

..

MMVIII
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