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Here is lots of prose describing what I did and the recipe I finally made
for this cake/cookie. It was sent to a Jewish food mail list, hence the
discussion about makign it with margarine. many observant households
never make dairy cakes as most festive meals have meat and having to keep
2 sets of baking tools and pans is expensive and space consuming. I solve
it by only making dairy cookies and making my non-dairy cakes in loaf
pans(like my honey cake, etc) and dairly cakes, like for birthdays, in
round layer ones. Of course, I seldom bake these days. but always loved
this pastry that I decided to try. Next time I may well use all almond
flour, but this is the first time I have used it, so hesitated to go the
shole way. I used Trader Joe's butter for the first time and found that
it has a wonderful old fashioned butter taste tht seems to be lacking in
some of the others Ihave been using.

I used Splenda rather thaen the liquid sweetener I have, because of the
ease of measurment and my unsureness of the bulking lack in the liquids.
I know some of you like those liquide, but I tend to use them in soft
stuff like pumpkin custard or in drinks. Not so sure about baking.

If you remember, last week I talked abu tusing Splenda in a recipe for
that middle European plum cake that is between a crust and a cake that I
had from my shul cookbook I edited, Kosher Catskill Cooking(now out of
print) tht had been submitted by an excellent baker, the late Hansi
Schlittner.

Well, I tried it today. It is not a comlicated recipe, but I made some
changes and I have some thoughts on, perhpas changing it a bit mor. As I
selldom bake now, and am not entertaining for the holiday, I indulged and
used pure butter rather than the optional margarine. As keeping carbs low
is for me, very important, not only did I use the splenda for all the
sugar, but I substituted almond flour for half the flour in the recipe. I
Have never baked with almond flour, so hesitated to substitute for all of
the flour. I also looked at some recipes in Nechama Cohen's book
En-Lite-end Kosher cooking and noticed that they used various mixed
flours, but did have some, either all purpose or whole wheat flour in most
of the recipes.

Hansi's directions call for spreading the dough on a greased cookie sheet.
I used a silicone sheet which I sprayed with oil spray. Kind of likea n
ice skating rink:-) I got a very thin, almost cookie like product of
heavenly taste, but wonder if sme edges to the pan, saa an 11X7
ppyrex or even 9X18 would have produced something a bit more like a cake,
rather than a giant, soft cookie with great taste. Unfortunately, I keep
tring to even out the edges of this and may well even it out completely if
I don't stop soon:-) The butter makes is absoutely delicious, so am not
sure if margarine and a parev cake would be as delightful.

Here is the recipe. I will give both the original and my changes.

Plum Cake
Source, Hansi Schlittner in Kosher Catskill Cooking
Servings-Highly individual:-)[eerhaps 8

Ingredients:
2-2 1/2 lbs plums(I used 2 1/4 and had left over)
1 5.8 sticks butter or margarine( I used butter)
1 1/2 C flour(I used 3/4 C flour and 3/4C almond flour-finely ground
almonds)
3/4 C sugar(I used 3/4 C Slenda measures like sugar)
3 large eggs

Beat ft with sugar well. Add eggs 1 at a timecontimue to beat util nice
and creamy. Add flour(s) slowly. Spread on buttered cookie sheet. Top
with sliced plums-8 to a plum(I ha smaller plums so did 5-6 slices per
plum. Bake in a 350F oven for 45 minutes.

Note: This cake uses what are often ccalled Italian prune-plums. They
have a reltively short fall season and are oval and freestone. I woudl
not try this with other plums, but it might make a delicious peach treat
or apple. the plums are, of course the traditional fruit.

Enjoy!in either version, but do try it dairy if possible as the taste is
heavenly!

Wendyl
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I probably won't make this as no one but me would eat it But I can
smell and taste it already! I can see the whipped cream and vanilla ice
cream on it

"W. Baker" wrote in message
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thanks, interesting on several levels, i am wondering if firm pears would
work, i think the almond and plumb would go well wiht each other, Lee
"W. Baker" wrote in message
...
Here is lots of prose describing what I did and the recipe I finally made
for this cake/cookie. It was sent to a Jewish food mail list, hence the
discussion about makign it with margarine. many observant households
never make dairy cakes as most festive meals have meat and having to keep
2 sets of baking tools and pans is expensive and space consuming. I solve
it by only making dairy cookies and making my non-dairy cakes in loaf
pans(like my honey cake, etc) and dairly cakes, like for birthdays, in
round layer ones. Of course, I seldom bake these days. but always loved
this pastry that I decided to try. Next time I may well use all almond
flour, but this is the first time I have used it, so hesitated to go the
shole way. I used Trader Joe's butter for the first time and found that
it has a wonderful old fashioned butter taste tht seems to be lacking in
some of the others Ihave been using.

I used Splenda rather thaen the liquid sweetener I have, because of the
ease of measurment and my unsureness of the bulking lack in the liquids.
I know some of you like those liquide, but I tend to use them in soft
stuff like pumpkin custard or in drinks. Not so sure about baking.

If you remember, last week I talked abu tusing Splenda in a recipe for
that middle European plum cake that is between a crust and a cake that I
had from my shul cookbook I edited, Kosher Catskill Cooking(now out of
print) tht had been submitted by an excellent baker, the late Hansi
Schlittner.

Well, I tried it today. It is not a comlicated recipe, but I made some
changes and I have some thoughts on, perhpas changing it a bit mor. As I
selldom bake now, and am not entertaining for the holiday, I indulged and
used pure butter rather than the optional margarine. As keeping carbs low
is for me, very important, not only did I use the splenda for all the
sugar, but I substituted almond flour for half the flour in the recipe. I
Have never baked with almond flour, so hesitated to substitute for all of
the flour. I also looked at some recipes in Nechama Cohen's book
En-Lite-end Kosher cooking and noticed that they used various mixed
flours, but did have some, either all purpose or whole wheat flour in most
of the recipes.

Hansi's directions call for spreading the dough on a greased cookie sheet.
I used a silicone sheet which I sprayed with oil spray. Kind of likea n
ice skating rink:-) I got a very thin, almost cookie like product of
heavenly taste, but wonder if sme edges to the pan, saa an 11X7
ppyrex or even 9X18 would have produced something a bit more like a cake,
rather than a giant, soft cookie with great taste. Unfortunately, I keep
tring to even out the edges of this and may well even it out completely if
I don't stop soon:-) The butter makes is absoutely delicious, so am not
sure if margarine and a parev cake would be as delightful.

Here is the recipe. I will give both the original and my changes.

Plum Cake
Source, Hansi Schlittner in Kosher Catskill Cooking
Servings-Highly individual:-)[eerhaps 8

Ingredients:
2-2 1/2 lbs plums(I used 2 1/4 and had left over)
1 5.8 sticks butter or margarine( I used butter)
1 1/2 C flour(I used 3/4 C flour and 3/4C almond flour-finely ground
almonds)
3/4 C sugar(I used 3/4 C Slenda measures like sugar)
3 large eggs

Beat ft with sugar well. Add eggs 1 at a timecontimue to beat util nice
and creamy. Add flour(s) slowly. Spread on buttered cookie sheet. Top
with sliced plums-8 to a plum(I ha smaller plums so did 5-6 slices per
plum. Bake in a 350F oven for 45 minutes.

Note: This cake uses what are often ccalled Italian prune-plums. They
have a reltively short fall season and are oval and freestone. I woudl
not try this with other plums, but it might make a delicious peach treat
or apple. the plums are, of course the traditional fruit.

Enjoy!in either version, but do try it dairy if possible as the taste is
heavenly!

Wendyl
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"W. Baker" wrote:

Here is lots of prose describing what I did and the recipe I finally made
for this cake/cookie. It was sent to a Jewish food mail list, hence the
discussion about makign it with margarine. many observant households
never make dairy cakes as most festive meals have meat and having to keep
2 sets of baking tools and pans is expensive and space consuming. I solve
it by only making dairy cookies and making my non-dairy cakes in loaf
pans(like my honey cake, etc) and dairly cakes, like for birthdays, in
round layer ones. Of course, I seldom bake these days. but always loved
this pastry that I decided to try. Next time I may well use all almond
flour, but this is the first time I have used it, so hesitated to go the
shole way. I used Trader Joe's butter for the first time and found that
it has a wonderful old fashioned butter taste tht seems to be lacking in
some of the others Ihave been using.

I used Splenda rather thaen the liquid sweetener I have, because of the
ease of measurment and my unsureness of the bulking lack in the liquids.
I know some of you like those liquide, but I tend to use them in soft
stuff like pumpkin custard or in drinks. Not so sure about baking.

If you remember, last week I talked abu tusing Splenda in a recipe for
that middle European plum cake that is between a crust and a cake that I
had from my shul cookbook I edited, Kosher Catskill Cooking(now out of
print) tht had been submitted by an excellent baker, the late Hansi
Schlittner.

Well, I tried it today. It is not a comlicated recipe, but I made some
changes and I have some thoughts on, perhpas changing it a bit mor. As I
selldom bake now, and am not entertaining for the holiday, I indulged and
used pure butter rather than the optional margarine. As keeping carbs low
is for me, very important, not only did I use the splenda for all the
sugar, but I substituted almond flour for half the flour in the recipe. I
Have never baked with almond flour, so hesitated to substitute for all of
the flour. I also looked at some recipes in Nechama Cohen's book
En-Lite-end Kosher cooking and noticed that they used various mixed
flours, but did have some, either all purpose or whole wheat flour in most
of the recipes.

Hansi's directions call for spreading the dough on a greased cookie sheet.
I used a silicone sheet which I sprayed with oil spray. Kind of likea n
ice skating rink:-) I got a very thin, almost cookie like product of
heavenly taste, but wonder if sme edges to the pan, saa an 11X7
ppyrex or even 9X18 would have produced something a bit more like a cake,
rather than a giant, soft cookie with great taste. Unfortunately, I keep
tring to even out the edges of this and may well even it out completely if
I don't stop soon:-) The butter makes is absoutely delicious, so am not
sure if margarine and a parev cake would be as delightful.

Here is the recipe. I will give both the original and my changes.

Plum Cake
Source, Hansi Schlittner in Kosher Catskill Cooking
Servings-Highly individual:-)[eerhaps 8

Ingredients:
2-2 1/2 lbs plums(I used 2 1/4 and had left over)
1 5.8 sticks butter or margarine( I used butter)
1 1/2 C flour(I used 3/4 C flour and 3/4C almond flour-finely ground
almonds)
3/4 C sugar(I used 3/4 C Slenda measures like sugar)
3 large eggs

Beat ft with sugar well. Add eggs 1 at a timecontimue to beat util nice
and creamy. Add flour(s) slowly. Spread on buttered cookie sheet. Top
with sliced plums-8 to a plum(I ha smaller plums so did 5-6 slices per
plum. Bake in a 350F oven for 45 minutes.

Note: This cake uses what are often ccalled Italian prune-plums. They
have a reltively short fall season and are oval and freestone. I woudl
not try this with other plums, but it might make a delicious peach treat
or apple. the plums are, of course the traditional fruit.

Enjoy!in either version, but do try it dairy if possible as the taste is
heavenly!


My mother used to make a plum cake like this with a basic white cake
base, prune plums, and a streusel topping. We sometimes substituted
peaches or nectarines.

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Storrmmee wrote:
: thanks, interesting on several levels, i am wondering if firm pears would
: work, i think the almond and plumb would go well wiht each other, Lee
Pears might be very nice. and Jan, I whink all that whipped cream and
icecream would be overkill. These babies wee so rich! I have 6 nice
sized pieces left. I figured I better put them awayof I would regret it
in the morning:-)

Wendy

: "W. Baker" wrote in message
: ...
: Here is lots of prose describing what I did and the recipe I finally made
: for this cake/cookie. It was sent to a Jewish food mail list, hence the
: discussion about makign it with margarine. many observant households
: never make dairy cakes as most festive meals have meat and having to keep
: 2 sets of baking tools and pans is expensive and space consuming. I solve
: it by only making dairy cookies and making my non-dairy cakes in loaf
: pans(like my honey cake, etc) and dairly cakes, like for birthdays, in
: round layer ones. Of course, I seldom bake these days. but always loved
: this pastry that I decided to try. Next time I may well use all almond
: flour, but this is the first time I have used it, so hesitated to go the
: shole way. I used Trader Joe's butter for the first time and found that
: it has a wonderful old fashioned butter taste tht seems to be lacking in
: some of the others Ihave been using.
:
: I used Splenda rather thaen the liquid sweetener I have, because of the
: ease of measurment and my unsureness of the bulking lack in the liquids.
: I know some of you like those liquide, but I tend to use them in soft
: stuff like pumpkin custard or in drinks. Not so sure about baking.
:
: If you remember, last week I talked abu tusing Splenda in a recipe for
: that middle European plum cake that is between a crust and a cake that I
: had from my shul cookbook I edited, Kosher Catskill Cooking(now out of
: print) tht had been submitted by an excellent baker, the late Hansi
: Schlittner.
:
: Well, I tried it today. It is not a comlicated recipe, but I made some
: changes and I have some thoughts on, perhpas changing it a bit mor. As I
: selldom bake now, and am not entertaining for the holiday, I indulged and
: used pure butter rather than the optional margarine. As keeping carbs low
: is for me, very important, not only did I use the splenda for all the
: sugar, but I substituted almond flour for half the flour in the recipe. I
: Have never baked with almond flour, so hesitated to substitute for all of
: the flour. I also looked at some recipes in Nechama Cohen's book
: En-Lite-end Kosher cooking and noticed that they used various mixed
: flours, but did have some, either all purpose or whole wheat flour in most
: of the recipes.
:
: Hansi's directions call for spreading the dough on a greased cookie sheet.
: I used a silicone sheet which I sprayed with oil spray. Kind of likea n
: ice skating rink:-) I got a very thin, almost cookie like product of
: heavenly taste, but wonder if sme edges to the pan, saa an 11X7
: ppyrex or even 9X18 would have produced something a bit more like a cake,
: rather than a giant, soft cookie with great taste. Unfortunately, I keep
: tring to even out the edges of this and may well even it out completely if
: I don't stop soon:-) The butter makes is absoutely delicious, so am not
: sure if margarine and a parev cake would be as delightful.
:
: Here is the recipe. I will give both the original and my changes.
:
: Plum Cake
: Source, Hansi Schlittner in Kosher Catskill Cooking
: Servings-Highly individual:-)[eerhaps 8
:
: Ingredients:
: 2-2 1/2 lbs plums(I used 2 1/4 and had left over)
: 1 5.8 sticks butter or margarine( I used butter)
: 1 1/2 C flour(I used 3/4 C flour and 3/4C almond flour-finely ground
: almonds)
: 3/4 C sugar(I used 3/4 C Slenda measures like sugar)
: 3 large eggs
:
: Beat ft with sugar well. Add eggs 1 at a timecontimue to beat util nice
: and creamy. Add flour(s) slowly. Spread on buttered cookie sheet. Top
: with sliced plums-8 to a plum(I ha smaller plums so did 5-6 slices per
: plum. Bake in a 350F oven for 45 minutes.
:
: Note: This cake uses what are often ccalled Italian prune-plums. They
: have a reltively short fall season and are oval and freestone. I woudl
: not try this with other plums, but it might make a delicious peach treat
: or apple. the plums are, of course the traditional fruit.
:
: Enjoy!in either version, but do try it dairy if possible as the taste is
: heavenly!
:
: Wendyl
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"W. Baker" wrote in message
...
Storrmmee wrote:
: thanks, interesting on several levels, i am wondering if firm pears
would
: work, i think the almond and plumb would go well wiht each other,
Lee
Pears might be very nice. and Jan, I whink all that whipped cream and
icecream would be overkill. These babies wee so rich! I have 6 nice
sized pieces left. I figured I better put them awayof I would regret
it
in the morning:-)


Wendy, I always find that ice cream helps with any over-rich dessert
YMMV lol.


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have you tried freezing it? might be worth a test? Lee
"W. Baker" wrote in message
...
Storrmmee wrote:
: thanks, interesting on several levels, i am wondering if firm pears
would
: work, i think the almond and plumb would go well wiht each other, Lee
Pears might be very nice. and Jan, I whink all that whipped cream and
icecream would be overkill. These babies wee so rich! I have 6 nice
sized pieces left. I figured I better put them awayof I would regret it
in the morning:-)

Wendy

: "W. Baker" wrote in message
: ...
: Here is lots of prose describing what I did and the recipe I finally
made
: for this cake/cookie. It was sent to a Jewish food mail list, hence
the
: discussion about makign it with margarine. many observant households
: never make dairy cakes as most festive meals have meat and having to
keep
: 2 sets of baking tools and pans is expensive and space consuming. I
solve
: it by only making dairy cookies and making my non-dairy cakes in loaf
: pans(like my honey cake, etc) and dairly cakes, like for birthdays, in
: round layer ones. Of course, I seldom bake these days. but always
loved
: this pastry that I decided to try. Next time I may well use all
almond
: flour, but this is the first time I have used it, so hesitated to go
the
: shole way. I used Trader Joe's butter for the first time and found
that
: it has a wonderful old fashioned butter taste tht seems to be lacking
in
: some of the others Ihave been using.
:
: I used Splenda rather thaen the liquid sweetener I have, because of
the
: ease of measurment and my unsureness of the bulking lack in the
liquids.
: I know some of you like those liquide, but I tend to use them in soft
: stuff like pumpkin custard or in drinks. Not so sure about baking.
:
: If you remember, last week I talked abu tusing Splenda in a recipe for
: that middle European plum cake that is between a crust and a cake that
I
: had from my shul cookbook I edited, Kosher Catskill Cooking(now out of
: print) tht had been submitted by an excellent baker, the late Hansi
: Schlittner.
:
: Well, I tried it today. It is not a comlicated recipe, but I made some
: changes and I have some thoughts on, perhpas changing it a bit mor. As
I
: selldom bake now, and am not entertaining for the holiday, I indulged
and
: used pure butter rather than the optional margarine. As keeping carbs
low
: is for me, very important, not only did I use the splenda for all the
: sugar, but I substituted almond flour for half the flour in the
recipe. I
: Have never baked with almond flour, so hesitated to substitute for all
of
: the flour. I also looked at some recipes in Nechama Cohen's book
: En-Lite-end Kosher cooking and noticed that they used various mixed
: flours, but did have some, either all purpose or whole wheat flour in
most
: of the recipes.
:
: Hansi's directions call for spreading the dough on a greased cookie
sheet.
: I used a silicone sheet which I sprayed with oil spray. Kind of likea
n
: ice skating rink:-) I got a very thin, almost cookie like product of
: heavenly taste, but wonder if sme edges to the pan, saa an 11X7
: ppyrex or even 9X18 would have produced something a bit more like a
cake,
: rather than a giant, soft cookie with great taste. Unfortunately, I
keep
: tring to even out the edges of this and may well even it out
completely if
: I don't stop soon:-) The butter makes is absoutely delicious, so am
not
: sure if margarine and a parev cake would be as delightful.
:
: Here is the recipe. I will give both the original and my changes.
:
: Plum Cake
: Source, Hansi Schlittner in Kosher Catskill Cooking
: Servings-Highly individual:-)[eerhaps 8
:
: Ingredients:
: 2-2 1/2 lbs plums(I used 2 1/4 and had left over)
: 1 5.8 sticks butter or margarine( I used butter)
: 1 1/2 C flour(I used 3/4 C flour and 3/4C almond flour-finely ground
: almonds)
: 3/4 C sugar(I used 3/4 C Slenda measures like sugar)
: 3 large eggs
:
: Beat ft with sugar well. Add eggs 1 at a timecontimue to beat util
nice
: and creamy. Add flour(s) slowly. Spread on buttered cookie sheet. Top
: with sliced plums-8 to a plum(I ha smaller plums so did 5-6 slices per
: plum. Bake in a 350F oven for 45 minutes.
:
: Note: This cake uses what are often ccalled Italian prune-plums. They
: have a reltively short fall season and are oval and freestone. I woudl
: not try this with other plums, but it might make a delicious peach
treat
: or apple. the plums are, of course the traditional fruit.
:
: Enjoy!in either version, but do try it dairy if possible as the taste
is
: heavenly!
:
: Wendyl
: __._,_.___
:




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Storrmmee wrote:
: have you tried freezing it? might be worth a test? Lee

I think it would freeze fine. Yu just remned me of when many here were
young and wonder if you rremember freezing Mily Way bars(for those not in
the US, a onderful candy bar with saramel, nuts, etc and chocolate
coated)? Anyone break a tooth on one? Always the danger of having
frozen treats in the house:-)

only had half of one of the piece this morning with my boiled egg
breafkast:-)

Wendy
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my grandfater would freeze those and 3 musketeers, and to this day they
taste strange to me if not frozen, lee
"W. Baker" wrote in message
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Storrmmee wrote:
: have you tried freezing it? might be worth a test? Lee

I think it would freeze fine. Yu just remned me of when many here were
young and wonder if you rremember freezing Mily Way bars(for those not in
the US, a onderful candy bar with saramel, nuts, etc and chocolate
coated)? Anyone break a tooth on one? Always the danger of having
frozen treats in the house:-)

only had half of one of the piece this morning with my boiled egg
breafkast:-)

Wendy





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