I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
or is familiar with this cookware?

On 6 May 2007 08:18:22 -0700, maestro > wrote:

>I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
>it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
>forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
>the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
>some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
>or is familiar with this cookware?

In order for a warranty to have value, that company or comopany
subsidiary must be around for the duration of the warranty. In most
cases today, that's questionable.

Interestingly, they no longer seem to be available through
cookswarehouse.com, for whom they were originally made and by whom
ythey were exclusively sold for years.

You could look at http://www.ameriwareprofessional.com/, or at the
manufacturer site http://www.vollrathco.com/.

Or you could read gardenweb.com:

"Ameriware cookware

Posted by maria67 (My Page)

I purchased this cookware (very pricey) 3 years ago at Fort Rucker AL
and I found it to be mediocre. The handles are very user unfriendly.
The bottom coating is nearly peeled off. The non-stick coating has to
be seasoned every week, and is too easily damaged. The only good thing
about this cookware is the even heat distribution. I would not buy it
again.

Follow-Up Postings:

* Posted by geoffshepherd

Interesting. The pieces they (Cook's Warehouse) are selling now under
the Pro-HG name are made by Vollrath and carry a 25-year warranty from
Vollrath. The interior non-stick is ceramic-titanium reinforced. The
exterior has some other kind of non-stick, but the bottoms are all
machined flat leaving an uncoated aluminum base. I bought a 12-piece
set + urethane utensils for $425 a week ago.

The handles and lids are typical of commercial cookware (Vollrath,
Wearever, etc) available at a restaurant supply. Indeed, Vollrath
cookware is available locally, and the pieces are very similar in
design, just different finish options/sizes and about the same price
as Cook's Warehouse show prices.

As non-sticks go, since finding out from Cook's Warehouse that even
the HG-Pro finish has plastic in it (unlike what the sales rep
claimed), I have my doubts as to ultimate longevity. The 25-year
warranty only covers defects, not wear-and-tear, so whether a loss in
the non-stick properties or peeling/chipping constitutes a defect is
up to the manufacturer (Vollrath in the case of HG-Pro). "

or http://www.cookingforengineers.com/f...pic.php?t=129:

"Do you need NSF certified kitchen equipment?
In general, it doesn't hurt to have tools bearing the NSF mark, but I
wouldn't use it as a deciding factor when purchasing gear for your
kitchen. Recently a salesman we saw at Costco pushing Cook's
Warehouse's Ameriware Professional cookware and claimed that the
Ameriware pans were "more durable and safer because they are
government certified for professional kitchens which is why Ameriware
can claim their cookware to be Professional". (While saying this, the
salesman flipped the pan over and showed the NSF mark etched into the
bottom of the aluminum pan.) The salesman then went on to use the
certification as one of the reasons why the pan's high price was
justifiable as professional cookware is expensive. (That last
statement is usually not true. Cookware designed for the professional
kitchen is often cheaper than those designed for the home because they
are replaced on at regular intervals. For example, Vollrath, a
reputable restaurant equipment manufacturer who happens to manufacture
Ameriware for Cook's Warehouse, makes a 12 in. non-stick aluminum pan
that can be bought from a restaurant supply store for $25 while the
comparable Ameriware pan was over $80 with the "show discount". Of
course, the Ameriware pan has a space age titanium-ceramic non-stick
surface... but no one has given me the opportunity to test a
traditional non-stick against the Ameriware non-stick, yet.)"

All in all, it looks like it's overpriced marketing of ordinary pans
you can get at any good restaurant supply store.

-- Larry

Thanks for the headsup, if peeling and cracking is included in the 25
year then it's an excellent buy
but I have never seen this offered before but since Costco is
selling it they will make good on problems but http://www.vollrathco.com/
seems quite vague
on it's Nonstick..not so on SS or Carbon, hmmm

On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 8:18:22 AM UTC-7, mystr0 wrote:
> I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
> it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
> forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
> the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
> some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
> or is familiar with this cookware?

In short, this cookware is crap, for so many reasons.

Trying to find a replacement for one that got damaged--all too easily--for a rented out guest home, I called the manufacturer in Wisconsin, who makes the product (and several other brands), then spoke with the rep who knows how all those products are made. The rep admitted that Ameriware is not among even among the middle of the road brands.

First, a cookware line that is all non-stick is a very bad sign. No one needs or should ever use non-stick for everything. Good quality 3+ ply stainless is easy to use, easy to clean up and fairly non-stick when used the right way. There are times, like high heat searing, that a non-stick is useful but not this low-end plastic stuff. One or two scan pans or ceramic fry pans is all you need for that purpose. You will never go back. You will save yourself the heartache of scrubbing and cleaning when you have quality cookware.

Second, the coating is toxic. The manufacturer confirmed that the chemical context is essentially old school, chemically like the brand Teflon. Poison! Never use plastic and never heat it. Discerning home chefs can taste the difference in food cooked in toxic past crap and clean inert steel.

Third, it's not durable. People that "love" their non-stick cookware are not experienced, serious cooks. The plastic cooking tools to avoid scratching the plastic costed cookware are toxic too.Look at the melted ends; you eat that crap. So toss it out.

Fourth, this brand in particular is not quality non-stick. The difference between this crap and stainless is 180 degrees. Food sticks to the pans unless kept to a simmer. And the coating wears off so easily!

Fifth, the overall quality of the pan is mediocre at best, not well constructed at all. Look at the handle. The injected steel is not even finished well. It's sloppy. The handle is not well constructed and it gets hot. The flimsy plastic sleeve melts and it's a hassle. If you must have a handle cover, make it silicone. The better pans are designed so you do not need a sleeve at all, they stay cool. The coating comes right off. Again. you eat that poison. And, the pan is not usable, even with the coating off and loads of oil.This is sold at fairs and road shows. Its made for the non-discerning cook who is clueless.

I can attest that this brand, doesn't wear well. Over the course of a fe weeks, the pan was more aggravating to use. The pan was overheated and improperly used, but not by a long shot. Still, the coating came completely off.

On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 9:20:02 AM UTC-7, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 6 May 2007 08:18:22 -0700, maestro > wrote:
>
> >I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
> >it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
> >forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
> >the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
> >some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
> >or is familiar with this cookware?
>
> In order for a warranty to have value, that company or comopany
> subsidiary must be around for the duration of the warranty. In most
> cases today, that's questionable.
>
> Interestingly, they no longer seem to be available through
> cookswarehouse.com, for whom they were originally made and by whom
> ythey were exclusively sold for years.
>
> You could look at http://www.ameriwareprofessional.com/, or at the
> manufacturer site http://www.vollrathco.com/.
>
> Or you could read gardenweb.com:
>
> "Ameriware cookware
>
> Posted by maria67 (My Page)
>
> I purchased this cookware (very pricey) 3 years ago at Fort Rucker AL
> and I found it to be mediocre. The handles are very user unfriendly.
> The bottom coating is nearly peeled off. The non-stick coating has to
> be seasoned every week, and is too easily damaged. The only good thing
> about this cookware is the even heat distribution. I would not buy it
> again.
>
> Follow-Up Postings:
>
> * Posted by geoffshepherd
>
> Interesting. The pieces they (Cook's Warehouse) are selling now under
> the Pro-HG name are made by Vollrath and carry a 25-year warranty from
> Vollrath. The interior non-stick is ceramic-titanium reinforced. The
> exterior has some other kind of non-stick, but the bottoms are all
> machined flat leaving an uncoated aluminum base. I bought a 12-piece
> set + urethane utensils for $425 a week ago.
>
> The handles and lids are typical of commercial cookware (Vollrath,
> Wearever, etc) available at a restaurant supply. Indeed, Vollrath
> cookware is available locally, and the pieces are very similar in
> design, just different finish options/sizes and about the same price
> as Cook's Warehouse show prices.
>
> As non-sticks go, since finding out from Cook's Warehouse that even
> the HG-Pro finish has plastic in it (unlike what the sales rep
> claimed), I have my doubts as to ultimate longevity. The 25-year
> warranty only covers defects, not wear-and-tear, so whether a loss in
> the non-stick properties or peeling/chipping constitutes a defect is
> up to the manufacturer (Vollrath in the case of HG-Pro). "
>
> or http://www.cookingforengineers.com/f...pic.php?t=129:
>
> "Do you need NSF certified kitchen equipment?
> In general, it doesn't hurt to have tools bearing the NSF mark, but I
> wouldn't use it as a deciding factor when purchasing gear for your
> kitchen. Recently a salesman we saw at Costco pushing Cook's
> Warehouse's Ameriware Professional cookware and claimed that the
> Ameriware pans were "more durable and safer because they are
> government certified for professional kitchens which is why Ameriware
> can claim their cookware to be Professional". (While saying this, the
> salesman flipped the pan over and showed the NSF mark etched into the
> bottom of the aluminum pan.) The salesman then went on to use the
> certification as one of the reasons why the pan's high price was
> justifiable as professional cookware is expensive. (That last
> statement is usually not true. Cookware designed for the professional
> kitchen is often cheaper than those designed for the home because they
> are replaced on at regular intervals. For example, Vollrath, a
> reputable restaurant equipment manufacturer who happens to manufacture
> Ameriware for Cook's Warehouse, makes a 12 in. non-stick aluminum pan
> that can be bought from a restaurant supply store for $25 while the
> comparable Ameriware pan was over $80 with the "show discount". Of
> course, the Ameriware pan has a space age titanium-ceramic non-stick
> surface... but no one has given me the opportunity to test a
> traditional non-stick against the Ameriware non-stick, yet.)"
>
> All in all, it looks like it's overpriced marketing of ordinary pans
> you can get at any good restaurant supply store.
>
> -- Larry

Yes Larry, so true. All god points. pass on this stuff! Even Volrath reps are not proud of this line. The company reps I talked to wanted to differentiate the Ameriware from the other lines they manufacture under their own label. And they do not carry any with the same composition becsue it's not good enough to even carry the Wearever line.

On Monday, May 7, 2007 at 7:01:17 PM UTC-7, mystr0 wrote:
> Thanks for the headsup, if peeling and cracking is included in the 25
> year then it's an excellent buy
> but I have never seen this offered before but since Costco is
> selling it they will make good on problems but http://www.vollrathco.com/
> seems quite vague
> on it's Nonstick..not so on SS or Carbon, hmmm

No, according to the rep, peeling and cracking would be blamed on the user for overheting it. Good luck with the warranty; usually the manufacturer gets out of it.

On the other hand I bought my all cld from Williams Sonoma. They were unsympathetic to my delaminated pan. But I spoke with the rep and they replaced it. $230 saved. Go withAll clad and buy as you cn if it's too costly. Save coupons up and get it from Bed Bath and Beyond.

On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 9:18:22 AM UTC-6, mystr0 wrote:
> I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
> it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
> forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
> the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
> some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
> or is familiar with this cookware?

On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 09:24:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

>On Sunday, May 6, 2007 at 9:18:22 AM UTC-6, mystr0 wrote:
>> I noticed Costco is now carrying (online) a line called Ameriware,
>> it's discription and 25 year warranty but also the fact that it's
>> forged in the US certainly got my attention especially after I read in
>> the WSJ that US steel companies which have survived are considered
>> some of the very best in the world for quality....has anyone here used
>> or is familiar with this cookware?


Never heard of it until now. Looks good in the demo. I'd like to see
some details, such as how thick the pans is. The web site leave much
to be desired.

You may want to ask for rec.food.cooking as this group is pretty much
dead these days.