.... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.

If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?

Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)

Definitely get an upper grill. It will almost double your cooking area and
will end up being your grill of choice for low and slows, baking, etc. Can't
say enough about my #7... Even baked bread in it last night and will try my
first pizza tonight...
~Bruce
"Matthew L. Martin" > wrote in message
...
> ... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
> If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
> patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
> What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>
> Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:09:53 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
>If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?

Definitely:
Upper bracket and grate (though you can use a cheap grate from one of
the Big Box stores, at least on the 7).
Lower bracket.
Kamado lump (they can stuff in a few boxes without increasing the
shipping cost)
Thermometer
Cart, even if you think you won't be moving it. Sometimes it's helpful
to turn the K against or into the wind.

Maybe:
Mushikamado grill
Meat hanger (I haven't used either of them.)
Gas insert, but keep in mind that it's really no more than a glorified
fire-starter; you can't use it for low and slow--or shouldn't, anyway,
for safety reasons.

Definetly Not:
Ash scraper. Use a shop vac to clean out ashes.
Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
the Kamado forum for an alternative.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:09:53 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
>If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?

Definitely:
Upper bracket and grate (though you can use a cheap grate from one of
the Big Box stores, at least on the 7).
Lower bracket.
Kamado lump (they can stuff in a few boxes without increasing the
shipping cost)
Thermometer
Cart, even if you think you won't be moving it. Sometimes it's helpful
to turn the K against or into the wind.

Maybe:
Mushikamado grill
Meat hanger (I haven't used either of them.)
Gas insert, but keep in mind that it's really no more than a glorified
fire-starter; you can't use it for low and slow--or shouldn't, anyway,
for safety reasons.

Definetly Not:
Ash scraper. Use a shop vac to clean out ashes.
Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
the Kamado forum for an alternative.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology

Matthew L. Martin wrote:

> ... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
> If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
> patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
> What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>
> Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)

Matthew,

You might also want to research primogrill.com. They have a Kamado
clone that looks exactly like a Kamado and has dealers that carry the
product. So you can look, decide, buy and cook the same day!!!!!

Go for the new cooker now though. The HDTV will be less next year. :-)

BBQ

Matthew L. Martin wrote:

> ... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
> If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
> patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
> What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>
> Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)

Matthew,

You might also want to research primogrill.com. They have a Kamado
clone that looks exactly like a Kamado and has dealers that carry the
product. So you can look, decide, buy and cook the same day!!!!!

Go for the new cooker now though. The HDTV will be less next year. :-)

BBQ

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:50:37 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:09:53 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:
>
>>... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>>
>>If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>>patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>>What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>
>Definitely:
>Upper bracket and grate (though you can use a cheap grate from one of
>the Big Box stores, at least on the 7).
>Lower bracket.
>Kamado lump (they can stuff in a few boxes without increasing the
>shipping cost)
>Thermometer
>Cart, even if you think you won't be moving it. Sometimes it's helpful
>to turn the K against or into the wind.
>
>Maybe:
>Mushikamado grill
>Meat hanger (I haven't used either of them.)
>Gas insert, but keep in mind that it's really no more than a glorified
>fire-starter; you can't use it for low and slow--or shouldn't, anyway,
>for safety reasons.
>
>Definetly Not:
>Ash scraper. Use a shop vac to clean out ashes.
>Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
>the Kamado forum for an alternative.

I agree with most of Kevin's suggestions, with following comments:

Bought a Kamado with most of the accessories. Haven't used the meat
hanger (too afraid that a hunk of meat will fall off the hanger once
it gets too tender...)

Have used the lumpsaver all the time until recently. Am finding the K
works fine (and sometimes cooks longer) without it. Just make sure
you aren't using a lot of really small charcoal pieces at once.

Not sure if Kevin is referring to the "Grill Scraper" when he said
"Ash Scraper" I use the grill scraper all the time and it works well
for cleaning the grill after a long low & slow cook.

I use a Bernzomatic propane torch to light my K. Uses very little
propane to get a small batch of the coals in the top center going,
then i close up the K with the lower and upper dampers open a bit
(this takes a little getting used to to gauge the amount to open them
for a 225°-250° burn) and I'm good to go. Takes about 45-60 seconds
with the torch to get the coals started. Lots easier and quicker than
any other method I've tried.




-Chef Juke
"EVERYbody Eats When They Come To MY House!"

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:50:37 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:09:53 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:
>
>>... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>>
>>If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>>patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>>What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>
>Definitely:
>Upper bracket and grate (though you can use a cheap grate from one of
>the Big Box stores, at least on the 7).
>Lower bracket.
>Kamado lump (they can stuff in a few boxes without increasing the
>shipping cost)
>Thermometer
>Cart, even if you think you won't be moving it. Sometimes it's helpful
>to turn the K against or into the wind.
>
>Maybe:
>Mushikamado grill
>Meat hanger (I haven't used either of them.)
>Gas insert, but keep in mind that it's really no more than a glorified
>fire-starter; you can't use it for low and slow--or shouldn't, anyway,
>for safety reasons.
>
>Definetly Not:
>Ash scraper. Use a shop vac to clean out ashes.
>Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
>the Kamado forum for an alternative.

I agree with most of Kevin's suggestions, with following comments:

Bought a Kamado with most of the accessories. Haven't used the meat
hanger (too afraid that a hunk of meat will fall off the hanger once
it gets too tender...)

Have used the lumpsaver all the time until recently. Am finding the K
works fine (and sometimes cooks longer) without it. Just make sure
you aren't using a lot of really small charcoal pieces at once.

Not sure if Kevin is referring to the "Grill Scraper" when he said
"Ash Scraper" I use the grill scraper all the time and it works well
for cleaning the grill after a long low & slow cook.

I use a Bernzomatic propane torch to light my K. Uses very little
propane to get a small batch of the coals in the top center going,
then i close up the K with the lower and upper dampers open a bit
(this takes a little getting used to to gauge the amount to open them
for a 225°-250° burn) and I'm good to go. Takes about 45-60 seconds
with the torch to get the coals started. Lots easier and quicker than
any other method I've tried.




-Chef Juke
"EVERYbody Eats When They Come To MY House!"

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:50:37 -0600, Kevin S. Wilson >
wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:09:53 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:
>
>>... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>>
>>If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>>patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>>What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>
>Definitely:
>Upper bracket and grate (though you can use a cheap grate from one of
>the Big Box stores, at least on the 7).
>Lower bracket.
>Kamado lump (they can stuff in a few boxes without increasing the
>shipping cost)
>Thermometer
>Cart, even if you think you won't be moving it. Sometimes it's helpful
>to turn the K against or into the wind.
>
>Maybe:
>Mushikamado grill
>Meat hanger (I haven't used either of them.)
>Gas insert, but keep in mind that it's really no more than a glorified
>fire-starter; you can't use it for low and slow--or shouldn't, anyway,
>for safety reasons.
>
>Definetly Not:
>Ash scraper. Use a shop vac to clean out ashes.
>Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
>the Kamado forum for an alternative.

I agree with most of Kevin's suggestions, with following comments:

Bought a Kamado with most of the accessories. Haven't used the meat
hanger (too afraid that a hunk of meat will fall off the hanger once
it gets too tender...)

Have used the lumpsaver all the time until recently. Am finding the K
works fine (and sometimes cooks longer) without it. Just make sure
you aren't using a lot of really small charcoal pieces at once.

Not sure if Kevin is referring to the "Grill Scraper" when he said
"Ash Scraper" I use the grill scraper all the time and it works well
for cleaning the grill after a long low & slow cook.

I use a Bernzomatic propane torch to light my K. Uses very little
propane to get a small batch of the coals in the top center going,
then i close up the K with the lower and upper dampers open a bit
(this takes a little getting used to to gauge the amount to open them
for a 225°-250° burn) and I'm good to go. Takes about 45-60 seconds
with the torch to get the coals started. Lots easier and quicker than
any other method I've tried.




-Chef Juke
"EVERYbody Eats When They Come To MY House!"

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:18:00 GMT, bbq > wrote:

>
>
>Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>
>> ... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>>
>> If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>> patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>> What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>>
>> Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)
>
>Matthew,
>
>You might also want to research primogrill.com. They have a Kamado
>clone that looks exactly like a Kamado and has dealers that carry the
>product. So you can look, decide, buy and cook the same day!!!!!
>
>Go for the new cooker now though. The HDTV will be less next year. :-)
>
>BBQ

I'm thinking of going clay also due to the sale. HDTV will be
cheaper with more channels in the next couple of years, get clay! I'm
leaning towards the upper/lower cooking thing, thermometer and gas.
No more chimney starter for me when I buy my clay. We just have to
decide if there is a feasable way to get it to our back yard. I
might have to go for a number 3 just to fit the thing in and have a
place for it.

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:18:00 GMT, bbq > wrote:

>
>
>Matthew L. Martin wrote:
>
>> ... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>>
>> If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>> patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>> What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>>
>> Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)
>
>Matthew,
>
>You might also want to research primogrill.com. They have a Kamado
>clone that looks exactly like a Kamado and has dealers that carry the
>product. So you can look, decide, buy and cook the same day!!!!!
>
>Go for the new cooker now though. The HDTV will be less next year. :-)
>
>BBQ

I'm thinking of going clay also due to the sale. HDTV will be
cheaper with more channels in the next couple of years, get clay! I'm
leaning towards the upper/lower cooking thing, thermometer and gas.
No more chimney starter for me when I buy my clay. We just have to
decide if there is a feasable way to get it to our back yard. I
might have to go for a number 3 just to fit the thing in and have a
place for it.

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:

> Definetly Not: ....
> Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
> the Kamado forum for an alternative.

I agree. Go to one of the big box stores and purchase on of the round woks
with holes meant for grilling. It fits nicely into the hole where the
ceramic charcoal grate would normally sit.

Kevin S. Wilson wrote:

> Definetly Not: ....
> Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
> the Kamado forum for an alternative.

I agree. Go to one of the big box stores and purchase on of the round woks
with holes meant for grilling. It fits nicely into the hole where the
ceramic charcoal grate would normally sit.

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:09:53 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> wrote:

>... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
>If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on my
>patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like excess:-).
>What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should I get?
>
>Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)

HDTV makes lousy Q.

Harry

In article >, "Dave Bugg"
<deebuggatcharterdotnet> wrote:

> Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
>
> > Definetly Not: ....
> > Lump Saver Plus. Doesn't work as advertised. Search on "Huk's Wok" in
> > the Kamado forum for an alternative.
>
> I agree. Go to one of the big box stores and purchase on of the round woks
> with holes meant for grilling. It fits nicely into the hole where the
> ceramic charcoal grate would normally sit.

My lumpsaver didn't last a year before the bottom burnt out. It will
help you burn the dust and dregs but thankfully that's not too terribly
often. If you sort your lump large pieces on bottom and smallest on
top there's seldom a problem. A wire (Festero Poker!) up through the
grates will clear any offending ash cloggage.

monroe(a good fire begins with black hands)

Monroe, of course... wrote:

>
> monroe(a good fire begins with black hands)

I just had my first experience with Kamado Extruded Coconut charcoal. I
never had my fingers turn as black and it _NEVER_ washed off so easily.
There are no fines, 16.5# takes very little space and it grills like the
fires of HELL!

Matthew (I think I like it)

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

"Matthew L. Martin" > wrote in message
...
> ... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
> If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on
> my patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like
> excess:-). What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should
> I get?
>
> Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)

Hi Matthew,

I use mine for grilling mostly, but my $0.02.

SS Bands and Grill
2 Side Tables (Ask if they'll include a towel holder)
Bottom Bracket
Pizza Stone
Turkey Setter
Ash Scraper (good poker)


Maybes
Upper Grate/Grill
Thermometer

HTH,

TomD

"Matthew L. Martin" > wrote in message
...
> ... by taking advantage of the Kamado End of Summer sale.
>
> If I decide to get a giant concrete cocktail shaker for cooking on
> my patio I will get either a #7 or #9 (nothing succeeds like
> excess:-). What accessories (other than a garage door opener) should
> I get?
>
> Matthew (If it isn't a K, it will probably be an HDTV)

Hi Matthew,

I use mine for grilling mostly, but my $0.02.

SS Bands and Grill
2 Side Tables (Ask if they'll include a towel holder)
Bottom Bracket
Pizza Stone
Turkey Setter
Ash Scraper (good poker)


Maybes
Upper Grate/Grill
Thermometer

HTH,

TomD

TomD wrote:


> 2 Side Tables (Ask if they'll include a towel holder)

Of course I read this _after_ starting the "If I go clay" thread.

Thanks, Tom and all the rest of you for your opinions. Nothing like
getting advice from people who have already gone through the learning
process.

Matthew

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

TomD wrote:


> 2 Side Tables (Ask if they'll include a towel holder)

Of course I read this _after_ starting the "If I go clay" thread.

Thanks, Tom and all the rest of you for your opinions. Nothing like
getting advice from people who have already gone through the learning
process.

Matthew

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:34:39 -0500, "TomD" >
wrote:

>I use mine for grilling mostly, but my $0.02.
>
>SS Bands and Grill
>2 Side Tables (Ask if they'll include a towel holder)
>Bottom Bracket

Absolutely necessary if you want to use a heat deflector. If I'm not
grilling, I have a heat deflector in place (a three-piece busted pizza
stone on the 7 and a deep-dish pizza pan filled with sand on the 5)

>Pizza Stone

I didn't see a pizza stone when I looked at the K accessories page a
couple days ago. They never seemed to have figured out how to ship
them in one piece, so maybe they quit trying.

>Turkey Setter
>Ash Scraper (good poker)
>
>
>Maybes
>Upper Grate/Grill
>Thermometer

These last two strike me as essential if you're going to do much low
and slow or cook for large groups. With the upper bracket, I've gotten
five BIG butts on my 7, or two big butts and a 12-pound brisket.

--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a university somewhere in Idaho
"When you can't do something completely impractical and intrinsically
useless *yourself*, you go get the Kibologists to do it for you." --J. Furr

>> Go to one of the big box stores and purchase on of the round woks
with holes meant for grilling.

Or get a 22" Weber Charcoal grate. Sits atop the downward sloping shelf which
would hold a perforated wok or lump saver.
Allows me to spread out the coals a bit more evenly for big cooks, or get a
nice separation between a hot zone and a cooler one when I don't want to use
the wok. I have aLumpsaver also but haven't used it much. Mine hasn't started
deforming but it doesn't save much lump...

- Definitely get a lower bracket and upper bracket and more grids. One odd
thing though is that on my hinged main grid, some of the bars bend when the
grill is hot: sort of like a bimetallic strip in a thermostat. The gap is big
enough for a hot dog weenie to fall through, and the grid bars straighten out
again as the grid cools down. Ground the ends of the offending bars down,
thinking they might be bending because of contact with the ceramic walls but
this didn't help. In an absolutely bizarre phone conversation I had with
Richard, he suggested banging the grid with a hammer OR replacing the grid with
a Weber cooking grid <HUH??> Kamado will not replace the deforming grids. and
several users on the Kamado forum have reported the same effect.

- I got a meat hanger and will probably use it this Thanksgiving.

- A Maverick remote thermometer is nice. I have one of those.

- Get a good Weber or generic charcoal chimney. I have the gas burner but have
only used it to light charcoal when I am in a big hurry. I don't trust the
burner... have had the flame puff out a couple of times while gas kept coming
thru...

- I have a large piece of cheap wall paneling that I use as a smooth surface
when rolling my K7 out of/into the garage. Helps it traverse the small
depression in the cement at the garage door. Also, if you're wheeling a K
along and one of the rather small wheels hits a small rock, it can rip a wheel
out. The smooth surface helps.

- some Simple Green and a Scotch Brite pad for tile cleaning...

- some of those coiled stainless steel pot scrubbers. They seem to work the
best for grid cleaning.

- leather fireplace gloves. The K can really blast you with heat.

>> Go to one of the big box stores and purchase on of the round woks
with holes meant for grilling.

Or get a 22" Weber Charcoal grate. Sits atop the downward sloping shelf which
would hold a perforated wok or lump saver.
Allows me to spread out the coals a bit more evenly for big cooks, or get a
nice separation between a hot zone and a cooler one when I don't want to use
the wok. I have aLumpsaver also but haven't used it much. Mine hasn't started
deforming but it doesn't save much lump...

- Definitely get a lower bracket and upper bracket and more grids. One odd
thing though is that on my hinged main grid, some of the bars bend when the
grill is hot: sort of like a bimetallic strip in a thermostat. The gap is big
enough for a hot dog weenie to fall through, and the grid bars straighten out
again as the grid cools down. Ground the ends of the offending bars down,
thinking they might be bending because of contact with the ceramic walls but
this didn't help. In an absolutely bizarre phone conversation I had with
Richard, he suggested banging the grid with a hammer OR replacing the grid with
a Weber cooking grid <HUH??> Kamado will not replace the deforming grids. and
several users on the Kamado forum have reported the same effect.

- I got a meat hanger and will probably use it this Thanksgiving.

- A Maverick remote thermometer is nice. I have one of those.

- Get a good Weber or generic charcoal chimney. I have the gas burner but have
only used it to light charcoal when I am in a big hurry. I don't trust the
burner... have had the flame puff out a couple of times while gas kept coming
thru...

- I have a large piece of cheap wall paneling that I use as a smooth surface
when rolling my K7 out of/into the garage. Helps it traverse the small
depression in the cement at the garage door. Also, if you're wheeling a K
along and one of the rather small wheels hits a small rock, it can rip a wheel
out. The smooth surface helps.

- some Simple Green and a Scotch Brite pad for tile cleaning...

- some of those coiled stainless steel pot scrubbers. They seem to work the
best for grid cleaning.

- leather fireplace gloves. The K can really blast you with heat.

Almost forgot - don't get the HDTV. What good will it be if you don't have
good eats to consume while watching?

Almost forgot - don't get the HDTV. What good will it be if you don't have
good eats to consume while watching?