Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables.

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Tom Walsh
 
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Hi all.

As the title states, just another lurker taking a step out of the shadows
with a question. Been to the FAQ area and after searching endless hours, or
as long as my 3 year old would let me, I couldn't find the answers to my
question.

I live in colorful Colorado and want to graduate to lump instead of
briquettes. After several excursions to several of our finer retail centers
(Wal-Mart, Target, Kmart,etc...), as well as several BBQ specialty stores
that seem to cater to gas grills only, I can't find lump charcoal. I live in
the Denver Metro area (Go Bronco's), and the best I've been able to find are
wood chips, or sometimes what they call chunks (what I think are nothing
more than bigger chips), at my local grocery store. The wife say's I can't
cut any more wood out of the plum tree in the front yard to cook with, seems
she took to liking the spring blooms on that tree, so as you can see I'm in
a bit of a pickle if I want to do more BBQ..

Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?


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Tom Walsh wrote:
> Hi all.
> Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a
> guy could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?


Hi Tom, have you tried any restaraunt supply houses? They often will sell
the the public and may well carry lump. Go OSH out there? Even if a store
doesnt have something in stock, they may order it for you, that's always
worth a try too.

Good luck.


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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:11:09 GMT, "Tom Walsh" >
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>Anybody out there know where a guy
>could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?


Go to a True Value hardware store and have them order it for you. It's
item #145607 in their catalog (though a google search also turns up
item #3145607).

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Tom Walsh wrote:

> I live in colorful Colorado and want to graduate to lump instead of
> briquettes. After several excursions to several of our finer retail centers
> (Wal-Mart, Target, Kmart,etc...), as well as several BBQ specialty stores
> that seem to cater to gas grills only, I can't find lump charcoal.



I'm a little surprised that Kmart was a bust. I thought most of them
carried the Martha Stewart brand (repackaged Cowboy lump). It's possible
they were just out, might be worth calling.

Also, Whole Foods stores in many places carriy lump (also Cowboy).

The Denver store is:

Whole Foods Market
Cherry Creek
2375 E. First Ave.
Denver, CO 80206
720.941.4100
720.941.8999 fax
Store hours: 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. seven days a week.


Worth a call to check.



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"Tom Walsh" > wrote in message
news:wA8rb.147216$e01.508548@attbi_s02...
> Hi all.
>
> As the title states, just another lurker taking a step out of the

shadows
> with a question. Been to the FAQ area and after searching endless hours,

or
> as long as my 3 year old would let me, I couldn't find the answers to my
> question.
>
> I live in colorful Colorado and want to graduate to lump instead of
> briquettes. After several excursions to several of our finer retail

centers
> (Wal-Mart, Target, Kmart,etc...), as well as several BBQ specialty stores
> that seem to cater to gas grills only, I can't find lump charcoal. I live

in
> the Denver Metro area (Go Bronco's), and the best I've been able to find

are
> wood chips, or sometimes what they call chunks (what I think are nothing
> more than bigger chips), at my local grocery store. The wife say's I

can't
> cut any more wood out of the plum tree in the front yard to cook with,

seems
> she took to liking the spring blooms on that tree, so as you can see I'm

in
> a bit of a pickle if I want to do more BBQ..
>
> Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
> could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?
>
>

Check for a wholesale grocer. In northern Ca. I have been buying 20# bags of
lump for $9 - $10. I talked to a commercial Q'er thursday, who buys from a
wholesale grocer. He gets 40# bags for $11.




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doyle wrote:
> Check for a wholesale grocer. In northern Ca. I have been buying 20#
> bags of lump for $9 - $10. I talked to a commercial Q'er thursday,
> who buys from a wholesale grocer. He gets 40# bags for $11.


Doyle, you anywhere near San Bruno? You can buy direct from Lazzari there
near the Cow Palace, it's about $13-14 for 40lbs. of hardwood lump, less for
the weed mesquite.
They're only open during business hours though, but you could call and ask
who carries it in your neighborhood. Just about anything is better than
Cowboy.


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Tom Walsh wrote:
> Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a
> guy could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?


You can get Royal Oak lump thru the Do it Best Hardware store chain.
There's one in Denver...
Alpine Lumber Company
11990 Grant St
Denver, CO 80233
1-303-451-8001
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says...

>and the best I've been able to find are wood chips, or sometimes
>what they call chunks (what I think are nothing >more than bigger
>chips),


>Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
>could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?


I stopped buying lump charcoal and started making my own, using the
receipe from
http://www.velvitoil.com/Charmake.htm It was a lot
easier than I imagined it would be.


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In ,
Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA > typed:
> says...
>
>> and the best I've been able to find are wood chips, or sometimes
>> what they call chunks (what I think are nothing >more than bigger
>> chips),

>
>> Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
>> could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?

>
> I stopped buying lump charcoal and started making my own, using the
> receipe from
http://www.velvitoil.com/Charmake.htm It was a lot
> easier than I imagined it would be.
>

You use charcoal in your pressure cooker?
>
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>> I just want to talk about Barbecue: bullies and Flamers go way!! |
>> |
>> Just Another Internet Wise Guy Macon, GA USA |
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In article >, " BOB"
> wrote:

> In ,
> Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA > typed:
> > says...
> >
> >> and the best I've been able to find are wood chips, or sometimes
> >> what they call chunks (what I think are nothing >more than bigger
> >> chips),

> >
> >> Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
> >> could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?

> >
> > I stopped buying lump charcoal and started making my own, using the
> > receipe from
http://www.velvitoil.com/Charmake.htm It was a lot
> > easier than I imagined it would be.
> >

> You use charcoal in your pressure cooker?
> >

He no doubt uses a 55 gal barrel rigged with 45 thermocouples attached
and O2, VOC,humidity,opacity and CO2 monitors and computerized vent
flaps on the thing all routed to his computer,logging 1 minute data
points. The chainsaw he cut the trees with has an RS232 port so his
'puter can log engine revs, tooth wear and fuel and chain oil
flowrates. I'm sure it's all so wonderful it'd five ya a boner....

monroe(you can buy a lot of lump for $4K)


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"Monroe, of course..." > wrote > > >
> He no doubt uses a 55 gal barrel rigged with 45 thermocouples attached
> and O2, VOC,humidity,opacity and CO2 monitors and computerized vent
> flaps on the thing all routed to his computer,logging 1 minute data
> points. The chainsaw he cut the trees with has an RS232 port so his
> 'puter can log engine revs, tooth wear and fuel and chain oil
> flowrates. I'm sure it's all so wonderful it'd five ya a boner....
>



Uh.....whazzat?

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Monroe, of course... > typed:
> In article >, " BOB"
> > wrote:
>
>> In ,
>> Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA > typed:
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> and the best I've been able to find are wood chips, or sometimes
>>>> what they call chunks (what I think are nothing >more than bigger
>>>> chips),
>>>
>>>> Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
>>>> could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?
>>>
>>> I stopped buying lump charcoal and started making my own, using the
>>> receipe from
http://www.velvitoil.com/Charmake.htm It was a lot
>>> easier than I imagined it would be.
>>>

>> You use charcoal in your pressure cooker?
>>>

> He no doubt uses a 55 gal barrel rigged with 45 thermocouples attached
> and O2, VOC,humidity,opacity and CO2 monitors and computerized vent
> flaps on the thing all routed to his computer,logging 1 minute data
> points. The chainsaw he cut the trees with has an RS232 port so his
> 'puter can log engine revs, tooth wear and fuel and chain oil
> flowrates. I'm sure it's all so wonderful it'd five ya a boner....
>
> monroe(you can buy a lot of lump for $4K)


That's what I thought. It's so much simpler than just smokin' 'em in the K,
too.
Wasn't simplicity the reason that the idiot wanted to use the pressure cooker in
the first place?

BOB Confused


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" BOB" > wrote:
> In ,
> Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA >
> typed:
>
> > I stopped buying lump charcoal and started making my own, using the
> > receipe from http://www.velvitoil.com/Charmake.htm It was a lot
> > easier than I imagined it would be.
> >

> You use charcoal in your pressure cooker?
> >

LMFAO

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"Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA" wrote:

> says...
> >Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
> >could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?

>
> I stopped buying lump charcoal and started making my own, using the
> receipe from
http://www.velvitoil.com/Charmake.htm It was a lot
> easier than I imagined it would be.


Well, I'm glad I waited this one out a bit. Y'all are talking about lump
charcoal and not bituminous-type coal? That last one just didn't sound
too tasty.
Edrena





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says...
>
>"Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA" wrote:
>
>>
says...
>
>> >Anyway, back to my question........Anybody out there know where a guy
>> >could find lump coal in the Denver metro area?

>>
>> I stopped buying lump charcoal and started making my own, using the
>> recipe from
http://www.velvitoil.com/Charmake.htm It was a lot
>> easier than I imagined it would be.

>
>Well, I'm glad I waited this one out a bit. Y'all are talking about lump
>charcoal and not bituminous-type coal? That last one just didn't sound
>too tasty.


Just for fun I once used my charcoal maker to turn some coal into coke
(the coal wasn't easy to find in Georgia!) and used it to barbecue some
chicken. It didn't have any noticeable taste at all - I might as well
have used the electric element with no wood chips. It did last a very
long time, though, so maybe a mix of coke and charcoal might be worth
trying for those of you in coal country.

(Ignore the insults from those who aren't interested in talking about
barbecue. I have killfiled them all and don't see what they post.
I advise that you do the same.)


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"Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA" >
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> I advise that you do the same.


Good advice is worth following. But you're not!

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On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 04:43:00 +0000, "Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA"
> wrote:

>(Ignore the insults from those who aren't interested in talking about
>barbecue. I have killfiled them all and don't see what they post.


Liar.

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Gee fellas

Didn't mean to start another arguement........Honest. Was just trying to
find out if anybody knew where to get lump coal out my way.

If'n yer curious.....did find some at my regular grocery store today.
Place didn't have it all summer and now it shows up. Well anyway, got my
meat setting in a nice rub overnight and gonna spend a nice quiet Monday
putting lights on the house, whilst (did I spell that right?) I savor the
aroma coming out of the smoker.

DANG! I love Christmas.....

Thanks again

Tom


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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:53:20 +0000, "Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA"
> wrote:

>
says...
>>
>>Gee fellas
>>
>> Didn't mean to start another arguement........Honest. Was just trying to
>>find out if anybody knew where to get lump coal out my way.

>
>Don't let it worry y'all. There are a bunch of ignorant doofuses
>here who keep cluelessly posting insults at me because they are
>too dim to realize that I have killfiled them and dosn't see the
>posts.
>

Insults? Do these sound familiar? They should; you wrote 'em.

>>Message-ID: >
>>Come on down here and say that to our face, you hoser *******, eh?
>>Message-ID: >
>>Shut up, Pinko.
>>Message-ID: >
>>You stupid moron. Please kill yurself before you breed.


How about a death threat?

>>Message-ID: >
>>Hi! I am 'Another Wise Guy - Macon, GA USA' and I am here to say that
>>I have had it up to here with you jew-hating racists. Why don't you stick
>>to your own newsgroups instead of filling every newsgroup with your shit?
>>Go **** yourself, then eat shit and die.
>>Or you can visit Macon and I will kill you myself.

>
>>Message-ID: >
>>What kind of rig do you use?
>>
>>Modified WSM. I have it instrumented to measure temperature at several
>>points (inside the meat, outside the meat, above the fire, in the middle
>>of the fire humidity, opacity (smoke density), and pan water level.
>>I have a computer that controls motorized dampers on the top, a fan
>>on the bottom, auto refill of the pan, and a light water mister that
>>sprays directly on the fire. I also have an electric element, but it
>>usually stays turned off.


Got those pictures posted yet?


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Holy cow......

Thanks for all of the suggestions. Think I'll try to talk the boss into
going on a lump excursion with me since my team has a bye week....(darn
Broncos)..., of course that's if it's okay with the 3 year old. She may
have different plans for us today.

Again thanks for the help.


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Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
> Liar.


Whiner.

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Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
>>Despite the behavior of a tiny minority here, mosty of us want to
>>talk about barbecue without wading through a bunch of childish
>>name calling.

>
>
> <sigh>


Ya, you need to correct him and let him know its more than a tiny
minority thats spewing crap.

> That's you, hypocrite. What were you saying about "childish insults"?


Ya, he's guilty of lowering to your level so that you may better comprehend.

> Insults plus a bonus death threat. You again.


LOL. Other southernerns here have said the same thing and seems it was
acceptable. Talk about hypocrite.

> Liar.


Whiner.

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Jack Curry wrote:

> Oh yeah? You think that's sumthin, Monroe? I did all the stuff you did in
> your post *and* I installed a high definition infrared video camera in my
> Kamado dome, so I can actually watch my meat every minute of its cook time
> without ever even opening the dome or getting out of my fatass chair. And
> I'm getting a heads up display for both my TV and my computer so I can watch
> the meat and football and email all at the same time.


Did you install a home improvement style all stainless self cleaning
bathroom with widescreen TV and reclining toilet with foot rest?



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