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I've recently taken up bread baking, and I'd love to find some good
recipe books, specifically ones that describe either French bread or
"batard" crusty loaf type things. Can anyone recommend a good one?

Thanks!

LM


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I've recently taken up bread baking, and I'd love to find some good
recipe books, specifically ones that describe either French bread or
"batard" crusty loaf type things. Can anyone recommend a good one?

Thanks!

LM


Go to:
http://planeguy.mine.nu/bread/faq_abr.php#89

These are the FAQs, a work in progress, for alt.bread.recipes. There is a
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HTH
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Thanks!

LM


Go to:
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is a
booklist.
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Thanks! Sorry - I'm usually more scrupulous about checking FAQs.

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Subject: Good books about bread baking?
Date: 12 Mar 2005 12:09:35 -0800

I've recently taken up bread baking, and I'd love to find some good
recipe books, specifically ones that describe either French bread or
"batard" crusty loaf type things. Can anyone recommend a good one?



We just moved to a new house after 16 years in our old place. This
gave me a chance to round up my baking books into one place and do
a bibliography.

Among the titles below, I think you'll find several books which will
give you the information which you seek. A good place to start
might be Joe Ortiz' book "The Village Baker" which provides both
recipes and techniques.


A List of Books about Bread and Baking
--------------------------------------

America's Bread Book
Gubser, Mary
Quill / William Morrow
1985
0-688-11608-6

The Art of Fine Baking
Peck, Paula
Simon & Shuster
1961
0-67120-611-7

Artisan Baking across America
Glezer, Maggie
Artisan
2000
1-57965-117-8

Baba á Louis Bakery Bread Book
McLure, John
Chelsea Green
1993
0-9636892-0-7

Baglemania - The 'Hole' Story
Berman, Connie & Suzanne Munshower
HP Books
1987
0-89586-624-2

Bake Your Own Bread
Dworkin, Floss & Stan
Signet
1973

The Baker's Companion
King Arthur Flour
Countryman Press
2003
0-88150-581-1

The Baker's Manual
Amendola, Joseph & Nicole Rees
John Wiley & Sons
2003
0-471-40525-6

Baking Bread: Old and New Traditions
Hensperger, Beth
Chronicle Books
1992
0-8118-0228-0

Baking Bread: Recipes from Around the World
Ellison, Audrey
Quintet
1995
0-7858-0489-7

Beard on Bread
Beard, James
Alfred A. Knopf
1981
0-394-47345-0

Beautiful Breads
Morris Cookbooks
SchoolMate
2002

The Book of Bread
Assire, Jerome
Flammarion
1996
2-08013-625-9

Bread Machine Recipes
Publications International
Publications International
1999
0-7853-3865-9

Bread Winners
London, Mel
Rodale Press
1979
0-87857-269-4

Breadcraft
Schafer, Charles & Violet
Yerba Buena Press
1974
0-912738-04-9

Breads of the Southwest Hensperger, Beth
Chronicle Books
1997
0-8118-0973-0

Celebration Breads
Oppenheimer, Betsy
Simon & Schuster
2003
0-7432-2483-3

Classic Essential Breads and Rolls
Könemann
Könemann
1999
3-8290-1585-2

The Complete Bread Cookbook
Kaufman, Ted & Jean
Gramercy / Crown
1969

Cookbook of Breads
Editors of Sunset Magazine
Lane Books
1966

Cooking with Whole Grains
Orton, Mildred Ellen
Farrar, Strauss & Giroux
1971
0-3745-0936-0

Decorative Dough Craft
Langfeld, Lynne
Sterling Publishing
1996
0-8069-9739-7

Easy Baking plus Pasta
Burns, Claudia & Tom Lacalamita
Cookbook Resource USA
1992

English Bread and Yeast Cookery
David, Elizabeth
Biscuit Books
1980
0-9643600-0-4

Farm Journal's Homemade Bread (1969 edition)
Nichols, Nell B., ed.
Doubleday & Co.
1969

Farm Journal's Homemade Bread (1985 edition)
Miller, Alice Joy, ed.
Galahad Books
1985
0-88365-875-5

Favorite Breads from Rose Lane Farm
Roberts. Ada Lou
Hearthside Press
1960

Focaccia - Simple Breads from the Italian Oven
Field, Carol
Chronicle Books
1994
0-8116-0604-9

The Food Processor Bread Book
Editors of Consumers Guide
Publications International
1980
0-671-25138-4

Great Breads
Shulman, Martha Rose
Chapters Publishing
1995
1-881527-61-1

A Guide to Good Cooking with Five Roses Flour
Brodie, Jean & Pauline Harvey
Lake of the Woods
1954

Homemade Breads
Home Cooking Library
Modern Publishing
1985
0-87449-005-7

Larissa's Bread Book
Johnson-Coleman, Lorraine
Rutledge Hill Press
2001
1-55853-845-3

Laurel's Kitchen Bread Book
Robertson, Laurel
Random House
1984
0-394-53700-9

Natural Baking the Old-Fashioned Way
Pelton, Robert W.
A.S.Barnes & Co.
1973
0-498-01250-6

New Complete Book of Breads
Clayton, Bernard
Simon & Schuster
1987
0-671-60222-5

Our Daily Bread
Standard, Stella
Funk & Wagnalls
1970

Pita the Great
Habeeb, Virginia T.
Workman Press
1986
0-89480-039-6

Prairie Home Breads
Fertig, Judith M.
Harvard Commom Press
2001
1-55832-172-1

Secrets of a Jewish Baker
Greenstein, George
The Crossing Press
1993
0-89594-631-9

Sourdough Jack's Cookery & Other Things
Mabee, Jack
Osborn / Woods
1970

The Tassajara Bread Book
Brown, Edward Espe
Shambala
1970
0-87773-025-3

Uncle John's Original Bread Book
Braué, John Rahn
Exposition-Banner
1981
0-682-46876-2

Understanding Baking
Amendola, Joseph & Nicole Rees
John Wiley & Sons
2003
0-471-40546-9

Uprisings: The Whole Grain Bakers' Book
Whole Grain Educational Assn.
Uprisings Pub. Co.
1983
0-9611600-0-4

The Village Baker
Ortiz, Joe
Ten Speed Press
1993
0-89815-489-8

What You Knead
Esposito, Mary Ann
William Morrow
1997
0-688-15010-1

The World Encyclopedia of Bread and Break Making
Ingram, Christine & Jennie Shapter
Hermes House
2002
1-84309-141-0

A World of Breads
Casella, Dolores
David White Co.
1966

Yesterday's Bread
Lalli, Carole
Harper Perennial
1999
0-06-095314-4



Cheers,
The Old Bear

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Wow! Thanks for all the books. I'm off to the bookstore.

LM (just baked a sweet egg bread with dried cranberries, sprinkled with
almonds - smells wonderful!)


The Old Bear wrote:
writes:

From:

Newsgroups: rec.food.baking
Subject: Good books about bread baking?
Date: 12 Mar 2005 12:09:35 -0800

I've recently taken up bread baking, and I'd love to find some good
recipe books, specifically ones that describe either French bread or
"batard" crusty loaf type things. Can anyone recommend a good one?



We just moved to a new house after 16 years in our old place. This
gave me a chance to round up my baking books into one place and do
a bibliography.

Among the titles below, I think you'll find several books which will
give you the information which you seek. A good place to start
might be Joe Ortiz' book "The Village Baker" which provides both
recipes and techniques.


A List of Books about Bread and Baking
--------------------------------------

America's Bread Book
Gubser, Mary
Quill / William Morrow
1985
0-688-11608-6

The Art of Fine Baking
Peck, Paula
Simon & Shuster
1961
0-67120-611-7

Artisan Baking across America
Glezer, Maggie
Artisan
2000
1-57965-117-8

Baba =E1 Louis Bakery Bread Book
McLure, John
Chelsea Green
1993
0-9636892-0-7

Baglemania - The 'Hole' Story
Berman, Connie & Suzanne Munshower
HP Books
1987
0-89586-624-2

Bake Your Own Bread
Dworkin, Floss & Stan
Signet
1973

The Baker's Companion
King Arthur Flour
Countryman Press
2003
0-88150-581-1

The Baker's Manual
Amendola, Joseph & Nicole Rees
John Wiley & Sons
2003
0-471-40525-6

Baking Bread: Old and New Traditions
Hensperger, Beth
Chronicle Books
1992
0-8118-0228-0

Baking Bread: Recipes from Around the World
Ellison, Audrey
Quintet
1995
0-7858-0489-7

Beard on Bread
Beard, James
Alfred A. Knopf
1981
0-394-47345-0

Beautiful Breads
Morris Cookbooks
SchoolMate
2002

The Book of Bread
Assire, Jerome
Flammarion
1996
2-08013-625-9

Bread Machine Recipes
Publications International
Publications International
1999
0-7853-3865-9

Bread Winners
London, Mel
Rodale Press
1979
0-87857-269-4

Breadcraft
Schafer, Charles & Violet
Yerba Buena Press
1974
0-912738-04-9

Breads of the Southwest Hensperger, Beth
Chronicle Books
1997
0-8118-0973-0

Celebration Breads
Oppenheimer, Betsy
Simon & Schuster
2003
0-7432-2483-3

Classic Essential Breads and Rolls
K=F6nemann
K=F6nemann
1999
3-8290-1585-2

The Complete Bread Cookbook
Kaufman, Ted & Jean
Gramercy / Crown
1969

Cookbook of Breads
Editors of Sunset Magazine
Lane Books
1966

Cooking with Whole Grains
Orton, Mildred Ellen
Farrar, Strauss & Giroux
1971
0-3745-0936-0

Decorative Dough Craft
Langfeld, Lynne
Sterling Publishing
1996
0-8069-9739-7

Easy Baking plus Pasta
Burns, Claudia & Tom Lacalamita
Cookbook Resource USA
1992

English Bread and Yeast Cookery
David, Elizabeth
Biscuit Books
1980
0-9643600-0-4

Farm Journal's Homemade Bread (1969 edition)
Nichols, Nell B., ed.
Doubleday & Co.
1969

Farm Journal's Homemade Bread (1985 edition)
Miller, Alice Joy, ed.
Galahad Books
1985
0-88365-875-5

Favorite Breads from Rose Lane Farm
Roberts. Ada Lou
Hearthside Press
1960

Focaccia - Simple Breads from the Italian Oven
Field, Carol
Chronicle Books
1994
0-8116-0604-9

The Food Processor Bread Book
Editors of Consumers Guide
Publications International
1980
0-671-25138-4

Great Breads
Shulman, Martha Rose
Chapters Publishing
1995
1-881527-61-1

A Guide to Good Cooking with Five Roses Flour
Brodie, Jean & Pauline Harvey
Lake of the Woods
1954

Homemade Breads
Home Cooking Library
Modern Publishing
1985
0-87449-005-7

Larissa's Bread Book
Johnson-Coleman, Lorraine
Rutledge Hill Press
2001
1-55853-845-3

Laurel's Kitchen Bread Book
Robertson, Laurel
Random House
1984
0-394-53700-9

Natural Baking the Old-Fashioned Way
Pelton, Robert W.
A.S.Barnes & Co.
1973
0-498-01250-6

New Complete Book of Breads
Clayton, Bernard
Simon & Schuster
1987
0-671-60222-5

Our Daily Bread
Standard, Stella
Funk & Wagnalls
1970

Pita the Great
Habeeb, Virginia T.
Workman Press
1986
0-89480-039-6

Prairie Home Breads
Fertig, Judith M.
Harvard Commom Press
2001
1-55832-172-1

Secrets of a Jewish Baker
Greenstein, George
The Crossing Press
1993
0-89594-631-9

Sourdough Jack's Cookery & Other Things
Mabee, Jack
Osborn / Woods
1970

The Tassajara Bread Book
Brown, Edward Espe
Shambala
1970
0-87773-025-3

Uncle John's Original Bread Book
Brau=E9, John Rahn
Exposition-Banner
1981
0-682-46876-2

Understanding Baking
Amendola, Joseph & Nicole Rees
John Wiley & Sons
2003
0-471-40546-9

Uprisings: The Whole Grain Bakers' Book
Whole Grain Educational Assn.
Uprisings Pub. Co.
1983
0-9611600-0-4

The Village Baker
Ortiz, Joe
Ten Speed Press
1993
0-89815-489-8

What You Knead
Esposito, Mary Ann
William Morrow
1997
0-688-15010-1

The World Encyclopedia of Bread and Break Making
Ingram, Christine & Jennie Shapter
Hermes House
2002
1-84309-141-0

A World of Breads
Casella, Dolores
David White Co.
1966

Yesterday's Bread
Lalli, Carole
Harper Perennial
1999
0-06-095314-4
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Cheers,
The Old Bear


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I've recently taken up bread baking, and I'd love to find some good
recipe books, specifically ones that describe either French bread or
"batard" crusty loaf type things. Can anyone recommend a good one?

Thanks!

LM

There are techniques you will need to learn about to get to a good French
bread. There are two books that will give you all the information about how
the ingredients and technique work together to make bread. They are "The
Bread Bakers Apprentice" by Peter Reinhart and "Bread: A Baker's Book of
Technique and Recipes" by Jeffrey Hammelman. The recipes in both books
are very good and very well explained. I'd recommend getting one or both of
the books.

Come on over to alt.bread.recipes--we'd enjoy your company.
Janet


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Bread Baker's Apprentice is my favorite.

I've got quite a few reviews over at:

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/modules/...p?storytopic=2

More reviews coming soon.

-F

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I've recently taken up bread baking, and I'd love to find some
good recipe books, specifically ones that describe either French
bread or "batard" crusty loaf type things. Can anyone recommend a
good one?

Thanks!

LM

There are techniques you will need to learn about to get to a good
French bread. There are two books that will give you all the
information about how the ingredients and technique work together to
make bread. They are "The Bread Bakers Apprentice" by Peter
Reinhart and "Bread: A Baker's Book of Technique and Recipes" by
Jeffrey Hammelman. The recipes in both books are very good and
very well explained. I'd recommend getting one or both of the
books.

Come on over to alt.bread.recipes--we'd enjoy your company.
Janet




from http://www.robinhood.ca/
They have a nice bread tips and bread recipe selection.

Chunky Cheese Bread

If you’re a cheese lover, then this should be the next bread you bake. It
travels well, which means it’s perfect for picnics. It makes the flavour
of bacon and tomato sandwiches dance. And cut into thick slices, it
grills to perfection on your barbecue. Why not serve it instead of
hamburger buns at your next get-together?


Ingredients

1 tsp sugar 5 mL
1 1/2 cups water, warm 375 mL
1 envelope (8 g) active dry yeast (2 1/4 tsp/11 mL) 1 envelope
1/3 cup oil 75 mL
1 tsp salt 5 mL
1 tsp Tabasco sauce 5 mL
1 egg, beaten 1
1/2 cup Parmesan cheese, grated 125 mL
4 1/4 cups ROBIN HOOD Best For Bread Homestyle White Flour 1050 mL
1 1/2 cups cheddar cheese, cubed 375 mL


Preparation

DISSOLVE sugar in warm water in large bowl. Sprinkle in yeast. Let stand
10 minutes, then stir well.

BEAT IN oil, salt, Tabasco and egg until smoothly blended. Add Parmesan
cheese.

STIR IN 2 cups (500 mL) Robin Hood Best For Bread Homestyle White Flour.
Beat well. Add more flour until mixture becomes too stiff to stir and
cleans sides of bowl. Turn out onto lightly floured board.

KNEAD dough, adding more flour as necessary to make a soft dough.
Continue kneading until dough is smooth, elastic and no longer sticky
(about 10 minutes).

PLACE in lightly greased bowl. Turn dough to grease top. Cover with
greased waxed paper and tea towel.

LET RISE in warm place (75°-85°F/24°-29°C) until doubled (45-60 minutes).

PUNCH DOWN. Turn out onto lightly floured board. Knead in the cheddar
cheese cubes until well distributed. Divide into 2 equal portions.

SHAPE each portion into a loaf. Place seam side down in 2 well greased 8
1/2" x 4 1/2" x 2 3/4" (1.5 L ) loaf pans. Cover with tea towel.

LET RISE in warm place until dough rises 1 1/2" (3 cm) above top of pan
in centre and corners are filled (45-60 minutes).

BAKE at 375°F/190°C on lower oven rack for 30 to 35 minutes. Remove from
pans immediately and cool on wire racks

QUICK NOTE:

This recipe makes 2 loaves. Try some of the following for variety:

Mini Cheese Loaves: Prepare as above, dividing dough into 6 portions.
Shape and bake in 5" x 2 1/2" x 2" (13 cm x 6 cm x 5 cm) loaf pans.
Reduce rising and baking time by approximately 10 minutes.

Mix in 1/2 lb (250 g) cooked and chopped bacon or ham with the cheese.
Add chopped green onions if desired.

NOTE: Grease pans very well with shortening as cheese tends to stick when
it melts.


--
No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl
Continuing to be Manitoban


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Hi --

Can someone please explain why a bread dough would call for a small
amount of milk powder, and what the consequences would be for omitting
it? If milk isn't an option, what might one use instead for a similar
result? Or do you just have to live without a certain texture or other
end result?

--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
like me to reply.
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