"Why would anyone want to add 50ppm SO2 to their wine?"

I don't know, maybe because that is the right level. Someone who
thinks SO2 gives you a headache is a moron. They don't know their ass
from their elbow.


On Jan 18, 8:43*pm, wrote:
> On Jan 17, 6:14*pm, Wildbilly > wrote:> In article
> > >,
>
> > wrote:
> > > I just use 1/4 tsp of Potassium Metabisulfate per 5 gals of wine for
> > > approx. 50ppm of SO2. Seems to work fine.
>
> > I'm glad it works for you, but can you define "fine"? I have never seen
> > a commercial winery add potassium metabisulfate powder directly to wine
> > (grapes, yes; wine, no). It is always hydrated first. Maybe they are all
> > just dumb.
>
> "I have never seen
> a commercial winery add potassium metabisulfate powder directly to
> wine
> (grapes, yes; wine, no). It is always hydrated first. Maybe they are
> all
> just dumb. "
>
> Maybe they are. I know there is oxygen dissolved in water and I also
> know the amountr can vary. If you make a SO2 solution some of that SO2
> can bind with the SO2 in the water and become less effective. By
> putting the SO2 in the bottom of the carboy before I rack and then
> slowly swirl the SO2 into the wine , whatever oxygen that binds with
> the SO2 is oxygen in my wine, not in the water I used to make the
> solution before I add it to the wine.
>
> *> Why would anyone want to add 50ppm SO2 to their wine?
>
>
>
>
>
> > Besides being bacteriostatic, SO2 will bleach your wine, so you always
> > want to use the minimum. At around 100 ppm, it will give you a sever
> > head ache. For sensitive people, it may give them an asthma attack in
> > the suggested 30 - 40 ppm range.
>
> > But if it works for you. Go for it.
> > --
> > When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.
> > -Archbishop Helder Camara
>
> >http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...8&pagename=JPo...

In article
>,
wrote:

> "Why would anyone want to add 50ppm SO2 to their wine?"
>
> I don't know, maybe because that is the right level. Someone who
> thinks SO2 gives you a headache is a moron. They don't know their ass
> from their elbow.

Well, I know where my elbow is, and I know where the ass is.
I've been doing this commercially for over 30 years, without complaint.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

30 years? Maybe your stuck in a time warp. Actually, I don't care how
much time you've spent in the industry, from reading some of your
posts your ideas border on the absurd when it comes to amateur
winemaking. Professionals built the Titanic and amateurs built the
Arc. I

On Jan 19, 1:16*am, Wildbilly > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> wrote:
> > "Why would anyone want to add 50ppm SO2 to their wine?"
>
> > I don't know, maybe because that is the right level. Someone who
> > thinks SO2 gives you a headache is a moron. They don't know their ass
> > from their elbow.
>
> Well, I know where my elbow is, and I know where the ass is.
> I've been doing this commercially for over 30 years, without complaint.
> --
> "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
> merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
>
> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...erts020709.htm

In article
>,
wrote:

> 30 years? Maybe your stuck in a time warp. Actually, I don't care how
> much time you've spent in the industry, from reading some of your
> posts your ideas border on the absurd when it comes to amateur
> winemaking. Professionals built the Titanic and amateurs built the
> Arc. I

Hey, Stoopid, listen up.

.. . . the third and final factor behind the new American dumbness: not
lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of knowledge. The
problem is not just the things we do not know (consider the one in five
American adults who, according to the National Science Foundation,
thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming number of
Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to know such
things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a syndrome that
is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and discourse. Not
knowing a foreign language or the location of an important country is a
manifestation of ignorance; denying that such knowledge matters is pure
anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts
discussions of U.S. public policy on topics from health care to taxation.

There is no quick cure for this epidemic of arrogant anti-rationalism
and anti-intellectualism; rote efforts to raise standardized test scores
by stuffing students with specific answers to specific questions on
specific tests will not do the job. Moreover, the people who exemplify
the problem are usually oblivious to it. ("Hardly anyone believes
himself to be against thought and culture," Hofstadter noted.) It is
past time for a serious national discussion about whether, as a nation,
we truly value intellect and rationality. If this indeed turns out to be
a "change election," the low level of discourse in a country with a mind
taught to aim at low objects ought to be the first item on the change
agenda.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2/15/AR2008021
502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR

washingtonpost.com > Opinions > Outlook
The Dumbing Of America
Call Me a Snob, but Really, We're a Nation of Dunces
By Susan Jacoby
Sunday, February 17, 2008; Page B01

----
And it was arrogance that sank the Titanic, and the Ark only exists in
faith.
----

What a humongous steaming pile of ignorance you are, Stoopid, and you're
not nice.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

A nation of dunces? It is my opinion we don't don't have enough dunces
or at least people that can put concepts in laymens terms.


On Jan 19, 3:48*pm, Wildbilly > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> wrote:
> > 30 years? Maybe your stuck in a time warp. Actually, I don't care how
> > much time you've spent in the industry, from reading some of your
> > posts your ideas border on the absurd when it comes to amateur
> > winemaking. Professionals built the Titanic and amateurs built the
> > Arc. I
>
> Hey, Stoopid, listen up.
>
> . . . the third and final factor behind the new American dumbness: not
> lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of knowledge. The
> problem is not just the things we do not know (consider the one in five
> American adults who, according to the National Science Foundation,
> thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming number of
> Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to know such
> things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a syndrome that
> is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and discourse. Not
> knowing a foreign language or the location of an important country is a
> manifestation of ignorance; denying that such knowledge matters is pure
> anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts
> discussions of U.S. public policy on topics from health care to taxation.
>
> There is no quick cure for this epidemic of arrogant anti-rationalism
> and anti-intellectualism; rote efforts to raise standardized test scores
> by stuffing students with specific answers to specific questions on
> specific tests will not do the job. Moreover, the people who exemplify
> the problem are usually oblivious to it. ("Hardly anyone believes
> himself to be against thought and culture," Hofstadter noted.) It is
> past time for a serious national discussion about whether, as a nation,
> we truly value intellect and rationality. If this indeed turns out to be
> a "change election," the low level of discourse in a country with a mind
> taught to aim at low objects ought to be the first item on the change
> agenda.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/02/15/AR200...
> 502901.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&sub=AR
>
> washingtonpost.com *> Opinions *> Outlook
> The Dumbing Of America
> Call Me a Snob, but Really, We're a Nation of Dunces
> By Susan Jacoby
> Sunday, February 17, 2008; Page B01
>
> ----
> And it was arrogance that sank the Titanic, and the Ark only exists in
> faith.
> ----
>
> What a humongous steaming pile of ignorance you are, Stoopid, and you're
> not nice.
> --
> "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
> merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
>
> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...erts020709.htm

On Jan 20, 2:03*am, wrote:
> A nation of dunces? It is my opinion we don't don't have enough dunces
> or at least people that can put concepts in laymens terms.
>
> On Jan 19, 3:48*pm, Wildbilly > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
>
> > wrote:
> > > 30 years? Maybe your stuck in a time warp. Actually, I don't care how
> > > much time you've spent in the industry, from reading some of your
> > > posts your ideas border on the absurd when it comes to amateur
> > > winemaking. Professionals built the Titanic and amateurs built the
> > > Arc. I
>
> > Hey, Stoopid, listen up.
>
> > . . . the third and final factor behind the new American dumbness: not
> > lack of knowledge per se but arrogance about that lack of knowledge. The
> > problem is not just the things we do not know (consider the one in five
> > American adults who, according to the National Science Foundation,
> > thinks the sun revolves around the Earth); it's the alarming number of
> > Americans who have smugly concluded that they do not need to know such
> > things in the first place. Call this anti-rationalism -- a syndrome that
> > is particularly dangerous to our public institutions and discourse. Not
> > knowing a foreign language or the location of an important country is a
> > manifestation of ignorance; denying that such knowledge matters is pure
> > anti-rationalism. The toxic brew of anti-rationalism and ignorance hurts
> > discussions of U.S. public policy on topics from health care to taxation.