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Old 05-07-2006, 08:39 PM posted to alt.food.wine,rec.crafts.winemaking,sci.bio.food-science,sci.chem,sci.bio.microbiology
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Hi:

In the following experiment, I take one of the dryest types of French
white wine that -- of all the French white wines -- is also aged the
most [whatever this wine is]. I place this wine in some sort of
equipment that protects the wine from any and all defects excluding
non-acidic bacterial decomposition. IOW, the only degradation this wine
suffer is that caused by anaerobic bacteria [excluding acetic acid
bacteria and lactic acid bacteria]. The wine container is then filled
with these bacteria. The bacteria initially break down all organic
compounds in the wine -- excluding ethanol -- and then produce waste
products. After this, a seperate bacterium -- Clostridium kluyveri --
is introduced into the wine. Clostridium kluyveri is allowed to feed on
50% of the ethanol in the wine by the following chemical equation:

Ethanol + Acetate + CO2 -- Caproate + Butyrate + H2

Once the above process is finished, any and all sulfides are removed
from the wine. This removes the "rotten egg" odor from the wine that
results from the anaerobes feeding on proteins initially present in the
wine. After this, any chemicals -- excluding water -- that do not have
odors or do not affect odors are removed.

AFAIK, the caproate smells like goat-sweat, and butyrate smells like
rancid butter.

What else would my wine smell like?


Thanks,

Radium


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Please do not feed the troll!


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In article .com, "Radium" wrote:

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Maybe the lack of responses is in itself a response. Your nonsense is getting
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What else would my wine smell like?



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In article . com, " wrote:

Radium wrote:

What else would my wine smell like?



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Darn. Wish I'd thought of that.

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Radium wrote:

What else would my wine smell like?



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Huh?



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