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The Chardonnay I made last year was a straight "steel" type.
In my beer fridge at 58°F Rather fruity and dry. This year I would like to go for the buttery oak type. I plan on pressing my own grapes, then barrel fermenting it. Then Malo with lees stirring. Won't I need to ferment this one warm? I have a 65~70° F basement for the barrel. This is a new american oak barrel, so after fermentation I will age in steel and glass. (maybe add oak chunks if it needs it) Then re-fill the barrel with a cabernet. |
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![]() "Pete" > wrote in message m... > The Chardonnay I made last year was a straight "steel" type. > In my beer fridge at 58°F > Rather fruity and dry. > > This year I would like to go for the buttery oak type. > > I plan on pressing my own grapes, then barrel fermenting it. > Then Malo with lees stirring. > > Won't I need to ferment this one warm? > I have a 65~70° F basement for the barrel. > This is a new american oak barrel, so after fermentation I will age in > steel and glass. (maybe add oak chunks if it needs it) > > Then re-fill the barrel with a cabernet. I recommend a cool barrel fermentation for Chardonnay so as to preserve the fruit. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend American oak for Chardonnay - but hey, it's _your_ wine. You could get close to a French oak barrel fermentation by adding French oak chips to a carboy/keg and leaving it on the lees. I've done that and it's pretty nice. Not the same as a barrel, but pretty good anyway. Tom S |
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![]() "Pete" > wrote in message m... > The Chardonnay I made last year was a straight "steel" type. > In my beer fridge at 58°F > Rather fruity and dry. > > This year I would like to go for the buttery oak type. > > I plan on pressing my own grapes, then barrel fermenting it. > Then Malo with lees stirring. > > Won't I need to ferment this one warm? > I have a 65~70° F basement for the barrel. > This is a new american oak barrel, so after fermentation I will age in > steel and glass. (maybe add oak chunks if it needs it) > > Then re-fill the barrel with a cabernet. I recommend a cool barrel fermentation for Chardonnay so as to preserve the fruit. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend American oak for Chardonnay - but hey, it's _your_ wine. You could get close to a French oak barrel fermentation by adding French oak chips to a carboy/keg and leaving it on the lees. I've done that and it's pretty nice. Not the same as a barrel, but pretty good anyway. Tom S |
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Just remember that your ML fermentation will not progress to completion (if
at all) under the cool conditions (58F) you described. The ML will need warmer temps to finish. "Pete" > wrote in message m... > The Chardonnay I made last year was a straight "steel" type. > In my beer fridge at 58°F > Rather fruity and dry. > > This year I would like to go for the buttery oak type. > > I plan on pressing my own grapes, then barrel fermenting it. > Then Malo with lees stirring. > > Won't I need to ferment this one warm? > I have a 65~70° F basement for the barrel. > This is a new american oak barrel, so after fermentation I will age in > steel and glass. (maybe add oak chunks if it needs it) > > Then re-fill the barrel with a cabernet. |
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Just remember that your ML fermentation will not progress to completion (if
at all) under the cool conditions (58F) you described. The ML will need warmer temps to finish. "Pete" > wrote in message m... > The Chardonnay I made last year was a straight "steel" type. > In my beer fridge at 58°F > Rather fruity and dry. > > This year I would like to go for the buttery oak type. > > I plan on pressing my own grapes, then barrel fermenting it. > Then Malo with lees stirring. > > Won't I need to ferment this one warm? > I have a 65~70° F basement for the barrel. > This is a new american oak barrel, so after fermentation I will age in > steel and glass. (maybe add oak chunks if it needs it) > > Then re-fill the barrel with a cabernet. |
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I don't have the funds for a barrel anyway.. I bought a crusher/destemmer this year.
I ordered some french oak beans instead. Would a cool ferment prevent the Malo culture from working? "Tom S" > wrote in message .com>... > "Pete" > wrote in message > m... > > The Chardonnay I made last year was a straight "steel" type. > > In my beer fridge at 58°F > > Rather fruity and dry. > > > > This year I would like to go for the buttery oak type. > > > > I plan on pressing my own grapes, then barrel fermenting it. > > Then Malo with lees stirring. > > > > Won't I need to ferment this one warm? > > I have a 65~70° F basement for the barrel. > > This is a new american oak barrel, so after fermentation I will age in > > steel and glass. (maybe add oak chunks if it needs it) > > > > Then re-fill the barrel with a cabernet. > > I recommend a cool barrel fermentation for Chardonnay so as to preserve the > fruit. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend American oak for Chardonnay - > but hey, it's _your_ wine. > > You could get close to a French oak barrel fermentation by adding French oak > chips to a carboy/keg and leaving it on the lees. I've done that and it's > pretty nice. Not the same as a barrel, but pretty good anyway. > > Tom S |
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I don't have the funds for a barrel anyway.. I bought a crusher/destemmer this year.
I ordered some french oak beans instead. Would a cool ferment prevent the Malo culture from working? "Tom S" > wrote in message .com>... > "Pete" > wrote in message > m... > > The Chardonnay I made last year was a straight "steel" type. > > In my beer fridge at 58°F > > Rather fruity and dry. > > > > This year I would like to go for the buttery oak type. > > > > I plan on pressing my own grapes, then barrel fermenting it. > > Then Malo with lees stirring. > > > > Won't I need to ferment this one warm? > > I have a 65~70° F basement for the barrel. > > This is a new american oak barrel, so after fermentation I will age in > > steel and glass. (maybe add oak chunks if it needs it) > > > > Then re-fill the barrel with a cabernet. > > I recommend a cool barrel fermentation for Chardonnay so as to preserve the > fruit. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend American oak for Chardonnay - > but hey, it's _your_ wine. > > You could get close to a French oak barrel fermentation by adding French oak > chips to a carboy/keg and leaving it on the lees. I've done that and it's > pretty nice. Not the same as a barrel, but pretty good anyway. > > Tom S |
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