I am new to the art of winemaking.. as a matter of fact this is the first
year i am doing it. A friend of mine taught me the basics and I made my
first batch of raspberry wine with him in my prescence. Since then I made
elderberry, blackberry, current, another batch of raspberry, and sour
cherry. Since wine grapes are not very prominent in my area I was thinking
about trying to make some concord wine from welchs. upon my initial
fermentation, i typically start my wine at about 1.070 on the hydrometer,
and then put it in a secondary fermenter at about 1.020 and go from there.
My question to you experienced winemakers is, is this the same way im going
to start wine from a juice such as welch's and if anyone has any pointers or
guidelines for water addition and such i would greatly appreciate any help.
Im only 24 and have a love for wine and making wine and would like to
continue doing this for a long time to come.

Thanks.
Jim

Look here for recipies

http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/request.asp


On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:07:20 -0500, "James K. Albert Jr."
> wrote:

>I am new to the art of winemaking.. as a matter of fact this is the first
>year i am doing it. A friend of mine taught me the basics and I made my
>first batch of raspberry wine with him in my prescence. Since then I made
>elderberry, blackberry, current, another batch of raspberry, and sour
>cherry. Since wine grapes are not very prominent in my area I was thinking
>about trying to make some concord wine from welchs. upon my initial
>fermentation, i typically start my wine at about 1.070 on the hydrometer,
>and then put it in a secondary fermenter at about 1.020 and go from there.
>My question to you experienced winemakers is, is this the same way im going
>to start wine from a juice such as welch's and if anyone has any pointers or
>guidelines for water addition and such i would greatly appreciate any help.
>Im only 24 and have a love for wine and making wine and would like to
>continue doing this for a long time to come.
>
>Thanks.
>Jim
>

Jim,

I'm so glad we have a "young man" entering our midst.

First of all you need to look at a couple of web sites.....
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/index.asp
and
http://www.defalcos.com/recipeswine.htm
and
http://www.brewmaxer.com/wines/index.html

There are a few others but in my humble opinion these a pretty good to
great for where you are.

A quick answer to your question is 2 cans of concentrate for every
gallon you want to make seems to be pretty standard. Check the above
pages for sugar, pectic enzyme, etc. that you'll need to add.

A couple of comments....
1.07 might be just a bit low....think about upping your sugar content
to oh, say 1.09 to 1.1 or so. Don't freak out.....there is no "right"
answer.....play with it a bit. Make a BUNCH of one gallon batches and
see what YOU like.

Racking to secondary at 1.02 is great and just what you should be
doing.

This is a great hobby. It is one that will allow you to experiment and
find your own style. So enjoy and remember, if you're not having fun
then you're not doing it right.

Dave Stacy


On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:07:20 -0500, "James K. Albert Jr."
> wrote:

>I am new to the art of winemaking.. as a matter of fact this is the first
>year i am doing it. A friend of mine taught me the basics and I made my
>first batch of raspberry wine with him in my prescence. Since then I made
>elderberry, blackberry, current, another batch of raspberry, and sour
>cherry. Since wine grapes are not very prominent in my area I was thinking
>about trying to make some concord wine from welchs. upon my initial
>fermentation, i typically start my wine at about 1.070 on the hydrometer,
>and then put it in a secondary fermenter at about 1.020 and go from there.
>My question to you experienced winemakers is, is this the same way im going
>to start wine from a juice such as welch's and if anyone has any pointers or
>guidelines for water addition and such i would greatly appreciate any help.
>Im only 24 and have a love for wine and making wine and would like to
>continue doing this for a long time to come.
>
>Thanks.
>Jim
>

I'll second the recommendation for Jack's site and his recipes. I've made
several of the one gallon batches from concentrate and would recommend
trying several of them for yourself. If nothing else it will get you used to
the process and help hone your skills as a wine maker. Heck, the end results
are pretty good and interesting too.

Jon.


"A.J. Rawls" > wrote in message
...
> Look here for recipies
>
> http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/request.asp
>
>
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:07:20 -0500, "James K. Albert Jr."
> > wrote:
>
> >I am new to the art of winemaking.. as a matter of fact this is the first
> >year i am doing it. A friend of mine taught me the basics and I made my
> >first batch of raspberry wine with him in my prescence. Since then I
made
> >elderberry, blackberry, current, another batch of raspberry, and sour
> >cherry. Since wine grapes are not very prominent in my area I was
thinking
> >about trying to make some concord wine from welchs. upon my initial
> >fermentation, i typically start my wine at about 1.070 on the hydrometer,
> >and then put it in a secondary fermenter at about 1.020 and go from
there.
> >My question to you experienced winemakers is, is this the same way im
going
> >to start wine from a juice such as welch's and if anyone has any pointers
or
> >guidelines for water addition and such i would greatly appreciate any
help.
> >Im only 24 and have a love for wine and making wine and would like to
> >continue doing this for a long time to come.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Jim
> >
>

Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!

I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
Still have a LOT to learn...

What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
Many around Jim's age?
Many around my age?
Many around retirement age?

How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!

Rick

I think I asked this question of age and profession last year. The thread
was staggering in length. It was really cool to read all the responses
although it took a couple weeks to finish.

Jon.

--

Come visit us on the web!
http://www.largescale-trains.com
Home of the JJ&C Railroad


"Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message
...
> Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!
>
> I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
> Still have a LOT to learn...
>
> What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
> Many around Jim's age?
> Many around my age?
> Many around retirement age?
>
> How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
> just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!
>
> Rick
>
>

Rick,
I'm a fortysomething (actually 45), and I started making wine about 3 years
ago.
Darlene

"Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message
...
> Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!
>
> I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
> Still have a LOT to learn...
>
> What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
> Many around Jim's age?
> Many around my age?
> Many around retirement age?
>
> How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
> just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!
>
> Rick
>
>

it's interesting how often some of these topics can cycle,
like removing labels,
or making wine from welch's
or age, etc...
But it does show that new people find the group,
or people just start this wonderful hobby!

I must have missed it when you asked that last year Jon...

rick

"Jon Foster" > wrote in message
news
> I think I asked this question of age and profession last year. The thread
> was staggering in length. It was really cool to read all the responses
> although it took a couple weeks to finish.
>
> Jon.
>
> --
>
> Come visit us on the web!
> http://www.largescale-trains.com
> Home of the JJ&C Railroad
>
>
> "Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!
> >
> > I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
> > Still have a LOT to learn...
> >
> > What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
> > Many around Jim's age?
> > Many around my age?
> > Many around retirement age?
> >
> > How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
> > just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
>

Rick,

I started making wine at age 15 and am now 49. I volunteer as a part
time "cellar rat" at a friend's commercial winery, but I mostly make FA
hybrid wines from my own small home planting. Yes, I started with
Welches and have, perhaps, learned a bit. But, as you say, there's a lot
still to learn. Let's hope we don't run out of new things (and wines!)
to discover.

Cheers, Mike McGeough MTM in northern NJ

Rick Vanderwal wrote:

Rick Vanderwal wrote:

> Many around Jim's age?

I'm only 22

Been at winemaking for a couple years now and have been reading as much
as possible on the matter.

--
charles

"Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were
forced to live on nothing but food and water for days."
- W.C. Fields

Charles H wrote in message ...
>Rick Vanderwal wrote:
>
>> Many around Jim's age?
>
>I'm only 22
>
>Been at winemaking for a couple years now and have been reading as much
>as possible on the matter.
>
>--
>charles
>
>"Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were
>forced to live on nothing but food and water for days."
>- W.C. Fields

I'm mostly a lurker here.,,,but i do make a bit of wine and mead. Mostly
beer though. I'm 22 and I've been homebrewing for about 2.5 years

john

Newbie here.. 27 and less than one year of winemaking.. in my
second batch, tho I have yet to taste my first batch.. (giving it
more time to age in the bottles as recomnended... )




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can share your wisdom as well!

"Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message >...
> Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!
>
> I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
> Still have a LOT to learn...
>
> What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
> Many around Jim's age?
> Many around my age?
> Many around retirement age?
>
> How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
> just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!
>
> Rick

Age 43 Started making wine in DEC with my Xmas Gift
been makking Homemade Apple Jack /Hard Cider for years

(GWP29) wrote in message . com>...
> "Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message >...
> > Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!
> >
> > I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
> > Still have a LOT to learn...
> >
> > What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
> > Many around Jim's age?
> > Many around my age?
> > Many around retirement age?
> >
> > How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
> > just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!
> >
> > Rick
>
> Age 43 Started making wine in DEC with my Xmas Gift
> been makking Homemade Apple Jack /Hard Cider for years
Aubrey Johnson from Augusta, GA. I am 70 years old and have been
making wine only three years. Work with fruit wines, mostly
Scuppernong, Blackberry and Blueberry. Thiw web site has been a real
find for me. Check on the posts almost daily and still learning every
day. Aubrey

> "Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message >...
> > Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!
> >
> > I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
> > Still have a LOT to learn...
> >
> > What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
> > Many around Jim's age?
> > Many around my age?
> > Many around retirement age?
> >
> > How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
> > just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!
> >
> > Rick

I am 28 and I have been making wine and beer for about 14 years now.
I have been happy with the beer for some time, but the wine only
started turning out drinkable in the last year or so ( about a year
after I started reading r.c.w.) With any luck I am not too far from
retirement age.

-Galileo

I am 58 and started when I was 24. Let's see, that is, ummm, a long time.

I still get excited when I start each batch and know that it will be the
best ever.

Ray

"Rick Vanderwal" > wrote in message
...
> Young man? hmmmm, to be 24 again!
>
> I was 37 when I started 3 years ago, and 40 years old now.
> Still have a LOT to learn...
>
> What's the average age of all our winemaking friends?
> Many around Jim's age?
> Many around my age?
> Many around retirement age?
>
> How old are we? And how long have we been doing it for?
> just a way to get to know the list participants a bit better!
>
> Rick
>
>
>

Ray wrote:

> I am 58 and started when I was 24. Let's see, that is, ummm, a long time.
>
> I still get excited when I start each batch and know that it will be the
> best ever.
>
> Ray

But it never will be as good as mine

"John D. Misrahi" > wrote in message >...
> Charles H wrote in message ...
> >Rick Vanderwal wrote:
> >
> >> Many around Jim's age?
> >
> >I'm only 22
> >
> >Been at winemaking for a couple years now and have been reading as much
> >as possible on the matter.
> >
> >--
> >charles
> >
> >"Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were
> >forced to live on nothing but food and water for days."
> >- W.C. Fields
>
> I'm mostly a lurker here.,,,but i do make a bit of wine and mead. Mostly
> beer though. I'm 22 and I've been homebrewing for about 2.5 years
>
> john

hehe.... lawbreaker!!!!

I started about 1.125 years ago, and am 22 also. =)

evilpaul13 wrote:

> > Charles H wrote in message ...
> > >Rick Vanderwal wrote:
> > >
> > >> Many around Jim's age?
> > >
> > >I'm only 22
> >
> > I'm mostly a lurker here.,,,but i do make a bit of wine and mead. Mostly
> > beer though. I'm 22 and I've been homebrewing for about 2.5 years
> >
>
> hehe.... lawbreaker!!!!
>
> I started about 1.125 years ago, and am 22 also. =)

Drinking age in Canada is 18 or 19, depending on the province... so no
worries for John or I!

--
charles

"Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were
forced to live on nothing but food and water for days."
- W.C. Fields

I'm 77 and have been making wine for over 20 years. Have won a wall full of
medal too!. Last year I entered 5 wines in the NM State Fair Wine
Competition and won 5 medals. 2 gold, 2 silver and 1 bronze, The 2 golds
were best of show (one for red and one for white.) Very rewarding!!!!!

--
Regards,
Rex Franklin
"Charles H" > wrote in message
...
> evilpaul13 wrote:
>
> > > Charles H wrote in message ...
> > > >Rick Vanderwal wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Many around Jim's age?
> > > >
> > > >I'm only 22
> > >
> > > I'm mostly a lurker here.,,,but i do make a bit of wine and mead.
Mostly
> > > beer though. I'm 22 and I've been homebrewing for about 2.5 years
> > >
> >
> > hehe.... lawbreaker!!!!
> >
> > I started about 1.125 years ago, and am 22 also. =)
>
> Drinking age in Canada is 18 or 19, depending on the province... so no
> worries for John or I!
>
> --
> charles
>
> "Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were
> forced to live on nothing but food and water for days."
> - W.C. Fields