Hello-

I found a great deal on a crusher and wine press but now I'm looking to
either build/buy a destemmer. I know this was covered in great detail
once before-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...d863d72c9a8404

but I'm hoping that someone can provide photos of their destemmer- lots
of digital pictures, and possibly permit me to post them on my website
as examples. I'm collecting designs of 'build it yourself' equipment-
it's fun, it's challenging, and it gets me out of the office enough to
relax and not care about the job.

Anyways- I could use some really good photos of the destemmer screens
and fingers- just so that I could visualize how they work myself (I've
never seen one yet in operation).

Thanks much!

Jason

Jason - How many pounds of grapes are you processing? If not too many there
is a simple way to destem. I have a Eno crusher without the destemer
attachment. It's light weight and easy to move around and clean. I destem
through a 2-mesh stainless steel screen attached to a plywood frame that
fits over a 32 gallon trash can. I've used this for years with good
results. Monday afternoon I picked 233lbs Cabernet Franc in the back yard.
I crushed twice in about 10 minutes. I spent a couple of hours destemming
the batch using the 2-mesh screen. It's simple and very effective. All
stems, including the little jack stems, can be removed with a little care.
It would be nice to have a mechanized destemmer but since I already have the
Eno, and only crush two to three varieties of grapes each year this system
suits my operation. If you are interested I can send pictures of the screen
and frame...also smaller screens I use to deseed the must before and during
fermentation.

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas USA


> wrote in message
ps.com...
> Hello-
>
> I found a great deal on a crusher and wine press but now I'm looking to
> either build/buy a destemmer. I know this was covered in great detail
> once before-
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...d863d72c9a8404
>
> but I'm hoping that someone can provide photos of their destemmer- lots
> of digital pictures, and possibly permit me to post them on my website
> as examples. I'm collecting designs of 'build it yourself' equipment-
> it's fun, it's challenging, and it gets me out of the office enough to
> relax and not care about the job.
>
> Anyways- I could use some really good photos of the destemmer screens
> and fingers- just so that I could visualize how they work myself (I've
> never seen one yet in operation).
>
> Thanks much!
>
> Jason
>

William Frazier wrote:
> Jason - How many pounds of grapes are you processing? If not too many there
snip
> suits my operation. If you are interested I can send pictures of the screen
> and frame...also smaller screens I use to deseed the must before and during
> fermentation.
> Bill Frazier
> Olathe, Kansas USA
>

Bill-

That would be perfect. I'm not processing any grapes *(yet)* although
I may since I might be able to get some Concord or Niagara for
$0.20/lb. I'm interested in building my own gear when possible- but
since I get a crusher (star style wheels, spring loaded/ gear driven)
with the wine press, I would like to start gaining the knowledge on how
everything else works

As an aside, how should I clean up the wine press- disassemble/drill
out the rivets on the slats, sand them down, soak in sulfite/citric
acid, reassemble?

Jason

>
> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> > Hello-
> >
> > I found a great deal on a crusher and wine press but now I'm looking to
> > either build/buy a destemmer. I know this was covered in great detail
> > once before-
> > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...d863d72c9a8404
> >
> > but I'm hoping that someone can provide photos of their destemmer- lots
> > of digital pictures, and possibly permit me to post them on my website
> > as examples. I'm collecting designs of 'build it yourself' equipment-
> > it's fun, it's challenging, and it gets me out of the office enough to
> > relax and not care about the job.
> >
> > Anyways- I could use some really good photos of the destemmer screens
> > and fingers- just so that I could visualize how they work myself (I've
> > never seen one yet in operation).
> >
> > Thanks much!
> >
> > Jason
> >

William Frazier wrote:
> Jason - How many pounds of grapes are you processing? If not too
> many there is a simple way to destem. I have a Eno crusher without
> the destemer attachment. It's light weight and easy to move around
> and clean. I destem through a 2-mesh stainless steel screen attached
> to a plywood frame that fits over a 32 gallon trash can. I've used
> this for years with good results. Monday afternoon I picked 233lbs
> Cabernet Franc in the back yard. I crushed twice in about 10 minutes.
> I spent a couple of hours destemming the batch using the 2-mesh
> screen. It's simple and very effective. All stems, including the
> little jack stems, can be removed with a little care. It would be
> nice to have a mechanized destemmer but since I already have the Eno,
> and only crush two to three varieties of grapes each year this system
> suits my operation. If you are interested I can send pictures of
> the screen and frame...also smaller screens I use to deseed the must
> before and during fermentation.
>
> Bill Frazier Olathe, Kansas USA
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
>> Hello-
>>
>> I found a great deal on a crusher and wine press but now I'm
>> looking to either build/buy a destemmer. I know this was covered
>> in great detail once before-
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...d863d72c9a8404
>>
>>
>> but I'm hoping that someone can provide photos of their destemmer-
>> lots of digital pictures, and possibly permit me to post them on my
>> website as examples. I'm collecting designs of 'build it yourself'
>> equipment- it's fun, it's challenging, and it gets me out of the
>> office enough to relax and not care about the job.
>>
>> Anyways- I could use some really good photos of the destemmer
>> screens and fingers- just so that I could visualize how they work
>> myself (I've never seen one yet in operation).
>>
>> Thanks much!
>>
>> Jason

We usually process about 2000lbs of grapes for two families. We crush
with a 75 year old crusher powered by an electric motor and destem by
hand using a stainless steel pan with holes drilled in the bottom placed
over an open 55 gal barrels. Takes about 3 hours.

Steve

How does that work by hand? Do you just rub them across the pan?

Bill, I would be interested in the pictures also.


Steve Landis wrote:
> William Frazier wrote:
>> Jason - How many pounds of grapes are you processing? If not too
>> many there is a simple way to destem. I have a Eno crusher without
>> the destemer attachment. It's light weight and easy to move around
>> and clean. I destem through a 2-mesh stainless steel screen attached
>> to a plywood frame that fits over a 32 gallon trash can. I've used
>> this for years with good results. Monday afternoon I picked 233lbs
>> Cabernet Franc in the back yard. I crushed twice in about 10 minutes.
>> I spent a couple of hours destemming the batch using the 2-mesh
>> screen. It's simple and very effective. All stems, including the
>> little jack stems, can be removed with a little care. It would be
>> nice to have a mechanized destemmer but since I already have the Eno,
>> and only crush two to three varieties of grapes each year this system
>> suits my operation. If you are interested I can send pictures of
>> the screen and frame...also smaller screens I use to deseed the must
>> before and during fermentation.
>>
>> Bill Frazier Olathe, Kansas USA
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ps.com...
>>> Hello-
>>>
>>> I found a great deal on a crusher and wine press but now I'm
>>> looking to either build/buy a destemmer. I know this was covered
>>> in great detail once before-
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...d863d72c9a8404
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> but I'm hoping that someone can provide photos of their destemmer-
>>> lots of digital pictures, and possibly permit me to post them on my
>>> website as examples. I'm collecting designs of 'build it yourself'
>>> equipment- it's fun, it's challenging, and it gets me out of the
>>> office enough to relax and not care about the job.
>>>
>>> Anyways- I could use some really good photos of the destemmer
>>> screens and fingers- just so that I could visualize how they work
>>> myself (I've never seen one yet in operation).
>>>
>>> Thanks much!
>>>
>>> Jason
>
> We usually process about 2000lbs of grapes for two families. We crush
> with a 75 year old crusher powered by an electric motor and destem by
> hand using a stainless steel pan with holes drilled in the bottom placed
> over an open 55 gal barrels. Takes about 3 hours.
>
> Steve

Marty Phee wrote:
> How does that work by hand? Do you just rub them across the pan?
>
> Bill, I would be interested in the pictures also.
>
>
> Steve Landis wrote:
>> William Frazier wrote:
>>> Jason - How many pounds of grapes are you processing? If not too
>>> many there is a simple way to destem. I have a Eno crusher without
>>> the destemer attachment. It's light weight and easy to move around
>>> and clean. I destem through a 2-mesh stainless steel screen attached
>>> to a plywood frame that fits over a 32 gallon trash can. I've used
>>> this for years with good results. Monday afternoon I picked 233lbs
>>> Cabernet Franc in the back yard. I crushed twice in about 10 minutes.
>>> I spent a couple of hours destemming the batch using the 2-mesh
>>> screen. It's simple and very effective. All stems, including the
>>> little jack stems, can be removed with a little care. It would be
>>> nice to have a mechanized destemmer but since I already have the Eno,
>>> and only crush two to three varieties of grapes each year this system
>>> suits my operation. If you are interested I can send pictures of
>>> the screen and frame...also smaller screens I use to deseed the must
>>> before and during fermentation.
>>>
>>> Bill Frazier Olathe, Kansas USA
>>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ps.com...
>>>> Hello-
>>>>
>>>> I found a great deal on a crusher and wine press but now I'm
>>>> looking to either build/buy a destemmer. I know this was covered
>>>> in great detail once before-
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.c...d863d72c9a8404
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but I'm hoping that someone can provide photos of their destemmer-
>>>> lots of digital pictures, and possibly permit me to post them on my
>>>> website as examples. I'm collecting designs of 'build it yourself'
>>>> equipment- it's fun, it's challenging, and it gets me out of the
>>>> office enough to relax and not care about the job.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways- I could use some really good photos of the destemmer
>>>> screens and fingers- just so that I could visualize how they work
>>>> myself (I've never seen one yet in operation).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much!
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>
>> We usually process about 2000lbs of grapes for two families. We crush
>> with a 75 year old crusher powered by an electric motor and destem by
>> hand using a stainless steel pan with holes drilled in the bottom
>> placed over an open 55 gal barrels. Takes about 3 hours.
>>
>> Steve

Yes, just rub the grapes off the stems, through the holes and discard
the stems. Keep the palm of your hand flat so you don't rub your
knuckles off. Some folks use a plastic milk crate
http://www.rehrigpacific.com/images/...lash_dairy.jpg

Steve