I picked the Noiret because they were at least 18 brix, TA was below 0.8%
and mainly because some rot was starting in clusters and some grapes were
starting to wrinkle up. If the grapes had stayed in good shape I would not
have picked. Chambourcin, growing in the next row, were perfect this year
and I picked them September 8th at 21 brix, pH 3.26 and TA 0.78%. They were
full of juice. But, I know others here in the KC area that let them hang
longer. I believe Noiret is just an earlier grape.

Bill Frazier

> wrote in message
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> Thanks William.
>
> It's amazing , you have a month longer growing season in KC than I do
> but because of the heat you actually lose weeks. I think your right
> about the heat. Here in the NE the temps have been pretty good the last
> few years. Actually, this year is turning out better than I had
> thought. We've had planty of rain and we'll see how the next month
> goes. SO far so good. Just one question, why did you harvest this year
> so early in August?
>
> Bob
>
> William Frazier wrote:
>> Bob - It certainly gets hot enough in KC...this summer it was too hot.
>> Temps between 90 and 100F for several weeks and I believe this hurt sugar
>> production in all my grapes.
>>
>> I noted bud swelling for Noiret April 7th. They were in bloom May 21st
>> and
>> veraison started July 5th. I spur prune these vines and had 30 shoots
>> per
>> vine. I cluster thinned to NMT two clusters per shoot. This year there
>> were 14.2 lbs/vine.These are large grapes...about the size of
>> Chambourcin.
>> I let them hang until I see some berries starting to raisin up. Here's
>> some harvest data;
>>
>> 2003-August 22nd, 20.4 brix, 3.71 pH, 0.68%TA
>> 2004-September 22nd, 19.5 brix, 3.54 pH, 0.72%TA
>> 2005-September 6th, 18.6 brix, 3.50 brix, 0.83%TA
>> 2006-August 13th, 18.3 brix, 3.34 pH, 0.77%TA
>>
>> Bill Frazier
>> Olathe, Kansas USA
>>
>> > wrote in message
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>> > William,
>> >
>> > What PH do the NY73 grapes get to?? Is 20 brix the norm for those
>> > grapes or is the growing season to cool in KC? What's the average day
>> > of bud break and first fall frost in the KC area? When do you usually
>> > harvest them?
>> >
>> > Bob
>