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Old 07-04-2005, 11:40 PM
Mat
 
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Default Heads up / recommendation for Australian riesling lovers [RichmondGrove].

Hello,

Given the love of riesling some ppl have in here, thot I would report a
recent review by Ralph Kyte-Powell in the Age newspaper here in Melbourne.

He gave the Richmond Grove 2004 Riesling 5/5. At $12-14AU [probably
cheaper around] he labels it "an astonishing buy".

This is the entry level label. There are higher rieslings I think.

Greenish, pale colour and delicate aroma that's floral and lime-accented
with a tight, mineral thread. The palate is ripe, yet classically
structured with intense fruit and zesty acidity in excellent balance. It
should age well.

Drink over 5 years plus.


I've never had anything from Richmond Grove, but a friend swears by the
Chardonnay with crustaceans.



Mat.


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Old 07-04-2005, 11:58 PM
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The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few years,
they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring) who is
pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a 1996 a
couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser vintage.

The French Cask Chardonnay is pleasant enough but not in the same league as
the Riesling.

Richmond Grove are owned by Orlando Wyndham. The only other Riesling under
the Richmond Grove label is a Barossa Riesling which is not nearly as good.

"Mat" [email protected] wrote in message ...
Hello,

Given the love of riesling some ppl have in here, thot I would report a
recent review by Ralph Kyte-Powell in the Age newspaper here in Melbourne.

He gave the Richmond Grove 2004 Riesling 5/5. At $12-14AU [probably
cheaper around] he labels it "an astonishing buy".

This is the entry level label. There are higher rieslings I think.

Greenish, pale colour and delicate aroma that's floral and lime-accented
with a tight, mineral thread. The palate is ripe, yet classically
structured with intense fruit and zesty acidity in excellent balance. It
should age well.

Drink over 5 years plus.


I've never had anything from Richmond Grove, but a friend swears by the
Chardonnay with crustaceans.



Mat.



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The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few years,
they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring) who is
pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a 1996 a
couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser vintage.

The French Cask Chardonnay is pleasant enough but not in the same league as
the Riesling.

Richmond Grove are owned by Orlando Wyndham. The only other Riesling under
the Richmond Grove label is a Barossa Riesling which is not nearly as good.

"Mat" [email protected] wrote in message ...
Hello,

Given the love of riesling some ppl have in here, thot I would report a
recent review by Ralph Kyte-Powell in the Age newspaper here in Melbourne.

He gave the Richmond Grove 2004 Riesling 5/5. At $12-14AU [probably
cheaper around] he labels it "an astonishing buy".

This is the entry level label. There are higher rieslings I think.

Greenish, pale colour and delicate aroma that's floral and lime-accented
with a tight, mineral thread. The palate is ripe, yet classically
structured with intense fruit and zesty acidity in excellent balance. It
should age well.

Drink over 5 years plus.


I've never had anything from Richmond Grove, but a friend swears by the
Chardonnay with crustaceans.



Mat.



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Old 08-04-2005, 12:16 AM
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Keith wrote:

The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few years,
they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring) who is
pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a 1996 a
couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser vintage.

The French Cask Chardonnay is pleasant enough but not in the same league as
the Riesling.

Richmond Grove are owned by Orlando Wyndham. The only other Riesling under
the Richmond Grove label is a Barossa Riesling which is not nearly as good.


Yeah that was the blurb in the review [I left that out].

But it says "just as good as its more revered cousin*s*". I think there
is another watervale above the entry level one?

The guy buys that chardonnay by the case. I think there might even be an
unoaked one which is the one he buys, but don't quote me on that. I
vaguely recall thinking "no oak????".


Is there anything the big boys don't own?


Mat.

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Keith wrote:

The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few years,
they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring) who is
pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a 1996 a
couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser vintage.

The French Cask Chardonnay is pleasant enough but not in the same league as
the Riesling.

Richmond Grove are owned by Orlando Wyndham. The only other Riesling under
the Richmond Grove label is a Barossa Riesling which is not nearly as good.


Yeah that was the blurb in the review [I left that out].

But it says "just as good as its more revered cousin*s*". I think there
is another watervale above the entry level one?

The guy buys that chardonnay by the case. I think there might even be an
unoaked one which is the one he buys, but don't quote me on that. I
vaguely recall thinking "no oak????".


Is there anything the big boys don't own?


Mat.



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John Vickery, not Vickory. Yes, Ive tried this wine and bought a case. It is
very good value. Better but more expensive is the 2004 Kilikanoon Mort's
Block riesling - this is a 10 year+ proposition.

Ron

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The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few
years, they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring)
who is pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a
1996 a couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser vintage.


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John Vickery, not Vickory. Yes, Ive tried this wine and bought a case. It is
very good value. Better but more expensive is the 2004 Kilikanoon Mort's
Block riesling - this is a 10 year+ proposition.

Ron

"Keith" wrote in message
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The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few
years, they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring)
who is pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a
1996 a couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser vintage.


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Watervale is a part of the Clare Valley. There are quite a few Rieslings
made in the area, eg Jim Barry, which would presumably be the cousins
referred to in the article.

"Mat" [email protected] wrote in message ...
Keith wrote:

The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few
years, they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring)
who is pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a
1996 a couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser
vintage.

The French Cask Chardonnay is pleasant enough but not in the same league
as the Riesling.

Richmond Grove are owned by Orlando Wyndham. The only other Riesling
under the Richmond Grove label is a Barossa Riesling which is not nearly
as good.


Yeah that was the blurb in the review [I left that out].

But it says "just as good as its more revered cousin*s*". I think there is
another watervale above the entry level one?

The guy buys that chardonnay by the case. I think there might even be an
unoaked one which is the one he buys, but don't quote me on that. I
vaguely recall thinking "no oak????".


Is there anything the big boys don't own?


Mat.



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Keith
 
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Watervale is a part of the Clare Valley. There are quite a few Rieslings
made in the area, eg Jim Barry, which would presumably be the cousins
referred to in the article.

"Mat" [email protected] wrote in message ...
Keith wrote:

The Richmond Grove Watervale Rieslings have been good for quite a few
years, they are made under the guidance of John Vickory (ex Leo Buring)
who is pretty much the father of good Riesling in Australia. I drank a
1996 a couple of days ago which was superb despite being a lesser
vintage.

The French Cask Chardonnay is pleasant enough but not in the same league
as the Riesling.

Richmond Grove are owned by Orlando Wyndham. The only other Riesling
under the Richmond Grove label is a Barossa Riesling which is not nearly
as good.


Yeah that was the blurb in the review [I left that out].

But it says "just as good as its more revered cousin*s*". I think there is
another watervale above the entry level one?

The guy buys that chardonnay by the case. I think there might even be an
unoaked one which is the one he buys, but don't quote me on that. I
vaguely recall thinking "no oak????".


Is there anything the big boys don't own?


Mat.





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