hi!

i'm new here and i'm really hoping that i could find some really nice people to help me out.

Anyway, i just wanted to learn how to make some homemade wine. I haven't purchased my equipment first since i don't really know if i have to. I read a blog about wine making kits that says i can use substitutes. but i think i want to be safe by asking someone first.

is it possible to substitute the tools? will that make any difference?

oh and those wine making kits? is it advisable for beginners to ferment the concentrated grape juice sold in the internet or is it better to start with fruit juices that you juice yourself?

thanks guys...

expect me to ask more questions.. hehe

vintnerwannabe ha scritto:
> hi!
>
> i'm new here and i'm really hoping that i could find some really nice
> people to help me out.
>
> Anyway, i just wanted to learn how to make some homemade wine. I
> haven't purchased my equipment first since i don't really know if i
> have to. I read a blog about wine making kits that says i can use
> substitutes. but i think i want to be safe by asking someone first.
>
> is it possible to substitute the tools? will that make any difference?
>
> oh and those wine making kits? is it advisable for beginners to ferment
> the concentrated grape juice sold in the internet or is it better to
> start with fruit juices that you juice yourself?
>
> thanks guys...
>
> expect me to ask more questions.. hehe


If you can limit your wishes to (approx.) 100 liters, 200 $ should be
sufficient to buy a steel vat (necessary) and a couple of demijohns,
that is all you need.
What you really need is a suitable space (fresh, clean, water, etc), and
GRAPES! No commercial juices and all that sort of mud.

Luk

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:54:40 +0000, vintnerwannabe
> wrote:

>
> hi!
>
> i'm new here and i'm really hoping that i could find some really nice
> people to help me out.
>
> Anyway, i just wanted to learn how to make some homemade wine. I
> haven't purchased my equipment first since i don't really know if i
> have to. I read a blog about wine making kits that says i can use
> substitutes. but i think i want to be safe by asking someone first.
>
> is it possible to substitute the tools? will that make any difference?
>
> oh and those wine making kits? is it advisable for beginners to ferment
> the concentrated grape juice sold in the internet or is it better to
> start with fruit juices that you juice yourself?
>
> thanks guys...
>
> expect me to ask more questions.. hehe


Although you might get *some* answers here, you've really come to the
wrong place to ask questions about winemaking. This is a wine drinking
newsgroup, not a winemaking one.

You would very likely get much better results if you would ask your
questions in rec.crafts.winemaking.

--
Ken Blake
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:59:43 -0700:

>> hi!
>>
>> i'm new here and i'm really hoping that i could find some
>> really nice people to help me out.
>>
>> Anyway, i just wanted to learn how to make some homemade
>> wine. I haven't purchased my equipment first since i don't
>> really know if i have to. I read a blog about wine making
>> kits that says i can use substitutes. but i think i want to
>> be safe by asking someone first.
>>
>> is it possible to substitute the tools? will that make any
>> difference?
>>
>> oh and those wine making kits? is it advisable for beginners
>> to ferment the concentrated grape juice sold in the internet
>> or is it better to start with fruit juices that you juice
>> yourself?
>>
>> thanks guys...
>>
>> expect me to ask more questions.. hehe

> Although you might get *some* answers here, you've really come
> to the wrong place to ask questions about winemaking. This is
> a wine drinking newsgroup, not a winemaking one.

> You would very likely get much better results if you would ask
> your questions in rec.crafts.winemaking.

In r.f.wine, you are more likely to get anecdotes from people like me
concerning my grandfather's experiments and disasters making English
country wines.
--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:20:47 -0500, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Ken wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:59:43 -0700:
>
> >> hi!
> >>
> >> i'm new here and i'm really hoping that i could find some
> >> really nice people to help me out.
> >>
> >> Anyway, i just wanted to learn how to make some homemade
> >> wine. I haven't purchased my equipment first since i don't
> >> really know if i have to. I read a blog about wine making
> >> kits that says i can use substitutes. but i think i want to
> >> be safe by asking someone first.
> >>
> >> is it possible to substitute the tools? will that make any
> >> difference?
> >>
> >> oh and those wine making kits? is it advisable for beginners
> >> to ferment the concentrated grape juice sold in the internet
> >> or is it better to start with fruit juices that you juice
> >> yourself?
> >>
> >> thanks guys...
> >>
> >> expect me to ask more questions.. hehe
>
> > Although you might get *some* answers here, you've really come
> > to the wrong place to ask questions about winemaking. This is
> > a wine drinking newsgroup, not a winemaking one.
>
> > You would very likely get much better results if you would ask
> > your questions in rec.crafts.winemaking.
>
> In r.f.wine, you are more likely to get anecdotes from people like me
> concerning my grandfather's experiments and disasters making English
> country wines.


Sorry, I'm not aware of a newsgroup called "r.f.wine." Do you mean
rec.crafts.winemaking? If so and if you are a participant there, I'll
defer to your better knowledge of it than mine. I've actually never
been there myself, and my comment above was based solely on its name.

--
Ken Blake
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake wrote:

>
> Sorry, I'm not aware of a newsgroup called "r.f.wine." Do you mean
> rec.crafts.winemaking? If so and if you are a participant there, I'll
> defer to your better knowledge of it than mine. I've actually never
> been there myself, and my comment above was based solely on its name.
>

I'm pretty sure that Jim meant here, and that the r. just crept in
unannounced.

Mark Lipton

--
alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

Ken wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:01:00 -0700:

>> Ken wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:59:43 -0700:
>>
> >>> hi!
> >>>
> >>> i'm new here and i'm really hoping that i could find some
> >>> really nice people to help me out.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, i just wanted to learn how to make some homemade
> >>> wine. I haven't purchased my equipment first since i don't
> >>> really know if i have to. I read a blog about wine making
> >>> kits that says i can use substitutes. but i think i want
> >>> to be safe by asking someone first.
> >>>
> >>> is it possible to substitute the tools? will that make any
> >>> difference?
> >>>
> >>> oh and those wine making kits? is it advisable for
> >>> beginners to ferment the concentrated grape juice sold in
> >>> the internet or is it better to start with fruit juices
> >>> that you juice yourself?
> >>>
> >>> thanks guys...
> >>>
> >>> expect me to ask more questions.. hehe
>>
> >> Although you might get *some* answers here, you've really
> >> come to the wrong place to ask questions about winemaking.
> >> This is a wine drinking newsgroup, not a winemaking one.
>>
> >> You would very likely get much better results if you would
> >> ask your questions in rec.crafts.winemaking.
>>
>> In r.f.wine, you are more likely to get anecdotes from people
>> like me concerning my grandfather's experiments and disasters
>> making English country wines.

> Sorry, I'm not aware of a newsgroup called "r.f.wine." Do you
> mean rec.crafts.winemaking? If so and if you are a participant
> there, I'll defer to your better knowledge of it than mine.
> I've actually never been there myself, and my comment above
> was based solely on its name.

Sorry, a mental aberration! I wish this group was rec.food.wine but it
is alt.food.wine.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:28:04 -0500, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Ken wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:01:00 -0700:
>
> >> Ken wrote on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:59:43 -0700:
> >>
> > >>> hi!
> > >>>
> > >>> i'm new here and i'm really hoping that i could find some
> > >>> really nice people to help me out.
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyway, i just wanted to learn how to make some homemade
> > >>> wine. I haven't purchased my equipment first since i don't
> > >>> really know if i have to. I read a blog about wine making
> > >>> kits that says i can use substitutes. but i think i want
> > >>> to be safe by asking someone first.
> > >>>
> > >>> is it possible to substitute the tools? will that make any
> > >>> difference?
> > >>>
> > >>> oh and those wine making kits? is it advisable for
> > >>> beginners to ferment the concentrated grape juice sold in
> > >>> the internet or is it better to start with fruit juices
> > >>> that you juice yourself?
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks guys...
> > >>>
> > >>> expect me to ask more questions.. hehe
> >>
> > >> Although you might get *some* answers here, you've really
> > >> come to the wrong place to ask questions about winemaking.
> > >> This is a wine drinking newsgroup, not a winemaking one.
> >>
> > >> You would very likely get much better results if you would
> > >> ask your questions in rec.crafts.winemaking.
> >>
> >> In r.f.wine, you are more likely to get anecdotes from people
> >> like me concerning my grandfather's experiments and disasters
> >> making English country wines.
>
> > Sorry, I'm not aware of a newsgroup called "r.f.wine." Do you
> > mean rec.crafts.winemaking? If so and if you are a participant
> > there, I'll defer to your better knowledge of it than mine.
> > I've actually never been there myself, and my comment above
> > was based solely on its name.
>
> Sorry, a mental aberration! I wish this group was rec.food.wine but it
> is alt.food.wine.


OK, sorry for not guessing correctly, and therefore misunderstanding
you.

--
Ken Blake
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Hi folks,
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:28:04 -0500, "James Silverton"
> wrote:
>Sorry, a mental aberration! I wish this group was rec.food.wine but it
>is alt.food.wine.

Good point. I know that the rules for creating newsgroups in the
"official" hierarchies are complex, but - if they are anything like
the French ones, they aren't impossibly so. Given that a.f.w. has
existed perfectly peacefully for a number of years, but that ever
increasing numbers of news servers are dropping the entire alt
hierarchy, or considering it, does anyone think that it might be
worthwhile starting the process off?