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As a well-known AFW resident busybody, I've periodically taken it
upon
myself to post courtesy reminders.

A few thoughts (from previous courtesy posts):
1) This is Usenet , a tool for discussion. Don't expect to post
something w/o possibility of someone refuting it.
2) Please keep in mind that many of the contributors to alt.food.wine
do not speak English as their first language. Also even for some of
us
who do, it's easy to mistake the tone of written communication. If
there's 2 ways to take a post, be easy on yourself and decide the
least
offensive perception is the
correct one.
3) Let's try our best to avoid personal comments. If you don't like
someone, filter their posts. The details of how to do that vary
according to newsreader software, but tutorials exist on the Web for
employing filters in all the popular newsreaders. If you use Google
Groups just try to ignore.
4) If you realize someone's intent is to provoke and annoy (in other
words, a troll) , please just ignore. Every time you argue with them,
or invoke their name, you're stroking their (IMHO somewhat warped)
ego.
http://www.onlinenetiquette.com/courtesy9.html

I realize sometimes it's soooooooooooo tempting. But try to resist. If
you feel compelled to respond, no one can't stop you. But please don't
quote trolls , it puts their words in front of those who have kill-
filed them
5)New Folks: you're here to learn, right? So if someone who has been
on
AFW for years and serious about wine for 30+ corrects you, learn from
it,
don't get your feelings hurt.
6) Old folks : remember you were new (to wine and AFW) at some point,
too. Correct if need be, but let's try to do so graciously.
7) Personally, I find it less than helpful to make generalizations
about people based on what country they live in , their occupation,
etc. People who invoke offensive off-topic subjects on a regular
basis deserve to be killfiled, period.
8) No one is superior (In My Humble Opinion) based on either the
simplicity or elegance of what they eat or drink. Isn't this group big
enough for someone to have Shiraz with BBQed chicken and another to
have rack of lamb with a fine Pauillac? Does it somehow offend you to
read about a meal you wouldn't eat yourself? If someone says that
they
will not drink certain types of wines, don't waste your time worrying
about their opinions of those wines, listen to those that do.
9)Newbies: we welcome your participation (this is speaking as someone
who has participated for a few years, I'm neither a true old-timer or
a newbie). But as in ANY social situation, whether on or off line, it
is wisest not to attack a member of a community while a newbie, it
really won't win you any points. It is a time-honored tradition that
one should lurk for a while before posting to get a feel re tone of a
group.
10)Most of the people here use their real names Some use a pseudonym,
but do include a valid email address or other means to validate their
existence in the physical plane. As to others, I personally don't
feel that it's wise to put TOO much energy into conversations with
those who are unaccountable and unreachable. This is especially true
if that person doesn't have a Usenet track record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

As they say,YMMV.

So there. As usual, I'm sure I've offended a couple of old-timers and
a
couple of newbies, but hope the rest of you can take these remarks to
heart. I don't claim to be immune to digression;all I'm asking is
that
we try to keep these guidelines in mind.

best wishes,
Dale

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DaleW wrote on 27 Mar 2007 06:45:01 -0700:

D> A few thoughts (from previous courtesy posts):
D> 1) This is Usenet , a tool for discussion. Don't expect to
D> So there. As usual, I'm sure I've offended a couple of
D> old-timers and a
D> couple of newbies, but hope the rest of you can take these
D> remarks to heart. I don't claim to be immune to
D> digression;all I'm asking is that
D> we try to keep these guidelines in mind.

Thanks Dale!

I find myself in essentially complete agreement. I may have
apparently transgressed in the past but it was accidental.
"Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by
stupidity!"

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

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