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"collateral included deaths in organic rice production [faq]"
"Rupert" > wrote > > Dutch wrote: >> > That's discrimination on the basis of individual characteristics which >> > are held to be morally relevant, not discrimination on the basis of >> > species. It's not speciesism. >> >> Bullshit, it's not individual, it can't possibly be, you can't interview >> every fly, snail, or cockroach. It is dismissal of entire species based >> on >> the knowledge that NONE of them can possibly possess capabilities beyond >> a >> particular rudimentary level. People who dismiss mosquitos as irrelevant >> do >> so using the exact same kind of speciesist logic as those who dismiss >> chickens. We do so because we correctly ascertain that NO CHICKEN can >> possibly exist beyond a certain level of "sentience". > > It is on the basis of individual characteristics, rather than on the > basis of what is typical for their species or the characteristics the > best representative of their species has. Have you ever examined an individual of any of the above animal species to determine what it's *individual capacities* are? Of course not, there is no possible means or ability to do it to one, much less all. The only way, and it is a very accurate one, is to determine the species and attribute the characteristics generally of that species to each individual. |
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