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Vagan question, getting started.
<dh@.> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 00:36:02 +0100, "pearl" > wrote: > > ><dh@.> wrote in message ... > >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:28:14 +0100, "pearl" > wrote: > >> > >> ><dh@.> wrote in message ... > >> >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:19:46 +0100, Derek > wrote: > >> > > >> >> >>> Claim and Standard: > >> >> >>> [sbull] Grass Fed.--Grass, green or range pasture, or > >> >> >>> forage shall be 80% or more of the primary energy > >> >> >>> source throughout the animal's life cycle. > >> > > >> >> I don't doubt it in regards to the grass fed label, but > >> >> if you're right that ALL cattle in the feed lot are 80% grass > >> >> fed, that is GREAT! I already felt good about eating beef, > >> >> and if you're right we can all feel even better about it :-) > >> > > >> >'The 7 billion livestock animals in the United States consume > >> >five times as much grain as is consumed directly by the entire > >> >American population. > >> > >> The American population would consume a lot more > >> grain if we didn't eat meat. > > > >Americans are already consuming too much grain in their diet. > > > >15.75m hectares in total would be needed for a vegan population. > > > >> >.. > >> >More than 302 million hectares of land are devoted to > >> >producing feed for the U.S. livestock population -- about > >> >272 million hectares in pasture and about 30 million hectares > >> >for cultivated feed grains. > >> > >> Good enough. > > > >No.. very bad indeed. > > > >'The Forest Service defines range as "land that provides or is capable > >of providing forage for grazing or browsing animals [read: 'livestock']." > >By this definition more than 80% of the West qualifies as range, > >including a complex array of more than 40 major ecosystem types, > >all of which have been significantly degraded by ranching. .. > >.. > >Numerous historical accounts do confirm drastic, detrimental changes > >in plant and animal life, soil, water, and fire conditions throughout most > >of the West. These reports progressively establish livestock grazing as > >the biggest single perpetrator of these changes, particularly considering > >that it was the only significant land use over most of the West. > > How would it be better if they were growing corn and soy beans > instead....if they could? 15.75m hectares in total would be needed for a vegan population. 30 million hectares are at present used just to produce feed grains. In addition, 272 million hectares are grazed - over 50% overgrazed, and/or forage crops like hay (which is fertilized, sprayed, harvested..) Over 302 million hectares land is used for the U.S. livestock industry. 15.75m hectares in total would be needed for a vegan population. That would leave 299 million hectares of US land to revert to Natural habitat, allowing N. American native species / ecosystems to recover. Read that a few times before replying dh. Try to understand it.. |
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