George Plimpton > wrote in
:

>> From which other animals is leather harvested?
>
> Are you incapable of keying the word "leather" into a search engine and

I wanted an answer dealing with group issues, posted to
alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.

> No, it isn't. No one who writes in (more or less)
> grammatically correct English as you do can exhibit
> such utter ignorance of livestock husbandry and the
> products obtained from livestock.

You would - I hope - be amazed at how crap some people's educations can be.
My school was adjacent to a cattle farm, but I have no idea what happens to
them apart from what I've seen on television. One of my former teachers is
currently serving 21 years for child abuse.

>> I hear they still boil lobsters alive.
>
> I thought you were interested in leather?

Yes.

> Do you not know anything about the production of meat?

Apart from the obvious, probably not. I saw a television programme in the
middle of the year that claimed the average Hot Dog has 0% meat, so maybe
I'm not alone.

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On 12/27/2011 3:08 PM, Jahbulon wrote:
> George > wrote in
> :
>
>>> From which other animals is leather harvested?
>>
>> Are you incapable of keying the word "leather" into a search engine and
>
> I wanted an answer dealing with group issues, posted to
> alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.

"group issues" - what's that supposed to mean?


>> No, it isn't. No one who writes in (more or less)
>> grammatically correct English as you do can exhibit
>> such utter ignorance of livestock husbandry and the
>> products obtained from livestock.
>
> You would - I hope - be amazed at how crap some people's educations can be.
> My school was adjacent to a cattle farm, but I have no idea what happens to
> them apart from what I've seen on television. One of my former teachers is
> currently serving 21 years for child abuse.

No matter how crappy your formal education, the questions you're asking
make you seem not just poorly educated, but frankly clueless, and
seemingly incapable of doing the normal information-seeking that the
vast majority of people find easy and routine.



>>> I hear they still boil lobsters alive.
>>
>> I thought you were interested in leather?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Do you not know anything about the production of meat?
>
> Apart from the obvious, probably not. I saw a television programme in the
> middle of the year that claimed the average Hot Dog has 0% meat, so maybe
> I'm not alone.

Hot dogs and most other sausages are primarily meat. You need better
news sources.

George Plimpton > wrote in
:

>> I wanted an answer dealing with group issues,
>> posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.
>
> "group issues" - what's that supposed to mean?

Vegetarian animal ethics.

> No matter how crappy your formal education, the questions
> you're asking make you seem not just poorly educated, but
> frankly clueless, and seemingly incapable of doing the
> normal information-seeking that the vast majority of
> people find easy and routine.

I note you comments.

> Hot dogs and most other sausages are primarily meat.
> You need better news sources.

Hot dogs are cartilage and so on.

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then they fight you, then you win"

On 12/27/2011 5:58 PM, Jahbulon wrote:
> George > wrote in
> :
>
>>> I wanted an answer dealing with group issues,
>>> posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.
>>
>> "group issues" - what's that supposed to mean?
>
> Vegetarian animal ethics.

What's the group? Who are they?


>> No matter how crappy your formal education, the questions
>> you're asking make you seem not just poorly educated, but
>> frankly clueless, and seemingly incapable of doing the
>> normal information-seeking that the vast majority of
>> people find easy and routine.
>
> I note you comments.

Yes, they're implicitly quite critical of you.


>> Hot dogs and most other sausages are primarily meat.
>> You need better news sources.
>
> Hot dogs are cartilage and so on.

No, mostly they're meat.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...nts-explained/

George Plimpton > wrote in
:

>>>> I wanted an answer dealing with group issues,
>>>> posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.
>>>
>>> "group issues" - what's that supposed to mean?
>>
>> Vegetarian animal ethics.
>
> What's the group? Who are they?

It's the group to which I sent my original post,
alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.

>>> No matter how crappy your formal education, the
>>> questions you're asking make you seem not just
>>> poorly educated, but frankly clueless, and
>>> seemingly incapable of doing the normal
>>> information-seeking that the vast majority of
>>> people find easy and routine.
>>
>> I note you comments.
>
> Yes, they're implicitly quite critical of you.

Not really. You say I was born clueless, in some ways incapable and was
not given a proper education. None of those would be my fault.

>>> Hot dogs and most other sausages are primarily
>>> meat. You need better news sources.
>>
>> Hot dogs are cartilage and so on.
>
> No, mostly they're meat.

Your understanding of meat includes, "paste-like and batter-like poultry
product, produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a
sieve or similar device under high pressure."

Seems to me that is far better described as cartilage and so on, but don't
let me stop you calling it meat.

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"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you,
then they fight you, then you win"

On 12/27/2011 6:49 PM, Jahbulon wrote:
> George > wrote in
> :
>
>>>>> I wanted an answer dealing with group issues,
>>>>> posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.
>>>>
>>>> "group issues" - what's that supposed to mean?
>>>
>>> Vegetarian animal ethics.
>>
>> What's the group? Who are they?
>
> It's the group to which I sent my original post,
> alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.

Who are they? What are "group" issues? Who do you imagine shares those
issues? Why won't you answer basic questions?


>>>> No matter how crappy your formal education, the
>>>> questions you're asking make you seem not just
>>>> poorly educated, but frankly clueless, and
>>>> seemingly incapable of doing the normal
>>>> information-seeking that the vast majority of
>>>> people find easy and routine.
>>>
>>> I note you comments.
>>
>> Yes, they're implicitly quite critical of you.
>
> Not really.

Yes, really.


> You say I was born clueless, in some ways incapable and was
> not given a proper education. None of those would be my fault.

They're all your fault, now.


>>>> Hot dogs and most other sausages are primarily
>>>> meat. You need better news sources.
>>>
>>> Hot dogs are cartilage and so on.
>>
>> No, mostly they're meat.
>
> Your understanding of meat includes, "paste-like and batter-like poultry
> product, produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a
> sieve or similar device under high pressure."

That only applied to the turkey; not to the beef and pork.

Nice try. Well, not really, but you're revealing more and more about
yourself with each snarky post. Of course, I knew all of it even before
you revealed it.

George Plimpton > wrote in
:

>>>>>> I wanted an answer dealing with group issues,
>>>>>> posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.
>>>>>
>>>>> "group issues" - what's that supposed to mean?
>>>>
>>>> Vegetarian animal ethics.
>>>
>>> What's the group? Who are they?
>>
>> It's the group to which I sent my original post,
>> alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian.
>
> Who are they?

Why can't you ask the person who is using the word?

> What are "group" issues?

Vegetarian animal ethics.

> Who do you imagine shares
> those issues?

I don't imagine.

> Why won't you answer basic questions?

I seem to manage a better job than you.

>>> Yes, they're implicitly quite critical of you.
>>
>> Not really.
>
> Yes, really.

Lets agree that you tried and failed.

>> You say I was born clueless, in some ways incapable and was
>> not given a proper education. None of those would be my fault.
>
> They're all your fault, now.

How have the circumstances of my birth become my fault?

>> Your understanding of meat includes, "paste-like and batter-like
>> poultry product, produced by forcing bones, with attached edible
>> tissue, through a sieve or similar device under high pressure."
>
> That only applied to the turkey; not to the beef and pork.

It's the main ingredient, that's the reason it was listed first. Didn't
you know that?

> Of course, I knew all of it even
> before you revealed it.

Of course.

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then they fight you, then you win"