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Facts we should *not* consider.
rectal suppository wrote:
>>The fact that ****wit wants to disregard: we all see >>through your lamebrained, ****witted trick to try to >>"promote life" for farm animals irrespective of the >>quality of life. > > Excellent, Cash Cow! Tell this asshole! > > I discussed the loads and loads of insanity spewed by Usual Suspect > and others on this newsgroup to my father, who is NOT a vegetarian. What have I written that is insanity? > Even he realizes the insanity of Rick Etter and others who deny > that being vegetarian will reduce the number of animals both killed > and who suffer. A vegetarian diet only ensures animals may not be *eaten*, not that they will not be killed collaterally. Grain planting and harvesting are particularly lethal for animals. See the first pic on the page linked below. Add to that the use of pesticides, which are used even in organic farming, transportation, etc., no food is free of animal deaths or suffering. http://www.bds.org.uk/Research/Silag...entperrier.htm > They do so by repeated proclamation, as if they say something enough > times, a million times, it will becaome true. That is one of the major > tenets of debunking -- an irrational form of discourse. Such tautology is the practice of people like you, who assume that because meat is not *eaten* that animals are not killed. You forget the fact that animals range in farmland, and farmland is harvested using machinery. You must count the animals who get run over by combines, flooded by irrigation, or killed by pesticides in your assessments of suffering and death. You choose not to do this, and instead repeat your proclamations that because you do not *eat* animals that you are morally responsible for preventing harm to them. Nothing could be further from the truth. Eating venison causes the death of one deer. How many were run over, like the fawn in the pic, harvesting your wheat, rice, or corn? *That* is the issue. Deal with it. > The cartoon character Zap Brannigan on the great tv show, "Futurama", > is NO exaggeration with > his insane jabbering and blaming OTHERS for HIS enormous screw-ups. Funny that you would presume to take the high road in this debate and then allude to cartoon characters. Running out of ammo? > Rick Etter and Usual Suspect have Zap Brannigan beat. I've never seen this show to which you allude (only promos), so I can only make my a priori assessments about your watching cartoons. How old are you, anyway? |
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"usual suspect" > wrote in message .. . > rectal suppository wrote: > >>The fact that ****wit wants to disregard: we all see > >>through your lamebrained, ****witted trick to try to > >>"promote life" for farm animals irrespective of the > >>quality of life. > > > > Excellent, Cash Cow! Tell this asshole! > > > > I discussed the loads and loads of insanity spewed by Usual Suspect > > and others on this newsgroup to my father, who is NOT a vegetarian. > > What have I written that is insanity? > > > Even he realizes the insanity of Rick Etter and others who deny > > that being vegetarian will reduce the number of animals both killed > > and who suffer. > > A vegetarian diet only ensures animals may not be *eaten*, not that they > will not be killed collaterally. Grain planting and harvesting are > particularly lethal for animals. See the first pic on the page linked > below. Add to that the use of pesticides, which are used even in organic > farming, transportation, etc., no food is free of animal deaths or > suffering. ==================== At least now we know he comes by his stupidity naturally.... > > http://www.bds.org.uk/Research/Silag...entperrier.htm > > > They do so by repeated proclamation, as if they say something enough > > times, a million times, it will becaome true. That is one of the major > > tenets of debunking -- an irrational form of discourse. > > Such tautology is the practice of people like you, who assume that > because meat is not *eaten* that animals are not killed. You forget the > fact that animals range in farmland, and farmland is harvested using > machinery. You must count the animals who get run over by combines, > flooded by irrigation, or killed by pesticides in your assessments of > suffering and death. You choose not to do this, and instead repeat your > proclamations that because you do not *eat* animals that you are morally > responsible for preventing harm to them. Nothing could be further from > the truth. Eating venison causes the death of one deer. How many were > run over, like the fawn in the pic, harvesting your wheat, rice, or > corn? *That* is the issue. Deal with it. > > > The cartoon character Zap Brannigan on the great tv show, "Futurama", > > is NO exaggeration with > > his insane jabbering and blaming OTHERS for HIS enormous screw-ups. > > Funny that you would presume to take the high road in this debate and > then allude to cartoon characters. Running out of ammo? > > > Rick Etter and Usual Suspect have Zap Brannigan beat. > > I've never seen this show to which you allude (only promos), so I can > only make my a priori assessments about your watching cartoons. How old > are you, anyway? > |
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Hey usual suspect,
I'm curious as to why you stick around this list. Do you really think you're changing minds/making people think new thoughts etc? (I'm not trying to be an ass, here, I'm just curious.) -Jay |
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Facts we should *not* consider.
Jay wrote:
> I'm curious as to why you stick around this list. Do you really think you're > changing minds/making people think new thoughts etc? (I'm not trying to be > an ass, here, I'm just curious.) I'm here mainly for recipes and fun. |
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