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Nix the 'shrooms, we need another M for the evil list
I came across a strange book. A 28 day detox diet and exercise book. It was written by a female journalist, this was the full extent of her credentials, the sole reason why women should trust her advice. It explained which foods are full of toxins and make women fat and which are safe, without ever mentioning what these “toxins” were or why they might be accumulating in women's bodies in a way that requires them not to eat tomatoes, peanuts (but any other nut you might have heard of is OK), red meat, alcohol, cow's milk (any other species is fine apparently - water vole?) “additives”, mushrooms, bread, lentils, oranges or sugar. There was no adequate explanation also for why it is recommended to eat tuna, raspberries, monkfish, spring onions, alfalfa, dill, chillies, mackerel, seaweed, walnut oil, miso mustard (whatever that is) and balsamic vinegar. Why should balsamic vinegar be recommended, isn't it full of these mysterious unnamed toxins? If you know anything about how it is made it should be obvious that it contains lots of substances that, in the food of the urban poor, would be called contaminants and toxins. Why would cider vinegar be recommended but no mention given of regular (barley ale derived) vinegar? Is there any science in this stuff at all or is it all Hocus Pocus? Foods seem to be listed if they contain “an abundance of vitamins and minerals” and put on the blacklist if they contain “toxins and additives”. If toxins are a problem why is there a recommendation that “smoked fish is fine provided it has been treated naturally.” What does that mean? Naturally soaked in salt and saltpetre (the nice old fashioned name for potassium nitrate, an “evil preservative”, E252, and active ingredient in gunpowder) then hung up in a rat-infested old smokehouse while carcinogenic wood-smoke is played over it. Apparently freezing depletes fish of its essential nutrients, I can only guess that this is the work of freezer goblins, I wonder if Captain Birds Eye knows about it. On the recommended foods list are lemons, limes and grapefruit. Oranges are on the foods to avoid list, along with both sugar and artificial sweeteners, no explanation is offered for this. Enjoy your unsweetened lemons girls. The text of the book says lentils are to be avoided, the photos feature lentils. Spinach is the only green vegetable on the foods to avoid list, with not one word of explanation as to why. Neither is there any explanation of what terrible toxins are to be found in bananas (banned) but not in plantains (recommended). Further on in the book that says oranges, bananas and red meat are to be avoided are recipes for chilli con carne and the suggestion that people should eat fruit, such as oranges or a banana whenever they feel peckish during the day rather than crisps, despite the fact that it recommends potatoes and sunflower seeds as good food. Peanuts and salt are not to be eaten, you are supposed to make a body scrub out of peanut butter and sea salt instead. The fat spirits can't diffuse through the skin it seems. I picture a meeting in a smoke filled office, as a group of female journalists, Ab Fab types, one says “what about mushrooms?” Patsy pouts, stubs out her fag and says “Nix the 'shrooms, we need another M for the evil list. Is there any more Bolly left in that bucket darling?” Another thing these women's magazine scientists never explain is how the body knows whether something rubbed onto the skin is supposed to be absorbed into the skin, diffuse into the bloodstream or wash away surface impurities. Does it depend which way you rub it in? Apparently rubbing aromatherapy oils on the skin leads to the substances being absorbed by the body, which does not happen for ingredients in cosmetics, or even the very same chemicals when used as perfumes. I suppose because when she drew the diagram the woman who came up with the idea put the arrows on one and not on the other. The same goes for hair products; rubbing a shampoo into the hair removes stuff from the hair, rubbing a conditioner adds stuff into the hair, it is all down to the arrows on the diagram they take down in beauty college when they don't get the right qualifications to study a science subject. I found another food book, The Food Doctor, written by a man (!) and a woman who are both "Dip ION"s which I presume means a Diploma from the Institute of Nutrition. A Diploma is of a lesser category than a degree. If a Diploma in nutrition makes them Food Doctors my BA must make me a Consultant Political Artist. It seems to me that much of this “woman's wisdom” is based on outdated philosophies of dualism. Food contains good or bad spirits. If you take sunflower seeds and potatoes from mother nature's larder they are full of good spirits. Put them into a factory staffed by fat working class people from your country and equipped with stainless steel vats the good spirits leave the food and evil science spirits and urban poor spirits get in to take their place. (You can call these toxins, nobody knows what it means, you're safe.) In contrast if you take mother nature's bounty from another part of the world and put it in a “traditional craftsman's kitchen” (rat infested rural outhouse) staffed by working class people who don't speak your language (or at least don't have the same accents as the poor kids who used to pick on you in the street) then the good spirits in the food are joined with new good spirits, especially those that reside in the inedible wood of crusted old casks. The people who first made balsamic vinegar, or wine, or whisky didn't put it in wooden casks to enhance the flavour, they did it because cheap easy to sterilize stainless steel tanks weren't available. We can do better now. We don't have to contaminate our food with tannins from inedible wood and carcinogenic traces from burning the bloody things as being the only way to maintain hygiene. When there is odourless methane gas available by the gigalitre off the Scottish coast why do the scotch whisky makers insist on contaminating their malted barley with carcinogenic smoke from burning peat? So their falling down juice is seen to be inhabited with tradition and rural craftsmanship spirits. This is even more of a scandal because the peat is a declining habitat for threatened flora and fauna. Whisky was made with peat-smoke cured barley and peaty water for the same reason prison hooch is made from potato peelings: it's all they had and they wanted to get drunk cheaply. Can't we do any better now? What the hell is cider vinegar anyway? Nobody made cider vinegar on purpose, if some yokel's hygiene standards weren't up to scratch he'd lose a batch of his much needed tipple to the ever-present menace of the vinegar flies (Class: Insecta Order: Diptera Family: Drosophilidae) and give the muck to his wife to clean the drains or whatever she wants to do with the bloody undrinkable stuff. People didn't make cider vinegar on purpose just as they didn't make stale bread, cold tea, sour cream or horse manure on purpose. Why if you appreciate the taste of berries in your wine don't you make the stuff with a few of those berries you like the taste of? No, berries don't have the right bullshit tradition spirit, do they? The skill in winemaking apparently comes in making fermented pure grape juice taste contaminated with something else that isn't there. Barking mad. The world is barking mad. -- Martin Willett http://mwillett.org/ |
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Mr. Wallet is at it again!
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nemo wrote:
> Mr. Wallet is at it again! > > Who is supposed to be paying me this time and for what possible reason? -- Martin Willett http://mwillett.org/ |
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![]() "Martin Willett" > wrote in message ... > nemo wrote: > > Mr. Wallet is at it again! > > > > > > Who is supposed to be paying me this time and for what possible reason? > Why not come clean and tell us? |
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nemo wrote:
> "Martin Willett" > wrote in message > ... >> nemo wrote: >>> Mr. Wallet is at it again! >>> >>> >> Who is supposed to be paying me this time and for what possible reason? >> > Why not come clean and tell us? > > <snipped other groups> What is there to say? I have explained exactly what I am doing here to you before. If you are too stupid or prejudiced to understand that it isn't my problem. To reiterate the posts I am making have three motivations: 1 ] To annoy religious charlatan Michael Rippie by rendering his newsgroup alt.religion.the-last-church useless as a tool for his propaganda by filling it up with debates he is too stupid and ignorant to be able to contribute to thereby burying his own pathetic efforts and ensuring that nobody is ever taken in by him. "alt.religion.thelastchurch and alt.religion.the-last-church Ask your ISP to give you access to these two News Groups. The first is for direct communication with TLC and the second is for your personal use in any manor [sic] you see fit." That looks pretty watertight to me. 2 ] To have 100% genuine honest on-topic discussions with interesting people, saying what I mean, meaning what I say and being open to persuasion if I come across a better argument. i.e . I enjoy doing this, what you see is what you get 3 ] Promoting my website and forum by getting people interested in me as a writer and original thinker and thereby further spreading my ideas out into the world. Yes I am doing this for propaganda. Are you not? Yes I am enjoying it. Are you not? Just take a look at alt.religion.the-last-church and see for yourself, what I am saying is true. I have no side to me, I am honest and transparent almost to the point of absurdity. You see me making posts about food because that is the subject in the group you monitor. You don't see me arguing with Republicans, Christians, nudists, feminists, libertarians and so on because you only look in the one group. If you want me to crosspost EVERYTHING to alt.food.vegan just me give the word. No, that would be wrong and it would be annoying to vegans, which is not my agenda. How many people do you believe are paid to make posts on newsgroups? I tell you what if somebody did want to pay me for posting my own opinions on newsgroups I'd be as happy as a pig in shit and I'd gladly work 15 hours a day 7 days a week. But it doesn't happen in the real world. I am glad you think my writing is impressive enough to be the work of a professional but I assure you your suspicions are purely a product of your over-active and paranoid imagination. I am good at what I am doing because I have had lots of practice, and I have had lots of practice because I enjoy it. Here is some records of previous newsgroup discussions: http://mwillett.org/Matters/makingnews.htm http://mwillett.org/Matters/makingnews2.htm http://mwillett.org/Matters/makingnews3.htm http://mwillett.org/Matters/makingnews4.htm http://mwillett.org/Matters/makingnews5.htm http://mwillett.org/Matters/makingnews6.htm http://mwillett.org/Matters/aborting-babies.htm -- Martin Willett http://mwillett.org/ |
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Michael Rippie wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:15:45 GMT, "nemo" > wrote: > >> Why not come clean and tell us? > > He is paid by the man who owns his site. mwillett.org is not owned > by Martin Willett. He pays me too? Wow. That's kind. You are half right, the site is donated but as to why it was donated I have no idea. If an editor knows what his proprietor thinks he can be biased in that direction. I don't ask. It works fine. -- Martin Willett http://mwillett.org/ |
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