I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.

I am putting it in the food group because its food related in that I think
there's three issues.

one is a hormonal making me sensitive the other is two trusted food products
let me down.

so the combo made my bg the highest its ever been in years.

what made me mad was I'm a routine eater..I eat pretty much the exact same
meals every day so unless I am sick my bg is always the same.

about 83-93

last week it was yo-yoing as high as 200 it was crazy and I had zero idea
why

so I went thru ever food I was eating and found those meatballs spiked not
only me but my wife who isn't a diabetic

so I figured that solved that..

but I was still getting highs and lows and eating next to zero carbs it made
zero sense

I got so desperate I was eating just plain chicken breast and boiled eggs to
figure it out and I was still spiking.

then I realized it was my coffee!

so I removed the splenda...still a spike..removed the splash heavy
cream..spike...so it was spiking me bad just black.

weirdest thing ever!

so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!

this was aldis brand copy of dunkin doughnuts coffee..

it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
does..don't know why

maybe the pesticides used on those farms?

but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal

anyhoo was weird

KROM

"KROM" > wrote:
> I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
> [ . . . . ]
> it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
> does..don't know why
>
> maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
>
> but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
>
> anyhoo was weird

I drink a lot of coffee; maybe a quart and a half a day. Mostly, they get
Folgers or Kirkland for me. I love Kona coffee (you know, it's an Arabica),
but it's too pricey for me to have more than occasionally. The best I've
found is from www.smithfarms.com/. The owners, Cecilia (Cea) and Bob are
nice people, too. If you contact them, tell them I said, "Hi!"

How do you control your BG?

--
Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
families: https://semperfifund.org https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/
http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ ~Semper Fi~
http://www.woundedwarriors.ca/ http://www.legacy.com.au/ ~Semper Fi~

I love my coffee and have never had this reaction to it before.

the reason I went from my Kona to the other was it was half the cost..lol

I am lucky in that the Kona I get here is reasonable at 6 bucks for a 13
ounce bag..its actually cheaper the folders in the same size bag..the aldi's
dunking doughnuts rip off was 3 bucks a bag.

before the stupid meatballs and coffee fiasco I was controlling with just
one met a day in the morning and exercise ad my steady diet.

now because it sent me off so bad its like starting from scratch..probably
be a week or so for my body to get back on track...hopefully perm damage was
done.

sigh..

KROM


"Nick Cramer" wrote in message ...

"KROM" > wrote:
> I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
> [ . . . . ]
> it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
> does..don't know why
>
> maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
>
> but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
>
> anyhoo was weird

I drink a lot of coffee; maybe a quart and a half a day. Mostly, they get
Folgers or Kirkland for me. I love Kona coffee (you know, it's an Arabica),
but it's too pricey for me to have more than occasionally. The best I've
found is from www.smithfarms.com/. The owners, Cecilia (Cea) and Bob are
nice people, too. If you contact them, tell them I said, "Hi!"

How do you control your BG?

--
Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their
families: https://semperfifund.org https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/
http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ ~Semper Fi~
http://www.woundedwarriors.ca/ http://www.legacy.com.au/ ~Semper Fi~

On 1/10/2012 12:39 PM, KROM wrote:
> now because it sent me off so bad its like starting from
> scratch..probably be a week or so for my body to get back on
> track...hopefully no perm damage was done.
>
> sigh..
>
> KROM

oh ya, the body sure likes to hold on to those higher levels doesn't it?
All part of the human body system that we need to learn to live with.

short term bg spikes shouldn't cause perm damage, but they are
theorizing that statement, no real proof, as Gys noted in his post on ASD

kate

On 1/9/2012 3:06 PM, KROM wrote:
> I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
>
> I am putting it in the food group because its food related in that I
> think there's three issues.
>
> one is a hormonal making me sensitive the other is two trusted food
> products let me down.
>
> so the combo made my bg the highest its ever been in years.
>
> what made me mad was I'm a routine eater..I eat pretty much the exact
> same meals every day so unless I am sick my bg is always the same.
>
> about 83-93
>
> last week it was yo-yoing as high as 200 it was crazy and I had zero
> idea why
>
> so I went thru ever food I was eating and found those meatballs spiked
> not only me but my wife who isn't a diabetic
>
> so I figured that solved that..
>
> but I was still getting highs and lows and eating next to zero carbs it
> made zero sense
>
> I got so desperate I was eating just plain chicken breast and boiled
> eggs to figure it out and I was still spiking.
>
> then I realized it was my coffee!
>
> so I removed the splenda...still a spike..removed the splash heavy
> cream..spike...so it was spiking me bad just black.
>
> weirdest thing ever!
>
> so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
> tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
> brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
>
> this was aldis brand copy of dunkin doughnuts coffee..
>
> it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
> does..don't know why
>
> maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
>
> but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
>
> anyhoo was weird
>
> KROM
>

some mysteries just don't ever make sense do they?

i know when i was first diagnosed with diabetes, i was NOT allowed to
drink coffee

that lasted until i got out of hospital!

stress/adrenaline can either significantly raise OR lower my bg
levels...... i do see a correlation with positive stress/lower bg and
negative stress/higher bg

having said that....... the stress response isn't 100%, i have to be on
my toes and test/correct/test as need be

glad you found the meatballs were causing a problem, wonder how much
sugar they put in them! sigh

kate

normally caffeine and pretty much anything with a ratio of 30 carb 40
protein and 30 percent fat wont spike me unless it’s a dead simple carb like
candy.

I am a simple eater though so rarely change my diet I could eat three peanut
butter sandwiches a day for the rest of my life...I might crave chocolate or
steak time to time but rarely.

its funny because I love food and I love to cook but if I was told all I
could ever eat for the rest of my life was pork chops for all meals id not
be that bothered by it.

those meatballs were labeled as one carb per serving and rest protein and
fat which should never spike me ever.

they did and even spiked my wife who isn't a diabetic...was crazy.

once I figured out it was them and the coffee I cut those out but am still
so carb sensitive that even a splash of heavy cream can spike me.

Stress will raise me but only extreme stress and I am glad to say not had
that often

KROM


"Tiger Lily" wrote in message ...

On 1/9/2012 3:06 PM, KROM wrote:
> I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
>
> I am putting it in the food group because its food related in that I
> think there's three issues.
>
> one is a hormonal making me sensitive the other is two trusted food
> products let me down.
>
> so the combo made my bg the highest its ever been in years.
>
> what made me mad was I'm a routine eater..I eat pretty much the exact
> same meals every day so unless I am sick my bg is always the same.
>
> about 83-93
>
> last week it was yo-yoing as high as 200 it was crazy and I had zero
> idea why
>
> so I went thru ever food I was eating and found those meatballs spiked
> not only me but my wife who isn't a diabetic
>
> so I figured that solved that..
>
> but I was still getting highs and lows and eating next to zero carbs it
> made zero sense
>
> I got so desperate I was eating just plain chicken breast and boiled
> eggs to figure it out and I was still spiking.
>
> then I realized it was my coffee!
>
> so I removed the splenda...still a spike..removed the splash heavy
> cream..spike...so it was spiking me bad just black.
>
> weirdest thing ever!
>
> so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
> tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
> brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
>
> this was aldis brand copy of dunkin doughnuts coffee..
>
> it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
> does..don't know why
>
> maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
>
> but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
>
> anyhoo was weird
>
> KROM
>

some mysteries just don't ever make sense do they?

i know when i was first diagnosed with diabetes, i was NOT allowed to
drink coffee

that lasted until i got out of hospital!

stress/adrenaline can either significantly raise OR lower my bg
levels...... i do see a correlation with positive stress/lower bg and
negative stress/higher bg

having said that....... the stress response isn't 100%, i have to be on
my toes and test/correct/test as need be

glad you found the meatballs were causing a problem, wonder how much
sugar they put in them! sigh

kate

On 1/11/2012 2:50 PM, KROM wrote:
> normally caffeine and pretty much anything with a ratio of 30 carb 40
> protein and 30 percent fat wont spike me unless it’s a dead simple carb
> like candy.
>
> I am a simple eater though so rarely change my diet I could eat three
> peanut butter sandwiches a day for the rest of my life...I might crave
> chocolate or steak time to time but rarely.
>
> its funny because I love food and I love to cook but if I was told all I
> could ever eat for the rest of my life was pork chops for all meals id
> not be that bothered by it.
>
> those meatballs were labeled as one carb per serving and rest protein
> and fat which should never spike me ever.
>
> they did and even spiked my wife who isn't a diabetic...was crazy.
>
> once I figured out it was them and the coffee I cut those out but am
> still so carb sensitive that even a splash of heavy cream can spike me.
>
> Stress will raise me but only extreme stress and I am glad to say not
> had that often
>
> KROM

KROM

I'm stuck on those meatballs......... were they full of sulphates and
sulphites? Allergies will raise my bg in foods that shouldn't do that
at all......... found that one out the hard way.

jus thinkin

kate

I have eaten the same meatballs many times they were a new product and as
usual were made with real ingredient etc to hook you and now have gone cheap
using fillers and delivering a barely meat ..meatball with the same
label..and I am sure if called on it would be forced to change the label.

as I said before it happens all the time with products.

look at Twinkies...they want to know why they aren't popular and the
business is failed...well the simple answer is they messed them up..they are
gross..they aren't Twinkies anymore and haven't been for years.

the yummy sponge cake made yellow from egg yolks is now a weird wet
substance that’s colored with chemicals and the cream which was once real
cream is now Crisco and high fructose corn syrup.

its gross..everyone says its gross..but its cheaper for them to make it fake
and probably far longer shelf life .

my last Twinkie about ten years ago was gross then and I hear its worse
now...yuk

the meatballs were bland and weird textured and clearly changed from the
"get ya hooked" version

KROM




"Tiger Lily" wrote in message ...

On 1/11/2012 2:50 PM, KROM wrote:
> normally caffeine and pretty much anything with a ratio of 30 carb 40
> protein and 30 percent fat wont spike me unless it’s a dead simple carb
> like candy.
>
> I am a simple eater though so rarely change my diet I could eat three
> peanut butter sandwiches a day for the rest of my life...I might crave
> chocolate or steak time to time but rarely.
>
> its funny because I love food and I love to cook but if I was told all I
> could ever eat for the rest of my life was pork chops for all meals id
> not be that bothered by it.
>
> those meatballs were labeled as one carb per serving and rest protein
> and fat which should never spike me ever.
>
> they did and even spiked my wife who isn't a diabetic...was crazy.
>
> once I figured out it was them and the coffee I cut those out but am
> still so carb sensitive that even a splash of heavy cream can spike me.
>
> Stress will raise me but only extreme stress and I am glad to say not
> had that often
>
> KROM

KROM

I'm stuck on those meatballs......... were they full of sulphates and
sulphites? Allergies will raise my bg in foods that shouldn't do that
at all......... found that one out the hard way.

jus thinkin

kate

KROM > wrote:
: I have eaten the same meatballs many times they were a new product and as
: usual were made with real ingredient etc to hook you and now have gone cheap
: using fillers and delivering a barely meat ..meatball with the same
: label..and I am sure if called on it would be forced to change the label.

: as I said before it happens all the time with products.

: look at Twinkies...they want to know why they aren't popular and the
: business is failed...well the simple answer is they messed them up..they are
: gross..they aren't Twinkies anymore and haven't been for years.

: the yummy sponge cake made yellow from egg yolks is now a weird wet
: substance that?s colored with chemicals and the cream which was once real
: cream is now Crisco and high fructose corn syrup.

: its gross..everyone says its gross..but its cheaper for them to make it fake
: and probably far longer shelf life .

: my last Twinkie about ten years ago was gross then and I hear its worse
: now...yuk

: the meatballs were bland and weird textured and clearly changed from the
: "get ya hooked" version

: KROM

I have no memory of Twinkie ever having "real cream" or a real cream
tasste in the filling. They wee always regarded as pure junk food and we
kids loven them. They wee the first choice for out monthly birthday
parties when I was in th efourth grade, but we had to get the cupkakes
with hard icing and white filling because hey were a pack of 2 for 5Cents,
while the Teinkies cos twice as much and we each got 1 item along with
juice for those parties(alwasy held AFTER lunch).

I loved then at 9, but didn't once I became an adult.

Wendy

On 1/12/2012 12:40 PM, KROM wrote:
> I have eaten the same meatballs many times they were a new product and
> as usual were made with real ingredient etc to hook you and now have
> gone cheap using fillers and delivering a barely meat ..meatball with
> the same label..and I am sure if called on it would be forced to change
> the label.

tip: Ikea

>
> as I said before it happens all the time with products.
>
> look at Twinkies...they want to know why they aren't popular and the
> business is failed...well the simple answer is they messed them up..they
> are gross..they aren't Twinkies anymore and haven't been for years.
>
> the yummy sponge cake made yellow from egg yolks is now a weird wet
> substance that’s colored with chemicals and the cream which was once
> real cream is now Crisco and high fructose corn syrup.
>
> its gross..everyone says its gross..but its cheaper for them to make it
> fake and probably far longer shelf life .
>
> my last Twinkie about ten years ago was gross then and I hear its worse
> now...yuk

i tried a Twinkie in 1974........ (note: i didn't say i ATE it)
>
> the meatballs were bland and weird textured and clearly changed from the
> "get ya hooked" version
>
> KROM

yup, sigh

just another example of how one size does NOT fit all, and also an example
of what a responsible person you are, Lee
"KROM" > wrote in message ...
>I think I'm having the perfect storm of oddness going on with my BG.
>
> I am putting it in the food group because its food related in that I think
> there's three issues.
>
> one is a hormonal making me sensitive the other is two trusted food
> products let me down.
>
> so the combo made my bg the highest its ever been in years.
>
> what made me mad was I'm a routine eater..I eat pretty much the exact same
> meals every day so unless I am sick my bg is always the same.
>
> about 83-93
>
> last week it was yo-yoing as high as 200 it was crazy and I had zero idea
> why
>
> so I went thru ever food I was eating and found those meatballs spiked not
> only me but my wife who isn't a diabetic
>
> so I figured that solved that..
>
> but I was still getting highs and lows and eating next to zero carbs it
> made zero sense
>
> I got so desperate I was eating just plain chicken breast and boiled eggs
> to figure it out and I was still spiking.
>
> then I realized it was my coffee!
>
> so I removed the splenda...still a spike..removed the splash heavy
> cream..spike...so it was spiking me bad just black.
>
> weirdest thing ever!
>
> so I think maybe now caffeine spikes me..so I took a caffeine
> tablet..nothing...I tried instant coffee nothing...tried a different
> brand..nothing..tried that coffee again black..spike!
>
> this was aldis brand copy of dunkin doughnuts coffee..
>
> it seems that if I think on it Kona never bothers me at all..but Arabica
> does..don't know why
>
> maybe the pesticides used on those farms?
>
> but now that I stopped drinking it I'm back to normal
>
> anyhoo was weird
>
> KROM
>

nobody is going to do it for me and your right we are all our own machines
so I need to be vigilant to protect mine from harm.

Best part is once I figured it out it was a easy problem to solve and I am
back on track.

I like my Kona coffee better anyway so its all good..lol

:-)

KROM




"Storrmmee" wrote...

just another example of how one size does NOT fit all, and also an example
of what a responsible person you are, Lee

be proud of yourself, Lee
"KROM" > wrote in message ...
> nobody is going to do it for me and your right we are all our own machines
> so I need to be vigilant to protect mine from harm.
>
> Best part is once I figured it out it was a easy problem to solve and I am
> back on track.
>
> I like my Kona coffee better anyway so its all good..lol
>
> :-)
>
> KROM
>
>
>
>
> "Storrmmee" wrote...
>
> just another example of how one size does NOT fit all, and also an example
> of what a responsible person you are, Lee