On Apr 26, 11:13 am, teaholic > wrote:
> Mydnight wrote:
> > I never saw green tea rinsed before until I moved to Southern China.
> > The green tea I had drank before was beautifully clean...the stuff
> > here that you get may or may not contain pencil lead...
>
> > Buyer beware...really.
>
> Where was your previous location, with the clean green tea? Any sources
> for U.S. customers?

Before I lived in a far-away place in China's Western/Central Sichuan
province. Clean tea for export, I seriously doubt that would ever
occur.

There are NO organic standards in China that are credible. The best
thing they have come up with so far is little stickers that read
"organic" in Chinese and sometimes in English. It's meaningless.

There WILL NEVER be organic in China. As long as things are the way
they are here, you will always find people that can BUY their products
into the "organic" category. Maybe it's time to start looking into
Japanese teas more than Chinese teas.

Mydnight wrote:
> Before I lived in a far-away place in China's Western/Central Sichuan
> province. Clean tea for export, I seriously doubt that would ever
> occur.
>
> There are NO organic standards in China that are credible. The best
> thing they have come up with so far is little stickers that read
> "organic" in Chinese and sometimes in English. It's meaningless.
>
> There WILL NEVER be organic in China. As long as things are the way
> they are here, you will always find people that can BUY their products
> into the "organic" category. Maybe it's time to start looking into
> Japanese teas more than Chinese teas.
>

What do you think of BaoZhong, LiShan, or other Taiwan tea, as regards
pollution?

> What do you think of BaoZhong, LiShan, or other Taiwan tea, as regards
> pollution?

The Taiwanese claim that their teas are pure and that the Chinese use
additives. The Chinese claim that their teas are pure and that the
Taiwanese use additives. Your guess is as good as mine, but I am
honestly more predisposed to believe the Taiwanese because they have
higher standards with their teas and most products they make.

Mydnight wrote:
> The Taiwanese claim that their teas are pure and that the Chinese use
> additives. The Chinese claim that their teas are pure and that the
> Taiwanese use additives. Your guess is as good as mine, but I am
> honestly more predisposed to believe the Taiwanese because they have
> higher standards with their teas and most products they make.
>
Thank you.
I've ordered some Taiwan tea, and Shincha from Japan.

In the future I'll be sure to order my Chinese teas from Japan.
Problem solved.

Jim

On Apr 30, 9:46 pm, teaholic > wrote:
> Mydnight wrote:
> > The Taiwanese claim that their teas are pure and that the Chinese use
> > additives. The Chinese claim that their teas are pure and that the
> > Taiwanese use additives. Your guess is as good as mine, but I am
> > honestly more predisposed to believe the Taiwanese because they have
> > higher standards with their teas and most products they make.
>
> Thank you.
> I've ordered some Taiwan tea, and Shincha from Japan.

If you have any contacts for some suppliers in taiwan or japan I would
really like to get hold of them as I would like to source some nice
quality teas in bulk. I have found several suppliers in China, I like
the oolong teas from taiwan, and the chinese version of genmaicha and
sencha are planets apart. Any merchants or comments here would be
nice, thanks'
Maurice

Space Cowboy wrote:
> In the future I'll be sure to order my Chinese teas from Japan.
> Problem solved.
>
> Jim

The Taiwan Baozhong tea was ordered from Stéphane Erler in Taiwan,
stephane_erler at yahoo.com
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/

The Japanese fresh green tea was ordered from Japan
http://www.zencha.net/

The Baozhong is very good. The free puerh sample was also very good.

The Shincha hasn't arrived yet.

On Apr 27, 12:43 am, Mydnight > wrote:

> Before I lived in a far-away place in China's Western/Central Sichuan
> province. Clean tea for export, I seriously doubt that would ever
> occur.
>
> There are NO organic standards in China that are credible. The best
> thing they have come up with so far is little stickers that read
> "organic" in Chinese and sometimes in English. It's meaningless.
>
> There WILL NEVER be organic in China. As long as things are the way
> they are here, you will always find people that can BUY their products
> into the "organic" category. Maybe it's time to start looking into
> Japanese teas more than Chinese teas.

According to my experience living in China, there are some Organic
teas here...

1. The teas people get from factories are hard to say, because as
Maurice mentioned before, the factory usually get teas from tea-
farmers, and in this situation, the pesticides are often used;
otherwise the tealeaves would be full of holes from bugs.

2. The tea farmers never drink teas that have used pesticides, it's
totally organic. Because this tea is not for sale.

Well, until now, there are so many brands in market say that their
teas are organic, but usually, who knows?...

Mydnight > wrote:
>
>There are NO organic standards in China that are credible. The best
>thing they have come up with so far is little stickers that read
>"organic" in Chinese and sometimes in English. It's meaningless.

I have some tea which is labelled "MADE FROM PLANTS WITHOUT ANTISEPTIC."

>There WILL NEVER be organic in China. As long as things are the way
>they are here, you will always find people that can BUY their products
>into the "organic" category. Maybe it's time to start looking into
>Japanese teas more than Chinese teas.

I regret to say that FCC interference certifications in the US are no
better.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Couple months ago i requested teaandcoffee.net do a subject on
contamination of tea.
They said it'll take about 1 year to do it.
Maybe if some more from this group ask for it they may take more
interest in the article.

I recently noticed a box of tea at Wal*Mart...Uncle...something. It states that pesticides were not used.

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message ...
| Mydnight > wrote:
| >
| >There are NO organic standards in China that are credible. The best
| >thing they have come up with so far is little stickers that read
| >"organic" in Chinese and sometimes in English. It's meaningless.
|
| I have some tea which is labelled "MADE FROM PLANTS WITHOUT ANTISEPTIC."
|
| >There WILL NEVER be organic in China. As long as things are the way
| >they are here, you will always find people that can BUY their products
| >into the "organic" category. Maybe it's time to start looking into
| >Japanese teas more than Chinese teas.
|
| I regret to say that FCC interference certifications in the US are no
| better.
| --scott
| --
| "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."