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Thanks for all the helpful responses to my previous question. My
attempt to grow a starter form scratch continues, but I don't seem to be getting anywhere so wanted to throw myself at the mercy of your collective experience once again. As a reminder, I'm using this method: 1. Start with 50g flour and 50g water 2. After 24 hours add another 50g each of flour and water 3. After 24 hours throw half away and add another 50g each of flour and water 4. Repeat 3 until the starter is ready This has been repeated for nearly 2 weeks now. The starter appears lifeless, and doesn't seem to be rising at all between feedings. Every evening when I go to feed it there is a layer of hooch on top which I stir back in. In many ways it resembles the "barely living" definition in the Starter Doctor FAQ, except without the gelatinous feel - it actually has a smooth pancake batter consistency. As a reminder, here's what that definition says: C. Barely Living: Visible bubbles exist, but the starter has no frothy layer of bubbles on the surface of the starter. Also, bubbles beneath the surface are not plentiful. It's likely that a layer of hooch, a benign greyish or yellowish, mostly clear, layer of water and alcohol, formed on top of the starter even though it was not proofed for more than 12 hours. Stirring the starter with a wooden spoon, then drawing the spoon out of the starter and examining the starter clinging to the back of the spoon shows only a few bubbles in the starter. Note that one of the key symptoms of starter in this stage is the layer of hooch which mysteriously appears "early," ( vibrant, fresh starter usually requires 24 to 48 hours of proofing before any hooch appears. Hooch appearing after being refrigerated is another story, so ignore refrigerator hooch for now. Other symptoms of this stage include slow rise times ( 3-6 or more hours to raise a bread recipe to double (if it ever does double). Second risings are quite often unsuccessful and the dough appears 'dead'. The dough may have a dead feel to it and tend to flatten out by itself while rising, even though you kneaded in enough flour and the gluten was well formed. The starter itself may also have a gelatinous feel to it, rather than maintaining a smoother, pancake-batter-like consistency. Starter in this stage has not stabilized the symbiotic relationship among the microorganisms present, i.e. the ratio of yeast and the various lactobacilli has not stabilized and the starter is not ready to use (except for pancakes). Has anyone come across this before? I'm wondering whether it's temperature related. I live in Scotland and although we have heating in our house it's not super-warm. Are my starter's symptoms consistent with a starter that isn't getting enough heat? Thanks in advance Simon |
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