This is about a non-NYT way to make bread in a pot,
good for people who do not have any Bongard oven:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ck.cray..co m

--
Dicky

P.S. David is no relation to me, so far as I know.

I couldn't get your referenced site address to work, Dicky.

Here is a photo of my first attempt at baking sourdough with the NYT
recipe:





I shouldn't have used a flash because the crumb can't really be seen
clearly in my photos.



Here are the photos of original NYT recipe with the 1/4 t of yeast:





I didn't try adding any whole wheat flour to either but my sourdough
starter had rye in it.
I wasn't happy with the texture or flavor of the one I made with the
sourdough; it was somewhat bland. In comparison, the regular NYT's
texture and taste is very good.

"Trix" > wrote in message ups.com...
>
> I couldn't get your referenced site address to work, Dicky.

Perhaps, in your world, you need the [IMG] ... [/IMG] gadgets
for making links work. Well, in my world, they make the links
impossible to click up.

>

Well, I could actually figure out what to do. Your bread looks
good. Do you have a Bongard oven, or what.

--
Dicky

"Do you have a Bongard oven, or what"

No, I don't. I have an 18 yr old Electric Dacor Oven. I used the Le
Creuset French (Dutch) Oven to bake both of these loaves. 30 mins with
the lid on and 15 to 18 mins without the lid.

I used the tinypic site which I found out about here, because it is and
easy way to upload pictures. I used the link it provided which now
includes the extra stuff. I am open to learning an easier method if
you have one to share.

On 18 Nov 2006 07:45:06 -0800, "Trix" > wrote:

>
>"Do you have a Bongard oven, or what"
>
>No, I don't. I have an 18 yr old Electric Dacor Oven. I used the Le
>Creuset French (Dutch) Oven to bake both of these loaves. 30 mins with
>the lid on and 15 to 18 mins without the lid.
>
>I used the tinypic site which I found out about here, because it is and
>easy way to upload pictures. I used the link it provided which now
>includes the extra stuff. I am open to learning an easier method if
>you have one to share.


When you copy the tinypic address, it is better to delete the front
and back IMG in brackets, so the page will open when someone clicks on
it. It makes it a easier than cutting and pasting, but trust me,
anyone can figure out what's up.

Tinypic is swell and an easy way to share photos. You're kind to share
yours with the group.

Boron

"Trix" > wrote in message oups.com...

> I used the tinypic site which I found out about here, because it is and
> easy way to upload pictures. I used the link it provided which now
> includes the extra stuff. I am open to learning an easier method if
> you have one to share.

I guess they assume that you are going to past it into a HTML
document. Usenet newsgroups prefer plain text, in which case
the <IMG> and </IMG> markers should be deleted.

I don't know why you could not click up the link I sent. Sometimes
long links get broken and need to be rejoined. Let's see if anyone
else reports trouble with that one.

"Trix" > wrote in message oups.com...

> I have an 18 yr old Electric Dacor Oven.

That's tough! Well, when you replace that old thing,
you can get a Bongard with steam.

--
Dicky
(50+ year old Kenwood here)

> When you copy the tinypic address, it is better to delete the front
> and back IMG in brackets, so the page will open when someone clicks on
> it. It makes it a easier than cutting and pasting, but trust me,
> anyone can figure out what's up.
>
Thanks, Boron, I'll remember that for next time. Tinypic used to only
have one choice and it worked fine without having to delete
anything...this link was specifically for usenet groups and forums...I
copied and pasted as was...next time I will delete the front and end
brackets before posting.

I am unfamiliar with the Bongard Ovens...are they pizza/bread baking
ovens with or without steam?...but I would guess they are out of our
price range anyway and we wouldn't have the space for one.

On 18 Nov 2006 09:13:44 -0800, "Trix" > wrote:

>
>> When you copy the tinypic address, it is better to delete the front
>> and back IMG in brackets, so the page will open when someone clicks on
>> it. It makes it a easier than cutting and pasting, but trust me,
>> anyone can figure out what's up.
>>
>Thanks, Boron, I'll remember that for next time. Tinypic used to only
>have one choice and it worked fine without having to delete
>anything...this link was specifically for usenet groups and forums...I
>copied and pasted as was...next time I will delete the front and end
>brackets before posting.
>
>I am unfamiliar with the Bongard Ovens...are they pizza/bread baking
>ovens with or without steam?...but I would guess they are out of our
>price range anyway and we wouldn't have the space for one.


Bongard is a French company known for its professional ovens. Kenneth
has a Bongard model in his kitchen, and if memory serves, is quite
pleased with it.

http://www.bongard.fr/siteanglais/index.htm

Boron

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message ...

> Kenneth has a Bongard model in his kitchen, and if memory
> serves, is quite pleased with it.

Except, as I recall, that his wife will not allow him to use the
steam on account of it making rain clouds in the kitchen.

--
Dicky

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...

> Kenneth has a Bongard model in his kitchen, and if memory
> serves, is quite pleased with it.

Except, as I recall, that his wife will not allow him to use the
steam on account of it making rain clouds in the kitchen.

That's a big kitchen!

Mary

--
Dicky

Trix looks great too!!! :-)

>

>I wasn't happy with the texture or flavor of the one I made with the
>sourdough; it was somewhat bland. In comparison, the regular NYT's
>texture and taste is very good.