In article >, says...
> Please help me I have a chiminea, maybe a long shot but I thought
> someone here might know how and a recipe.
>
> pleas help Dave
>
>

Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?

Bill

In article >, says...
> Please help me I have a chiminea, maybe a long shot but I thought
> someone here might know how and a recipe.
>
> pleas help Dave
>
>

Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?

Bill

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
says...
> > Please help me I have a chiminea, maybe a long shot but I thought
> > someone here might know how and a recipe.
> >
> > pleas help Dave
> >
> >
>
> Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?
>
> Bill

Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people about
making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making bread
with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.

Just go to the library and check out a cookbook. Any good general cookbook
will have a decent recipe for a standard white bread. Or if you're lazy and
like to use the world's biggest resource, google for a bread recipe.

If you want a recipe to make 6 loaves at a time by hand let me know, I'll
give you mine.

As to cooking it in a chiminea, you're on your own there. You might find
something if you google for it.

Kathy

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
says...
> > Please help me I have a chiminea, maybe a long shot but I thought
> > someone here might know how and a recipe.
> >
> > pleas help Dave
> >
> >
>
> Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?
>
> Bill

Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people about
making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making bread
with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.

Just go to the library and check out a cookbook. Any good general cookbook
will have a decent recipe for a standard white bread. Or if you're lazy and
like to use the world's biggest resource, google for a bread recipe.

If you want a recipe to make 6 loaves at a time by hand let me know, I'll
give you mine.

As to cooking it in a chiminea, you're on your own there. You might find
something if you google for it.

Kathy

In article >, says...
>
> "Bill" > wrote in message
> ...
>
<snip>
> > Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?
> >
> > Bill
>
> Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people about
> making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making bread
> with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.

Aw, you're no fun.

>
> Just go to the library and check out a cookbook. Any good general cookbook
> will have a decent recipe for a standard white bread. Or if you're lazy and
> like to use the world's biggest resource, google for a bread recipe.
>
> If you want a recipe to make 6 loaves at a time by hand let me know, I'll
> give you mine.
>
> As to cooking it in a chiminea, you're on your own there. You might find
> something if you google for it.

I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)

>
> Kathy
>
>

Bill

In article >, says...
>
> "Bill" > wrote in message
> ...
>
<snip>
> > Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?
> >
> > Bill
>
> Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people about
> making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making bread
> with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.

Aw, you're no fun.

>
> Just go to the library and check out a cookbook. Any good general cookbook
> will have a decent recipe for a standard white bread. Or if you're lazy and
> like to use the world's biggest resource, google for a bread recipe.
>
> If you want a recipe to make 6 loaves at a time by hand let me know, I'll
> give you mine.
>
> As to cooking it in a chiminea, you're on your own there. You might find
> something if you google for it.

I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)

>
> Kathy
>
>

Bill

K. Reece wrote:

> Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people about
> making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making bread
> with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.

Someone from this group calling another group anal? Now, that's funny!
You want to see anal, just watch some poor sod show up and say
something about how he can barbecue some great hamburgers on his propane
barbecue and watch the wolves come out! :-)

K. Reece wrote:

> Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people about
> making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making bread
> with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.

Someone from this group calling another group anal? Now, that's funny!
You want to see anal, just watch some poor sod show up and say
something about how he can barbecue some great hamburgers on his propane
barbecue and watch the wolves come out! :-)

K. Reece wrote:
>
>
> <cackle> They discuss hydration levels of bread dough into minutia!!! For
> someone that's made bread by hand with minimal measurements it's enough to
> drive you over the edge!!! They weigh the flour fer crying out loud!! I
> just couldn't take it anymore.
>
> The discussions on this group are a whole different ball of wax and don't
> even begin to qualify as anal.
>

While I don't have the skill, my mother has been making _+GREAT+_ bread,
without a recipe, for over 60 years. Arthritis is just beginning to slow
her down. However, she has never been successful doing sourdough and she
is jealous of what I can do with a bread machine and my sourdough starter.

Matthew (beating Mom at cooking makes a guy feel proud!)

--
Thermodynamics for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

K. Reece wrote:
>
>
> <cackle> They discuss hydration levels of bread dough into minutia!!! For
> someone that's made bread by hand with minimal measurements it's enough to
> drive you over the edge!!! They weigh the flour fer crying out loud!! I
> just couldn't take it anymore.
>
> The discussions on this group are a whole different ball of wax and don't
> even begin to qualify as anal.
>

While I don't have the skill, my mother has been making _+GREAT+_ bread,
without a recipe, for over 60 years. Arthritis is just beginning to slow
her down. However, she has never been successful doing sourdough and she
is jealous of what I can do with a bread machine and my sourdough starter.

Matthew (beating Mom at cooking makes a guy feel proud!)

--
Thermodynamics for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game

"Dan Overes" > wrote in message
...
> K. Reece wrote:
>
> > Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people
about
> > making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> > precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making
bread
> > with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.
>
> Someone from this group calling another group anal? Now, that's funny!
> You want to see anal, just watch some poor sod show up and say
> something about how he can barbecue some great hamburgers on his propane
> barbecue and watch the wolves come out! :-)

<cackle> They discuss hydration levels of bread dough into minutia!!! For
someone that's made bread by hand with minimal measurements it's enough to
drive you over the edge!!! They weigh the flour fer crying out loud!! I
just couldn't take it anymore.

The discussions on this group are a whole different ball of wax and don't
even begin to qualify as anal.

Kathy

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
> >
> > "Bill" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> <snip>
> > > Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people
about
> > making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> > precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making
bread
> > with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.
>
> Aw, you're no fun.

<cackle> Yer jes mean!!!

>
> >
> > Just go to the library and check out a cookbook. Any good general
cookbook
> > will have a decent recipe for a standard white bread. Or if you're lazy
and
> > like to use the world's biggest resource, google for a bread recipe.
> >
> > If you want a recipe to make 6 loaves at a time by hand let me know,
I'll
> > give you mine.
> >
> > As to cooking it in a chiminea, you're on your own there. You might
find
> > something if you google for it.
>
> I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)

They might, but I'm sure they'll insist it can't be done without precisely
weighing the chiminea and each and every piece of fuel and you'll probably
have to have exact latitude and longitude coordinates and know the precise
temperature and humidity levels for every foot of height of the chiminea.
<cackle>

Kathy

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
> >
> > "Bill" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> <snip>
> > > Have you tried alt.bread.recipes ?
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people
about
> > making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> > precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making
bread
> > with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.
>
> Aw, you're no fun.

<cackle> Yer jes mean!!!

>
> >
> > Just go to the library and check out a cookbook. Any good general
cookbook
> > will have a decent recipe for a standard white bread. Or if you're lazy
and
> > like to use the world's biggest resource, google for a bread recipe.
> >
> > If you want a recipe to make 6 loaves at a time by hand let me know,
I'll
> > give you mine.
> >
> > As to cooking it in a chiminea, you're on your own there. You might
find
> > something if you google for it.
>
> I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)

They might, but I'm sure they'll insist it can't be done without precisely
weighing the chiminea and each and every piece of fuel and you'll probably
have to have exact latitude and longitude coordinates and know the precise
temperature and humidity levels for every foot of height of the chiminea.
<cackle>

Kathy

I don't know how you cook in one of those, but there is great artisan bread
making info at www.theartisan.net.


--
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----
Louis Cohen
Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8"


"drm090163" > wrote in message
...
> Please help me I have a chiminea, maybe a long shot but I thought
> someone here might know how and a recipe.
>
> pleas help Dave
>

In article >, says...
>
> "Bill" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
<snip>
> >
> > I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)
>
> They might, but I'm sure they'll insist it can't be done without precisely
> weighing the chiminea and each and every piece of fuel and you'll probably
> have to have exact latitude and longitude coordinates and know the precise
> temperature and humidity levels for every foot of height of the chiminea.
> <cackle>
>
> Kathy
>

You forgot to include altitude|atmospheric pressure compensation in
millibars and counter skewing for topic drift. <snert>

Bill

In article >, says...
>
> "Dan Overes" > wrote in message
> ...
> > K. Reece wrote:
> >
> > > Oh gawd don't send him there!! They're the most anal bunch of people
> about
> > > making bread there is. As far as they're concerned you have to have
> > > precision scales to make bread, nevermind that people have been making
> bread
> > > with the barest hint of a recipe for several thousand years now.
> >
> > Someone from this group calling another group anal? Now, that's funny!
> > You want to see anal, just watch some poor sod show up and say
> > something about how he can barbecue some great hamburgers on his propane
> > barbecue and watch the wolves come out! :-)
>
> <cackle> They discuss hydration levels of bread dough into minutia!!! For
> someone that's made bread by hand with minimal measurements it's enough to
> drive you over the edge!!! They weigh the flour fer crying out loud!! I
> just couldn't take it anymore.
>
> The discussions on this group are a whole different ball of wax and don't
> even begin to qualify as anal.
>
> Kathy
>
>

Between Boston Butt, butt steak, and buttinskis I guess this group could
qualify for certain level of analness from time to time.

Bill

I bake breade quite often only roughly with any recipe. In summer I bake it
off in an adobe mud oven I built last summer and in the winter I use my hooded
gas grill unless I want the warmth and aroma in the house. In the adobe I
build the big fire, let it burn down to coals, rake the coals out, put the
bread, pizza, whatever in and plug the door area. I would guess you could lo
the same thing only close off the chimminey when you block the door. If you
did not get all the coals out I would think that as long as the bread was not
sitting directly on the colas you would be OK. Heck give it a try. Internal
temp of bread at about 190 F is perfect. Finish off in oven or gas grill if
itdoesn't get quite done. Hope this was helpful

Bill wrote:
> Between Boston Butt, butt steak, and buttinskis I guess this group
> could qualify for certain level of analness from time to time.
>

Nah, that's tripe. We just appreciate a nice piece of ass is all.


D
--

Bill wrote:
> Between Boston Butt, butt steak, and buttinskis I guess this group
> could qualify for certain level of analness from time to time.
>

Nah, that's tripe. We just appreciate a nice piece of ass is all.


D
--

"K. Reece" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> > I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)
>
> They might, but I'm sure they'll insist it can't be done without precisely
> weighing the chiminea and each and every piece of fuel and you'll probably
> have to have exact latitude and longitude coordinates and know the precise
> temperature and humidity levels for every foot of height of the chiminea.
> <cackle>
>
> Kathy

You're right Kathy. I though the people on rec.food.cooking were anal. They're
amateurs!


Tyler

"K. Reece" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> > I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)
>
> They might, but I'm sure they'll insist it can't be done without precisely
> weighing the chiminea and each and every piece of fuel and you'll probably
> have to have exact latitude and longitude coordinates and know the precise
> temperature and humidity levels for every foot of height of the chiminea.
> <cackle>
>
> Kathy

You're right Kathy. I though the people on rec.food.cooking were anal. They're
amateurs!


Tyler

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
> >
> > "Bill" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> <snip>
> > >
> > > I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)
> >
> > They might, but I'm sure they'll insist it can't be done without
precisely
> > weighing the chiminea and each and every piece of fuel and you'll
probably
> > have to have exact latitude and longitude coordinates and know the
precise
> > temperature and humidity levels for every foot of height of the
chiminea.
> > <cackle>
> >
> > Kathy
> >
>
> You forgot to include altitude|atmospheric pressure compensation in
> millibars and counter skewing for topic drift. <snert>
>
> Bill

See!! I knew I was forgetting something. <cackle>

Kathy

"Tyler Hopper" > wrote in message
...
>
> "K. Reece" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > > I thought a.b.r. would have much to say on the chiminea part. ];^)
> >
> > They might, but I'm sure they'll insist it can't be done without
precisely
> > weighing the chiminea and each and every piece of fuel and you'll
probably
> > have to have exact latitude and longitude coordinates and know the
precise
> > temperature and humidity levels for every foot of height of the
chiminea.
> > <cackle>
> >
> > Kathy
>
> You're right Kathy. I though the people on rec.food.cooking were anal.
They're
> amateurs!
>
>
> Tyler
>
>

I had to quit reading the bread group. I made 6 loaves of bread a week by
hand for several years. I measured the water, honey and yeast. The rest I
just dumped in until it was bread. I made a variety of breads too. I put
stuff like raw sunflower seeds and wheat sprouts in my bread. I also made
potato bread and oatmeal bread on a regular basis. I always just dumped
some in the bowl till I figgered it was enough!

Honestly bread isn't hard to make at all and not nearly the precise science
those people make it out to be.

Kathy

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
> The discussions on this group are a whole different ball of wax and don't
> > even begin to qualify as anal.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
>
> Between Boston Butt, butt steak, and buttinskis I guess this group could
> qualify for certain level of analness from time to time.
>
> Bill

<cackle> Okay, those discussions could qualify for a certain level of
analness.

Kathy

"Matthew L. Martin" > wrote in message
...
> While I don't have the skill, my mother has been making _+GREAT+_ bread,
> without a recipe, for over 60 years. Arthritis is just beginning to slow
> her down. However, she has never been successful doing sourdough and she
> is jealous of what I can do with a bread machine and my sourdough starter.
>
> Matthew (beating Mom at cooking makes a guy feel proud!)

It doesn't take all that much skill to make bread, mostly it takes a little
practice just like good Q takes practice. (ha! back on topic)

I never made sourdough. I did make raw sunflower seed, wheat sprout,
cracked wheat, potato and oatmeal breads though. No, I don't have a recipe
for those. You just start with the regular bread and add whatever until
it's enough.

Kathy (I'll bet your mom is very proud of you)

In article >, says...
>
> "Bill" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, says...
> > The discussions on this group are a whole different ball of wax and don't
> > > even begin to qualify as anal.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Between Boston Butt, butt steak, and buttinskis I guess this group could
> > qualify for certain level of analness from time to time.
> >
> > Bill
>
> <cackle> Okay, those discussions could qualify for a certain level of
> analness.
>
> Kathy
>

First time I heard of butt steak was at a company dinner at a hoighty-
toighty restaraunt < h-t where you have to wear a tie to get in > in Chicago
years ago. I asked the waiter if a butt steak was a small round steak with a hole
in the middle and got a rather chilly no. Guess he had no sense of humor.

Bill < who will wear a tie if your buying the dinner >