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My understanding has always been that no matter where the culutre came from,
within a couple of months, your local microflora will take over in your starter. If that's true, then that would explain why your cultures change their flavor characteristics. Is this true? Or am I repeating a sourdough urban legend here? Sure seems true. My starter has always had a very, very mild flavor unless I work the Dickens out of it by keeping it stiff and doing two long, slow bulk rises before the final proof. However, when I gave some to a friend of mine who lives just 6 miles away (though it's not near the river, like me, but is instead at a higher elevation near a wetland), within three months, she had super tangy bread. And I know she's not doing anything differently from me. I taught her how to make bread, myself. -- Jeff Miller |
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Jeff Miller wrote:
> My understanding has always been that no matter where the culutre came from, > within a couple of months, your local microflora will take over in your > starter. If that's true, then that would explain why your cultures change > their flavor characteristics. > > Is this true? Or am I repeating a sourdough urban legend here? The bread I have been baking for a couple of years with two different starts (or are they the same?) tends to be on a range of mild to sour to really sour. When it's the middle sour it tastes like the california sourdough I finally got to try a month ago. But my start has never been to california, I can assure you, and the climates in the three different places I've lived during that time (and the supposed origin of the old start) are quite different from california (and eachother) as well. In my experience technique and flour make more of a difference. I'm waiting for a fresh start from Brian Mailman which I will carefully keep isolated, at least long enough to see if it has a different taste than mine. |
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Jeff Miller wrote:
> > Is this true? Or am I repeating a sourdough urban legend here? > I asked Ticker and she said that cultures that tend to remain stable , tend to remain stable. From my experience, stable strains of sourdough culture can remain stable in different geographic locations for years - at least. That said, I have observed the same culture behave differently with different environmental and care conditions. The culture that lives mainly in the refrigerator during the hot months and brought out for use infrequently behaves differently than the same strain that lives on the counter and is fed several times a day during the cold weather baking season. In other words, a culture can be stable in different states. There is some biological inertia because changing the environment and care routine (within limits) does not cause an immediate change in observed behavior. Regards, Charles |
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