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HELLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!!
I live in the UK (it get's worse...) I am feeding 6 hungry guys on Tuesday night and I have promised them Tamales. There is 1 (one...count 'em!) supermarket in the area which stocked masa harina up until the last time I shopped there, when I bought (and used) their last packets. I have a mail order supplier, but there's no way they can get it to me in time....can you see how much trouble I'm in??? I have half a pound of the stuff left and what I was wondering is, can I mix the masa harina with fine yellow cornmeal and get an acceptable result? Has anyone ever tried this? I am reluctant to experiment on my own as don't want to waste the real nice batch of shredded pork I just cooked up for a filling!!! Any help appreciated!!! -- Gareth Rowan www.toocountry.co.uk { o}===:::/TOO COUNTRY\:::==={o } |
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![]() Gareth Evans wrote: > HELLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!! > I live in the UK (it get's worse...) I am feeding 6 hungry guys on Tuesday > night and I have promised them Tamales. There is 1 (one...count 'em!) > supermarket in the area which stocked masa harina up until the last time I > shopped there, when I bought (and used) their last packets. I have a mail > order supplier, but there's no way they can get it to me in time....can you > see how much trouble I'm in??? > I have half a pound of the stuff left and what I was wondering is, can I mix > the masa harina with fine yellow cornmeal and get an acceptable result? > Has anyone ever tried this? > I am reluctant to experiment on my own as don't want to waste the real nice > batch of shredded pork I just cooked up for a filling!!! > > Any help appreciated!!! Here's a link to a tamale page included in my collection of food related web pages... http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/tamales.html I don't usually add cornmeal to my masa for tamales, but have on occasion. I've included two recipes that use a combination of masa harina and cornmeal at one-half cup cornmeal to one plus one-quarter cups masa harina. Also included in the dough is pureed whole kernel corn. You could probably leave that out if you choose, provided you compensate for the extra moisture the pureed corn provides. The filling is vegetarian, but I see no reason a shredded pork filling couldn't be used. Hopefully, you'll receive some more input from others on the list to allow you to choose what looks like it will work best for you. Rich |
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Thanks Rich, you've given me hope!!!
People in the UK really don't know about tamales...I "discovered" them on a trip to Austin and I've been hooked ever since. Supplies of corn husks and Masa can be erratic though. I'm growing my own jalapenos this your in the hope of smoking them into Chipotles so I'm hoping for a warm summer! Cheers, -- Gareth Rowan www.toocountry.co.uk { o}===:::/TOO COUNTRY\:::==={o } "Rich McCormack" > wrote in message om... > > Gareth Evans wrote: > > HELLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!! > > I live in the UK (it get's worse...) I am feeding 6 hungry guys on Tuesday > > night and I have promised them Tamales. There is 1 (one...count 'em!) > > supermarket in the area which stocked masa harina up until the last time I > > shopped there, when I bought (and used) their last packets. I have a > > order supplier, but there's no way they can get it to me in time....can you > > see how much trouble I'm in??? > > I have half a pound of the stuff left and what I was wondering is, can I mix > > the masa harina with fine yellow cornmeal and get an acceptable result? > > Has anyone ever tried this? > > I am reluctant to experiment on my own as don't want to waste the real nice > > batch of shredded pork I just cooked up for a filling!!! > > > > Any help appreciated!!! > > Here's a link to a tamale page included in my collection of food > related web pages... > > http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/tamales.html > > I don't usually add cornmeal to my masa for tamales, but have on > occasion. I've included two recipes that use a combination of masa > harina and cornmeal at one-half cup cornmeal to one plus one-quarter > cups masa harina. Also included in the dough is pureed whole kernel > corn. You could probably leave that out if you choose, provided you > compensate for the extra moisture the pureed corn provides. The > filling is vegetarian, but I see no reason a shredded pork filling > couldn't be used. > > Hopefully, you'll receive some more input from others on the list to > allow you to choose what looks like it will work best for you. > > Rich > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Ignore the fact that this is a vegetarian recipe. I just needed to get you the
basic recipe for making cornbread tamales. In the South, as African Americans started selling hot tamales in the 20's and 30's, and didn't have access to traditional masa, cornbread started to be substituted. These are actually quite good. Vegetarian Tamales Makes 18 tamales Ingredients: For the Cornbread 2 cups yellow cornmeal 2/3 cup flour 4 teaspoons baking powder 1 teaspoon salt 1 1/3 cup of milk 2 eggs beaten 3 tablespoons vegetable oil 1 teaspoon sugar 1/2 teaspoon black pepper 1 pickled jalapeno, chopped, or fresh jalapeno Plus, 1 teaspoon of salt, 1/2 teaspoon of black pepper, and two chopped jalapenos to prepared masa Or, two packets cornbread mix prepared per package instructions To yield: 6 cups of finely crumbled cornbread, processed in a food processor For the Filling: Fantastic brand soy taco filling (4.4 ounce package) prepared per package instructions, or your favorite brand, to make 2 cups of filling Instructions for the Cornbread Masa: Preheat the oven to 400 F. Grease a 9" x 13" cake pan. Combine the dry ingredients in a bowl. Add the milk, eggs, and oil and stir, mixing thoroughly. Pour into the prepared pan and bake 20 to 25 minutes or until golden brown. Remove and allow to cool. Crumble the cornbread mixture and add to a food processor. Process for 30 seconds, pulsing or processing as needed. The consistency will be that of cornmeal. Put the processed cornbread in a mixing bowl and add 1/2 to 1 cup of water (start with 1/2 and add more as needed), 1 teaspoon of salt,1/2 teaspoon black pepper, and two chopped jalapenos. Mix with your fingers until a cornmeal masa is formed. The masa should be moldable, so that you can shape it around the filling but not mushy. The masa will reduce down to 4 cups. Prepare the tamales by spreading 2 tablespoons of prepared masa on a 5" x 5" piece of waxed paper or parchment paper. Fill with 1 tablespoon of prepared filling mixture and roll. Steam in a tamale steamer or other pot designed for steaming, for one hour. |
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I guess these must be the hot tamales Robert Johnson was talking
about...they look delicious! Cornbread is another thing we don't really have in the UK, but I'm honing my skills and converting people gradually! Thanks for the recipe - this is a cool newsgroup! "Jay P Francis" > wrote in message ... > Ignore the fact that this is a vegetarian recipe. I just needed to get you the > basic recipe for making cornbread tamales. In the South, as African Americans > started selling hot tamales in the 20's and 30's, and didn't have access to > traditional masa, cornbread started to be substituted. These are actually > quite good. > > Vegetarian Tamales > > Makes 18 tamales > > Ingredients: > > For the Cornbread > 2 cups yellow cornmeal > 2/3 cup flour > 4 teaspoons baking powder > 1 teaspoon salt > 1 1/3 cup of milk > 2 eggs beaten > 3 tablespoons vegetable oil > 1 teaspoon sugar > 1/2 teaspoon black pepper > 1 pickled jalapeno, chopped, or fresh jalapeno > > Plus, 1 teaspoon of salt, 1/2 teaspoon of black pepper, and two chopped > jalapenos to prepared masa > > Or, two packets cornbread mix prepared per package instructions > > To yield: 6 cups of finely crumbled cornbread, processed in a food processor > > For the Filling: > > Fantastic brand soy taco filling (4.4 ounce package) prepared per package > instructions, or your favorite brand, to make 2 cups of filling > > > Instructions for the Cornbread Masa: > > Preheat the oven to 400 F. Grease a 9" x 13" cake pan. Combine the dry > ingredients in a bowl. Add the milk, eggs, and oil and stir, mixing thoroughly. > Pour into the prepared pan and bake 20 to 25 minutes or until golden brown. > > Remove and allow to cool. > > Crumble the cornbread mixture and add to a food processor. Process for 30 > seconds, pulsing or processing as needed. The consistency will be that of > cornmeal. > > Put the processed cornbread in a mixing bowl and add 1/2 to 1 cup of water > (start with 1/2 and add more as needed), 1 teaspoon of salt,1/2 teaspoon black > pepper, and two chopped jalapenos. Mix with your fingers until a cornmeal masa > is formed. The masa should be moldable, so that you can shape it around the > filling but not mushy. The masa will reduce down to 4 cups. > > Prepare the tamales by spreading 2 tablespoons of prepared masa on a 5" x 5" > piece of waxed paper or parchment paper. Fill with 1 tablespoon of prepared > filling mixture and roll. > > Steam in a tamale steamer or other pot designed for steaming, for one hour. > |
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Exactly right. When Robet Johnson was talking about hot tamales, he was very
aware of the street vendors. Tamales were a product that one could make in small batches for minimum investment and as your business grew, you could make more. He recorded in San Antonio so he would have known the tamales of the Mexicano vendors. But in other songs from the deep South, the tamales referred to were probably cornmeal mush tamales. I actually like them and they don't have as high a fat content. But stick with a traditional pork filling. |
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